Iron Fist Iron Fist General Discussion Thread - Part 1

[Gamma Goliath]

Its not my gripe, I'm fine with him remaining a white guy.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I would love them to bring in Shang Chi as I imagine his style and feel to be very different from Fist's. One of my favorite martial arts flicks is The Quest with JCVD. I like watching all those wildly different styles interact and I hope to see some of that in IF.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Two Asian kung fu superheroes is 100% certain to piss off a lot of non-Asians on behalf of Asians everywhere.

 

[Webhead2006]

I don't see the need to change fist race. If there any change we likely see a mixed race actor like white and hispanic. More so who's to say we won't see characters like misty or Shang chi appear in rand show.

 

[Silvermoth]

I'm late to the party. Are people actually pushing for this?? Why?

Because iron fist is based hugely around Chinese culture and mythology so it's a bit weird to have a white guy be the star of that. Plus the idea that he is the champion of that culture is a bit icky.

Anyway, those ideas and more in the 'why can't iron fist be asian' thread.

I wonder if they'll get the show runners from the legend of korra to do this? Those guys get mythology and martial arts and they're amazing story tellers

 

[Webhead2006]

But him being Chinese isn't what his character is about. Someone was talking about it before rand is an outsider to the culture and what not and that is what hr is about.

 

[McSir]

Also, at least currently, Iron Fist is a title. So it's not a white guy saving an entire culture, its one person in a line of many. Our main character just happens to be one of the caucasian Iron Fists.

 

[Webhead2006]

For me on whole race bending debate. I don't have a issue if change is made for good reason. But if it's just bs political correctness stuff that isn't a good reason.

Also if you want an ethnic character. Bring in more ethnic characters who are in the comics. Who yet to be used. And bring higher profile to them. Or add a new original character ala phil coulson for example to drum up that quota.

 

[Silvermoth]

But him being Chinese isn't what his character is about. Someone was talking about it before rand is an outsider to the culture and what not and that is what hr is about.

Also, at least currently, Iron Fist is a title. So it's not a white guy saving an entire culture, its one person in a line of many. Our main character just happens to be one of the caucasian Iron Fists.

For me on whole race bending debate. I don't have a issue if change is made for good reason. But if it's just bs political correctness stuff that isn't a good reason.

Also if you want an ethnic character. Bring in more ethnic characters who are in the comics. Who yet to be used. And bring higher profile to them. Or add a new original character ala phil coulson for example to drum up that quota.

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[metaphysician]

Talking about shang chi, he is a better fighter than danny isn't?

Eh. Its tough to judge, given they both have chi-empowered martial arts where the boundary between "skills" and "super powers" is non-existent.

I'm inclined to say that Shang-Chi is more talented than Danny, because he achieved greater baseline super kung fu than Danny, with much less prestigious training ( ie, nothing even approaching Kun Lun ). It just isn't really relevant much, because Danny has the Iron Fist dragon chi superpowers on top of his own mystic kung fu. Think of it kind of like Black Widow vs Captain America: Natasha is a more skilled, more highly trained martial artist, but Steve more than makes up for it because he has the SSS.

 

[metaphysician]

Also, its useful to note that Shang Chi and Iron Fist have completely different themes and styles. Shang Chi is "Kung Fu James Bond fights Fu Manchu". Iron Fist is "Modern Day High Fantasy Wuxia".

 

[3dman27]

Also, its useful to note that Shang Chi and Iron Fist have completely different themes and styles. Shang Chi is "Kung Fu James Bond fights Fu Manchu". Iron Fist is "Modern Day High Fantasy Wuxia".

you have s valid point metaphysican

 

[ernesth100]

I'm wondering how power IF's fist will b portrayed. Could it be a one shot thing from the beginning? Or start out weak but grow stronger as the series goes on?

 

[chamber-music]

I think it will be a chi charged up glowing fist which is only uses every now and again as it takes a lot out of him.

 

[ernesth100]

I think it will be a chi charged up glowing fist which is only uses every now and again as it takes a lot out of him.

Very likely and I would like that.

 

[3dman27]

I think it will be a chi charged up glowing fist which is only uses every now and again as it takes a lot out of him.

that is correct

 

[pixen]

I'd look for season 2 of Daredevil to be on Netflix the Friday after Easter (just like last year), Luke Cage to come out in June or July and Iron Fist to drop the Friday befor Thanksgiving in 2016.

I see Luke Cage being the first to series to premiere over the summer... Depending only on whether or not they are doing another season of Daredevil before Defenders. This could be like the first phase of the MCU movies, where Iron Man was the only one to get a second film before the big group film.

 

[yllum]

I think it will be a chi charged up glowing fist which is only uses every now and again as it takes a lot out of him.

That would make alot of sense. .if danny can be charged up all the time..then he is no longer" street level " imho.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Also, its useful to note that Shang Chi and Iron Fist have completely different themes and styles. Shang Chi is "Kung Fu James Bond fights Fu Manchu". Iron Fist is "Modern Day High Fantasy Wuxia".

you have s valid point metaphysican

I would love them to bring in Shang Chi as I imagine his style and feel to be very different from Fist's.

 

[ernesth100]

I wonder if the can CGI render Kun Lun. I wonder if they can CGI render the dragon Danny had to fight? It'd likely look hella crappy on a Netflix budget.

 

[Mike Murdock]

My hope is they've already started rendering him. Time and manpower is usually the biggest difference between movies and TV shows.

 

[Webhead2006]

I doubt the budget and cg look bad. Look what we have seen on carter and shield and what not I am sure they do the acient city well enough.

 

[McSir]

Would using an animatronic dragon be less expensive?

 

[Mike Murdock]

I doubt the budget and cg look bad. Look what we have seen on carter and shield and what not I am sure they do the acient city well enough.

Agents of SHIELD looks like television budget CGI. I don't recall any significant Agent Carter CGI (although the best CGI is CGI you don't notice, I'm referring to things that clearly wouldn't have been created as live props). Do they want Netflix to have a dragon that looks like it could be on Flash (which is impressive for television, but is still just television)?

ETA: Flash might be unfair. If we're lucky they could pull of Game of Thrones. Can anyone think of a recent live-action movie with a dragon in it? The last I can think of is Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire and that was ten years ago.

Would using an animatronic dragon be less expensive?

Almost certainly not. At least, it wouldn't look better and they'd have less flexibility.

 

[Webhead2006]

Carter and shield has had plently of very good looking cg shots in them. And we don't even know how kun lun be used in the show. I am sure they can do thing with sets and then cg to enhance things.