Is 'simulated rape porn' to be banned in the UK?

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AmazingAtheist has a video on this but can't post it 'cause of the swearing.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/11/17/rape-...rs-in-jail-david-cameron-to-announce-4189512/

http://www.businessinsider.com/people-with-rape-porn-in-the-uk-could-get-jail-time-2013-11

People In The UK Who Have Porn Showing Fake Rape Could Get As Much Jail As Real Rapists In America

The latest chapter of Prime Minister David Cameron's ongoing plan to enact a ban on porn is set to happen on Monday when he announces that anyone who possesses a porn depicting rape (simulated or not) can face up to three years in jail — the same amount of prison time as the average sentence for actual sexual assault in the United States.
Yes, that's sort of embarrassing when it comes to sexual assault sentencing in U.S., but many feel like the U.K. change is too strict when it comes to what's become a common fantasy.

The new anti rape-porn law will broaden the definition of possession to viewing the criminal porn on a browser, The Mirror reports, and Metro UK explains that this will go into effect in 2014:

The changes to the law, which will be introduced in January, will bring England and Wales in line with Scotland, where the offence carries a maximum sentence of three years in jail.

Mr Cameron is targeting websites which show videos and images of rape – whether they claim they are ‘simulated’ or not.

Cameron said this summer that these measures and his anti-porn push were about helping women and children. Cameron explained that he wanted to eliminate child pornography and change how women are depicted in these films — he hopes that cutting down on rape pornography it may change sexual violence in the country. No one really has any qualms with Cameron's goal to punish and clamp down on predators who are producing and procuring child porn.

But his rape ordinance isn't going over as smoothly.

Yes, in the darkest corners of the Internet, there are disgusting videos of actual rape out there. But there are also plenty of films which now straddle the line and touch upon rape/dominance fantasies. And these films aren't just for men. According to a 2009 study from North Texas University, 62 percent of women said they had a fantasy when they were having sex against their will. Psychology Today reports that history has shown similar statistics:

From 1973 through 2008, nine surveys of women's rape fantasies have been published. They show that about four in 10 women admit having them (31 to 57 percent) with a median frequency of about once a month. Actual prevalence of rape fantasies is probably higher because women may not feel comfortable admitting them.

Having a fantasy and reality are, of course, very different things. People playing paintball probably wouldn't want to actually get shot by real a gun and real bullets, and people watching slasher movies don't want to actually kill a bunch of good-looking white people. In that same vein, the majority of women and men who fantasize about a domination/non-consensual fantasy aren't actually looking to get real-life raped or do real-life raping (not to mention, there are plenty of men, gay and straight, who fantasize about being dominated too).

That North Texas study found that there's a sharp drop off when it comes to the wording — when "rape" is used, only 32 percent of women admit to the fantasy, when "overpowered by a man" is used, that number jumps to 52 percent of women. And men aren't necessarily comfortable acting out rape fantasies their partners ask for, either.

Further, the connection between actual real-life violence and porn is blurry at best — India, which bans all forms of porn, has been in the news thanks to a rash of brutal rapes. Meanwhile, in the United States the incidence of rape declined 85 percent over a period of 25 years while access to pornography has increased, The New York Times reported.

Figuring out how to send the right message and what constitutes bad and good and the depiction of women is no doubt tough. But the idea of criminalizing and punishing a common fantasy and not addressing or recognizing that fantasy is not reality, isn't exactly helping.
 
I welcome the idea of banning porn with open arms, but this is kinda ridiculous
On the hand, I understand their point of view
 
Do you watch Game of Thrones? Do you own any movies with scenes that could be considered a simulated rape scene?

Do you own any books, for example a Stephen King book, with rape described in it?

50 Shades of Grey?

Would you be in favour of all those being banned?
 
David Cameron, the man who forgets his daughter in a bar, dictating what women can and can not view in the privacy of their own homes.

Kind of puts Obama into perspective, doesn't it?
 
Do you watch Game of Thrones? Do you own any movies with scenes that could be considered a simulated rape scene?

Do you own any books, for example a Stephen King book, with rape described in it?

50 Shades of Grey?

Would you be in favour of all those being banned?

Game of Thrones is actually filmed in two countries of the UK. However, the Northern Irish at least have the excuse that it isn't law there.
 
I'm sure they'll make some exception for artistic stuff, otherwise, they'd have to ban Shakespeare.

This really is absurd though.
 
I understand the logic of it, I suppose.
 
Do you watch Game of Thrones? Do you own any movies with scenes that could be considered a simulated rape scene?

Do you own any books, for example a Stephen King book, with rape described in it?

50 Shades of Grey?
No, to all of these
One of the fellas I was with in high school showed us a moment of simulated rape

Would you be in favor of all those being banned?
I will be in favor of chipping out porn, not sure about completely banning the whole story

I'm completely anti-porn, for that I don't keep anything containing sexual or nudity scenes, if the porn scene(s) (rape or not) is/are important to the story then I'm in favor of banning it
 
I don't know if this would be a popular opinion, but I believe that as long as it can be proven that it isn't real and is just acting, and all the actors are over 18, and none of the actors are hurt, then I don't see the problem. If it bothers you don't watch it. I understand the whole like trying to get people to be less likely to rape, so maybe there could be big anti-rape ads on the sites or something, but honestly if they ban it, I doubt anything is really going to happen. They will just get it using proxies or something, or from other countries. Banning it will hardly do anything at all.
 
It's a very slippery slope.

As long as it's consenting adults, and you know... not real, I don't see why it should even be an issue.

Don't like it? Don't watch it.
 
Well i'm a women, and I think it's an outrage. I have enjoyed various different 'overpowering scenarios' and i'm not ashamed to admit that, nor do I in any way believe it to be immoral or worthy of being illegal.
 
Is it consensual and no one is actually getting raped? Then it's none of your business. Period. My fiance and I have had plenty of kinky times that I guess would get someone arrested if they watched a video of it. Ridiculous.
 
Is it consensual and no one is actually getting raped? Then it's none of your business. Period. My fiance and I have had plenty of kinky times that I guess would get someone arrested if they watched a video of it. Ridiculous.

I completely agree. It is ridiculous that I almost get arrested every time I watch you and your fiance.
 
I'm not a fan of simulated rape in porn anyway. It's not my preferred scenario to watch. Choking and screaming in pain. Naw, man.

:o
 
Well, you gotta expect some screaming in pain. Otherwise it's like the guy's not even doing his job.
 
Do you watch Game of Thrones? Do you own any movies with scenes that could be considered a simulated rape scene?

Do you own any books, for example a Stephen King book, with rape described in it?

50 Shades of Grey?

Would you be in favour of all those being banned?

None of those are rape porn, though. I'm of the opinion that the porn industry brutalizes the users and the producers.
 
I think rape porn is sick and perverted, but talk about banning porn in general is absurd.

If you don't like it, then don't watch it. Porn does nothing for me, in fact I find it off-putting, so I don't watch it. I don't go around trying to dictate what other people should be "allowed" to watch or think for some reason that it's up to me.
 
David Cameron is just trying to appeal to his right wing middle England support base. I'm willing to bet money that you could probably find Rape porn on the computers of some of his party members.
 
I don't know if this would be a popular opinion, but I believe that as long as it can be proven that it isn't real and is just acting, and all the actors are over 18, and none of the actors are hurt, then I don't see the problem. If it bothers you don't watch it. I understand the whole like trying to get people to be less likely to rape, so maybe there could be big anti-rape ads on the sites or something, but honestly if they ban it, I doubt anything is really going to happen. They will just get it using proxies or something, or from other countries. Banning it will hardly do anything at all.

This is basically how I feel about it. Rape porn is not for me, but if consenting adults want to watch a video depicting it made by other consenting adults, then I really don't see the problem. As long as you're not hurting anybody, get off however you get off.
 
No, to all of these
One of the fellas I was with in high school showed us a moment of simulated rape

I will be in favor of chipping out porn, not sure about completely banning the whole story

I'm completely anti-porn, for that I don't keep anything containing sexual or nudity scenes, if the porn scene(s) (rape or not) is/are important to the story then I'm in favor of banning it


Why?

Why do you think that you should dictate what other people watch?

Are you unable to imagine the shoe on the other foot and someone arbitrarily banning something you enjoy?
 
None of those are rape porn, though. I'm of the opinion that the porn industry brutalizes the users and the producers.

that may be a fair point, but how is it different.

both outcomes are actors acting out a situation where someone is raped, the only main differences is one is considered mainstream entertainment. at the end both actors put on they're clothes, smile and go home.

a tv show shown in the uk shows a man/woman get graphically raped, would this sho now be banned. rapes a poor story telling subject its never done except out of poor shock value, but an outright ban is just as others have said a slippy slope

i'm not into rape porn, personally i think its kinda sick. but if thats your kink and you're not actually physically hurting anyone and everyone is of sound mind and consent then its your own personal business.


and on a side not anything the amazing atheist says should be taken with a tanker truck of salt
 
What really erks me is that the people that make laws like that don't even take scientific studies into to consideration when making laws. It's like in there minds they just believe that banning that type of marital will make the nut jobs out there that actually go around rapping people less Rapey and that's just not the case. It won't even change the rape statistics 20 or 30 years down the road.
 
What really erks me is that the people that make laws like that don't even take scientific studies into to consideration when making laws. It's like in there minds they just believe that banning that type of marital will make the nut jobs out there that actually go around rapping people less Rapey and that's just not the case. It won't even change the rape statistics 20 or 30 years down the road.

This is actually true. Before becoming prime minister David Cameron, as leader of the opposition, brought up a campaign against violence in video games with the re-release of Manhunt 2 in the UK.

After becoming prime minister he launched a paliamentary inquiry on the detrimental effects of video games and the inquiry found there effect is minimal, and they should be more concerned with the social issues.
 
Jodie Foster won her first Academy Award for The Accused. And though the movie depicts a fairly brutal gang rape (simulated, of course), it clearly doesn’t endorse or glamorize the act. Would the British law apply to those who happen to have The Accused in their video library? :huh:
 

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