Is America a christian nation?

[chamber-music]

negativo, it doesn't stop people from pursuing acts that are anti-christian like homosexuality like perhaps other religious run nations such as saudi arabia where it is still outlawed because it is against islamic religious beliefs.

so.....in short....you're incorrect.

your getting mixed up between the state and religous beliefs. Homosexuality, abortion and so are not necessarily anti christian. There are lots of denominations of christanity Catholic, Anglican, Evergelical, baptist, mormon and so on.

 

[Man-Thing]

I don't think it's a Christian nation, and I don't think the founding fathers intended it to be.

Allthough many of them were Christians, they felt according to the declaration of independence that this country should be a place where all men could do things to bring them happiness as long as it didn't harm anyone else.

 

[PemLam]

After you've been married for 5 or 10 years, having sex with your wife is dumb, because you already know what she's going to do and you already know what she likes.

Seriously, we've had sex 40,000 times, do we really NEED to have it again?

Point made...but what I said isn't innaccurate, you're one of the people that enjoys going back and forth on the religious threads if only to point out the flaws in other people's knowledge...not necessarily just to attack people.

Oh, I've been married 15 years and still nowhere near that level!

 

[jaguarr]

Dammit! Where is Jourmgand!? This thread was custom-made for him to bash America in an appropriate manner, rather than completely out of context and having nothing to do with the topic at hand like he usually does. Never mind...I just answered my own questions.

jag

 

[Mr Sparkle]

People's feelings towards their particular team don't change that often.

hence my point.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Point made...but what I said isn't innaccurate

Where you are right is that the struggle flares up in too many threads.....where you are talking about the bombing of Hiroshima and suddenly everyone is quoting scripture to see if Jesus was a pacifist or a bad-ass baby-killer.

That is why it was soOO foolish of them to close the CHRISTIANITY thread.
It WILL NOT GO AWAY, nor SHOULD it, so better to have one place for it....so if someone strays into Bible interpretation and quoting and doctrinal debates, you can just say, "Take it to the Christianity thread."

I have no idea what they were thinking, WANTING it to metastasize all over the place when you could have one organized place for it.

 

[November Rain]

your getting mixed up between the state and religous beliefs. Homosexuality, abortion and so are not necessarily anti christian. There are lots of denominations of christanity Catholic, Anglican, Evergelical, baptist, mormon and so on.

I get the impression from the title of the thread that if a country is a religious based country then its state is not only based on a religion but is still highly governed by those religious texts even if say permitting practices of other religions within it.

If a state promotes practices that are not in following with the religious views of the country then i don't feel that it is a 'religious nation'

I may be wrong about this but it's just the way i intepreted the question and i feel my viewpoint is legit.

If a nation promotes homosexual marriage or abortion or work on a sunday then perhaps it is not a core christian nation, rather one that has been born from once being so.

 

[Mr Jide]

I'll give it 30 minutes before moviefan, memphis, 7000+, Sparkle, or Wilhelm are on this thread...and it explodes.

Someone save us alot of pain and close this thing down before it's too late.

Shows what you know. How do you feel?

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Your avatar is still highly offensive.
It makes my breakfast sour in my stomach, threatening to return to my mouth.

 

[Mr Jide]

The answer is simply, America is a nation that uses the foundation of christian beliefs to govern itself. However, it is not a nation that requires the laws and teachings of christianity to be forcefully adopted by its citizens, simply because its a "free" nation. America is a nation that caters to many religions even scientology. People of varying ethnicities, religions and what else do and practise as they please because it falls under the consitution.
At the end of the day, the overall goal is to achieve and maintain some sort of harmoneous atmosphere without fear of persecution for being different. So in a sense, the real question is, who cares? As long as we're able to believe in what we want, it doesn't really matter.

 

[Mr Jide]

Your avatar is still highly offensive.
It makes my breakfast sour in my stomach, threatening to return to my mouth.

Good. Now choke on it and die a slow, messy and violent death.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

America was founded by British settlers.It is a Christan nation,it's core still is anyway.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Good. Now choke on it and die a slow, messy and violent death.

That sure is a neat brand of Christianity you have, where you can just say, "I never said I was perfect." and then commit thousands of sins every day, planning to do it again the next, and the next, indefinitely, with no remorse.

 

[Addendum]

The people that settled in Jamestown in 1609, came for trade. Not religious freedom. Less than half of the 102 passengers on the Mayflower in 1620 were "pilgrims" seeking religious freedom. The secular United States was formed 150 years later.

 

[Mr Jide]

That sure is a neat brand of Christianity you have, where you can just say, "I never said I was perfect." and then commit thousands of sins every day, planning to do it again the next, and the next, indefinitely, with no remorse.

I said I do this, when . I'm not going to live my life like a saint. There are bad things that I do but those are mistakes I try to learn from to be a better person. Besides, I do alot of good. I'm not a christian by mouth and a diabolical hethen by action.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I said I do this, when . I'm not going to live my life like a saint. There are bad things that I do but those are mistakes I try to learn from to be a better person. Besides, I do alot of good. I'm not a christian by mouth and a diabolical hethen by action.

Mistakes are fine, but after the fact you have to make ammends and repent, which means to "turn away from your sin".

To choose that immodest, lascivious avatar was a "mistake".
A Christian would then, repent, by taking it down.
A Christian might slip and wish Death on someone.
Then, they would apologize, and even edit the post where they did it, as the Bible commands Christians to "avoid even the APPEARANCE of evil."


You're a hypocrite, face it. You don't follow Jesus any more than you do Ming the Merciless.

 

[Mr Jide]

Poor old man, I'm being facetious. Christians are aloud to have fun and make a few jokes you know.

 

[Matt]

Yes, America is clearly a predominantly Christian nation. That is a basic statistical fact. That being said, no, it is not, nor should it be a theocracy.

 

[Mr Jide]

As for my avvy, you must be confusing me with 7 day adventis people. By your misguided logic, I shouldn't be watching a lot of music videos, come off it.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Poor old man, I'm being facetious. Christians are aloud to have fun and make a few jokes you know.

Not that kind.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
"Be ye therefore followers of God as dear children: And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling savor. But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks" (Ephesians 5:1-4).

Paul exhorts the Christian to be a follower of God in accordance with the relationship of the child and the Heavenly Father. There are certain things that are not fitting for the child of God to engage in and are not appropriate or fitting for the character of purity. Noted in the text are such sins as fornication, uncleanness, covetousness and certain areas of speech that are not fitting for Christians: filthy speech, foolish talking and jesting are shown to be ill-fitting for the character of God's children.

Jesting is language that has doubtful morality to its content. The use of words and suggestions that tease the mind with suggestions of sinful activity are condemned by the Lord.[/FONT]



Colossians 3:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.

 

[Mr Jide]

Whatever. Like I said in the other thread. I have a PERSONAL relationship with God. He knows my heart and thats all that matters. Believe and think what you want but at the end of the day, you challenging me on this, when I and God knows what's what is, completely inconsequencial.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Oh, well that's cool if you don't believe the Bible is the Word of God, don't believe it was divinely inspired and agree that it was written by imperfect men.

 

[Mr Jide]

Your words not mine.

 

[Warhammer]

Is America a christian nation?

Perhaps.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

Exactly; so many get it caught in their heads that being a Christian is the equivalent of being a "good person"...when in fact, by God's standard of total perfection, no one is good but Him. You've probably heard it said, "Good people go to heaven". Well, that's wrong, due to the aforementioned standard. Since every one of us have done at least 1 thing wrong in our lives, that violates complete purity, and so we need Jesus to redeem us from this. The Bible states that in addition to being our Savior, Jesus is also our intercessor, continually pleading for us before the Father's throne.

If God provided no way for fallen people to be reconciled, then we'd all be in hell by default, regardless of how "good" we are on this Earth. God knows our hearts, even better than we do. He knows what we think and feel in the deepest core of our being. What we truly believe determines who we are and how we act. So, we are given a choice: an eternity with God, or an eternity without Him. The brutally-honest truth of the matter is this: "Forgiven people go to heaven, because none are good but God." Christians are just like everyone else, with one exception: they've embraced and accepted Jesus' offering of forgiveness and salvation through repentance and faith.