Is Batman an athiest?

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  1. Nietzsche

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    Do you think that Batman is an athiest or at least agnostic?
    As he is a master scientist, highly rational and serious and, more importantly, supposed to have a genius IQ, I can only imagine that Batman/Bruce Wayne does not believe in God or at least sees no reason to believe in him and is agnostic, claiming no knoweldge of his existence or non-existence (as none of us can). I was just wondering what you think because in contrast I would imagine that Spider-man and Captain America probably are christians or religious in some way lol. This may not be a relevant or important fact, but then neither are lots of forums in this place. So, just speculate away,
    do you imagine Bruce is religious or agnostic or athiest? What would his opinion be of religious people?
     
  2. Riven

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    You of all people should know that God is Dead...

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    I'd say Batman is an atheist, yeah. He's too cynical to believe in a god...
     
  3. Nietzsche

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    Haha, nice one Niven. What a picture. What a guy.
     
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    No..he does believe in God. He says so in Broken City I think...something along the lines of, "God himself is laughing at me." At least we know he acknowledges His existence.
     
  5. Nietzsche

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    Well, thats just one interpretation by one writer. I suppose it just comes down to the preferences of the writer and the fans. Well i knew that. So for me, he'll always be an athiest or agnostic.
     
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    The DC Universe has aliens, magic, demons, angels, gods and more. And Batman's met most of them in one comic or another. So he couldn't possibly be an atheist or agnostic.

    But he can still be non-religious, which is what he seems to be.
     
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    "And I do not pray, for I have no God" Batman in Arkham Asylum.
     
  8. Nietzsche

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    good good
     
  9. batmaluco

    batmaluco Run, Batman! Run!

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    Yeah! I remember that.
     
  10. SatanBurger

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    Heh, indeed.

    “Wherever there are walls I shall inscribe this eternal accusation against Christianity upon them-I can write in letters which make even the blind see … I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, the one great instinct for revenge for which no expedient is sufficiently poisonous, secret, subterranean, petty-I call it the one immortal blemish of mankind …”
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    Nietzsche is an entertaining fellow.

    Personally I never saw Batman as the type to buy into religion. Too cynical and rational.
     
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    you know, im a christian and this thread seems to be against it in a way, its making me a bit uncomfortable...
     
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    The most powerful man in the most powerful country is a stuttering, violent christian fundamentalist. If anyone should feel uncomfortable it's those on the other side of your fence.
     
  13. Nietzsche

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    Quote:
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    you know, im a christian and this thread seems to be against it in a way, its making me a bit uncomfortable...



    didn't mean to offend anyone. I was brought up a christian (well, by my mother) but then I never believed it. But many people who were once christians don't remain so, so people change.
     
  14. The Question

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    I don't think he cares. In his mind, there are serial killers and rapists loose on the streets. He probably feels that he doesn't have time for religion. He's probably just non religious. And the him being a scientist thing wouldn't make him athiest. Many scientists are religious.
     
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    A friend of mine told me about a story where Batman mentions his parents being religous. I think he's stuck between believing what his parents taught him and then seeing to cruelty of what happened to them. I never got to read it though, so I could be wrong.
     
  16. The Riddler

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    batman doesn't believe in luck either.
     
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    He was in the JLA with a f**king ANGEL. He knows there's a God, he just doesn't believe in Him.
     
  18. Batty for Bats!

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    This thread is making me confused. Is it what we think Batman is or going off info in other literature, Just batman or also adventures with JLA, just gotham or the entire world(him visting Tokoyo and meeting a supreme entity)??
    I don't think Batman believes in God. Me being an atheist myself, I can relate alot of stuff with that. Batman has seen his parents die infront of his eyes, where was God he might ask himself since they were very humane people. I think that Batman doesn't believe in anything untangible. If facts prove it to be so, Batman might consider it then.
     
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    How can he not belive in something if there is LIVING PROOF STANDING RIGHT beside him?I thought Batman was smart... :confused:
     
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    No, no, you misunderstood. I think I better way to put it is, he knows they exist, he just doesn't have any FAITH in Him.
     
  21. Fledermaus

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    Someone brought up "Broken City". The line in that whole story was in the beginning,
    "Now, lonely hearts and sunday school teachers like to say that rain is the tears of God. But God doesn't bother to cry on Gotham. This rain? If it comes from him...it's not his tears.
    This is kinda the attitude one has if they are a beliver in God, but They've lost someone important to them and it leaves you with the feeling that, well God is pissing on you. In my opinion Batman believes in God, he just doesn't like him very much.
     
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    What if Gods a girl.
     
  23. DrSpengler

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    I don't get how anyone in the DC universe can NOT believe in God. I mean, there's so much whacked-out, crazy sh1t in their world; winged space-aliens, guys with magical green energy rings, giant monsters with flaming skulls, mischievous imps, and so on and so on. How can people buy all that stuff staring at them in the face but find the belief in a God so out of the question?

    And Batman in particular. He worked in the JLA with a fallen angel, he's fought all sorts of supernatural monsters and what-not. He may not LIKE God, but he certainly has to believe in him.

    But, of course, in the DCU apparantly every religion is right and all Gods exist. The Christian God, the Pantheon, The Old Ones, Egyptian Gods, etc. So I guess what you believe in is what you get. And if you're an Athiest then you just stop existing when you die, but if you're a Christian you get to go play frisbee with Barry Allen.
     
  24. BatmanRules33

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    well, in BR, it seems to me that batman is a christian, remember when he says "merry christmas alfred,and good will toward men..and woman". sounds like he knows his bible stuff.
     
  25. Comic Book Boy

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    Well that cracks it.

    I agree with whoever wrote that too.

    Batman is an athiest.
     

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