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This article lists gripes that i think the majority of the people have with this movie:
http://www.slashfilm.com/15-bothered-the-dark-knight-rises/
I also share most of the same sentiments; but I just wanna fellow fans if you think my sentiments are justified:
As a batman fan, I am readily familiar with the character of the dark knight. I have also watched all the trailers and the press coverage before seeing the film; that is why everything in the movie failed to surprise me. I guess this really hampered my enjoyment of the film because I could see everything coming. For example I knew that batman would get beaten to a pulp on his 1st fight with bane and take him down on the 2nd fight. I knew that batman would sacrfice himself and detonate the nuke remotely as soon as talia died (just 2 prime examples)
I know a number of people have stated the film's reliance on exposition and flashbacks. I have already seen the previous films so this aspect didn't bother me at all. In fact I actually enjoyed them.
The music doesn't seem fresh and sound like remixes of the tracks in begins and TDK. In addition, the music didn't really seem to fit the scenes they were played in.
I was really disappointed with the fights and the choregraphy. Batman should be MUCH faster. With all that growling, the Bane vs. Batman fights were akin to wrestlers trading blows with each other. A another example of this was when Batman rescues Robin John Blake when he is surrounded by gunmen. The gunmen looked like they were waiting to get punched in the face. The choregraphy does not reflect the speed of the Batman as depicted in the comics.
This is a serious film and Nolan has made it clear that he wants to keep things as realistic as possible. However, a number of ridiculous things happen during the film. I won't go into detail but there are notable plot holes, cheesey scenes, plain unrealistic sequences (cops start rushing at the terrorists when the tanks are locked and loaded), the amount of explosions and chaos reminded me of a michael bay film, gothamites joining bane's terrorist cause against the gotham elites. Bane and his army of supporters take over Gotham City and block all means of transportation separating the city from the outside world. The very next scene features a montage of U.S. military commanders scrambling jets and the President of the United States holding a press conference about the fate of Gotham. While the rest of the world abandons Gotham, batman becomes the city's only hope. So much for realism . . .
It just feels so incredibly silly that begs so many unnecessary questions and possible scenarios I really had to suspend my disbelief contemplating the possibility of Batman and the Navy Seals teaming up to combat terrorism.
Furthmore, how Bruce Wayne suddenly develops a romantic interest in Miranda is beyond me. Maybe he just wanted to end his eight years of abstinence?
Nolan himself talks about "adding scale, raising the stakes; like a war or disaster movie". Critic Christopher Orr sums this up perfectly - "Of the Batman films, it's the one in which Nolan's ambitions have most clearly outstripped his results"
Overall TDKR seems more 'epic' for the sake of being 'epic' like a traditional action blockbuster rather than being deemed epic from quality storytelling, acting and characterization. I felt that Nolan's thinking this time was that since it's his last batman, he had to make it as epic as possible; and when one thinks like this, he risks cramming the film, sacrificing quality for quantity.
I think TDK was just too good due to Heath's indescribly awesome performance. Thus my expectations were overly inflated.
Or maybe the joker is just too good of a villan. Bane just felt flat in comparison.
Not surprisingly, I feel that my own review is unfairly biased. That being said, TDKR is still leagues ahead of any other superhero movie.
But enough of the bad. I felt that one of the positives was that Nolan tried to reconnect the story back to Begins. He reminds us that batman is a mere human. That he is just a man; and he touches on batman's roots: why he became the bat in the 1st place.
Even though there was a lot of over the top action sequences, nolan was a saint in keeping the amount of special effects low. I appreciate him keeping it raw and visceral. i also appreciate the inclusion of various comic book characters
In summary TDKR was very disappointing for me. I was also very nervous while watching it lol. Nolan really outdid himself with TDK and I'm sorry to say that he should have left it at that. I'm willing to accept that TDK is the best superhero film that I will see in this lifetime.
I would just like to ask if fellow fans share the same sentiments or think that my sentiments are justified.
Thanks
http://www.slashfilm.com/15-bothered-the-dark-knight-rises/
I also share most of the same sentiments; but I just wanna fellow fans if you think my sentiments are justified:
As a batman fan, I am readily familiar with the character of the dark knight. I have also watched all the trailers and the press coverage before seeing the film; that is why everything in the movie failed to surprise me. I guess this really hampered my enjoyment of the film because I could see everything coming. For example I knew that batman would get beaten to a pulp on his 1st fight with bane and take him down on the 2nd fight. I knew that batman would sacrfice himself and detonate the nuke remotely as soon as talia died (just 2 prime examples)
I know a number of people have stated the film's reliance on exposition and flashbacks. I have already seen the previous films so this aspect didn't bother me at all. In fact I actually enjoyed them.
The music doesn't seem fresh and sound like remixes of the tracks in begins and TDK. In addition, the music didn't really seem to fit the scenes they were played in.
I was really disappointed with the fights and the choregraphy. Batman should be MUCH faster. With all that growling, the Bane vs. Batman fights were akin to wrestlers trading blows with each other. A another example of this was when Batman rescues Robin John Blake when he is surrounded by gunmen. The gunmen looked like they were waiting to get punched in the face. The choregraphy does not reflect the speed of the Batman as depicted in the comics.
This is a serious film and Nolan has made it clear that he wants to keep things as realistic as possible. However, a number of ridiculous things happen during the film. I won't go into detail but there are notable plot holes, cheesey scenes, plain unrealistic sequences (cops start rushing at the terrorists when the tanks are locked and loaded), the amount of explosions and chaos reminded me of a michael bay film, gothamites joining bane's terrorist cause against the gotham elites. Bane and his army of supporters take over Gotham City and block all means of transportation separating the city from the outside world. The very next scene features a montage of U.S. military commanders scrambling jets and the President of the United States holding a press conference about the fate of Gotham. While the rest of the world abandons Gotham, batman becomes the city's only hope. So much for realism . . .
It just feels so incredibly silly that begs so many unnecessary questions and possible scenarios I really had to suspend my disbelief contemplating the possibility of Batman and the Navy Seals teaming up to combat terrorism.
Furthmore, how Bruce Wayne suddenly develops a romantic interest in Miranda is beyond me. Maybe he just wanted to end his eight years of abstinence?
Nolan himself talks about "adding scale, raising the stakes; like a war or disaster movie". Critic Christopher Orr sums this up perfectly - "Of the Batman films, it's the one in which Nolan's ambitions have most clearly outstripped his results"
Overall TDKR seems more 'epic' for the sake of being 'epic' like a traditional action blockbuster rather than being deemed epic from quality storytelling, acting and characterization. I felt that Nolan's thinking this time was that since it's his last batman, he had to make it as epic as possible; and when one thinks like this, he risks cramming the film, sacrificing quality for quantity.
I think TDK was just too good due to Heath's indescribly awesome performance. Thus my expectations were overly inflated.
Or maybe the joker is just too good of a villan. Bane just felt flat in comparison.
Not surprisingly, I feel that my own review is unfairly biased. That being said, TDKR is still leagues ahead of any other superhero movie.
But enough of the bad. I felt that one of the positives was that Nolan tried to reconnect the story back to Begins. He reminds us that batman is a mere human. That he is just a man; and he touches on batman's roots: why he became the bat in the 1st place.
Even though there was a lot of over the top action sequences, nolan was a saint in keeping the amount of special effects low. I appreciate him keeping it raw and visceral. i also appreciate the inclusion of various comic book characters
In summary TDKR was very disappointing for me. I was also very nervous while watching it lol. Nolan really outdid himself with TDK and I'm sorry to say that he should have left it at that. I'm willing to accept that TDK is the best superhero film that I will see in this lifetime.
I would just like to ask if fellow fans share the same sentiments or think that my sentiments are justified.
Thanks