Comics Is the X-franchise still good?

[Silvermoth]

In my opinion, things are really lagging in the X-stories. I don't know why because some great writers (Fraction, Carrey and Immonen) are telling X-stories that just aren't at the same level of quality as other stories written by them. I can say the lack of good X-stories is related to the following...

• Too many events
• Too many deaths that mean nothing
• Lackluster rebirths
• Lack of character driven stories
• Too few mutants decreases the amount of interest in the franchise.

What do you think?

 

[Johnny Drama]

For the first time ever I am more interested in X-Factor/X-Force than I am X-Men.

They need to keep things simple. 2 X-Books. 2 Rosters. And keep Wolverine on only one team, or keep him with X-Force and remove him from the X-Men books alltogether.

Cancel Astonishing X-Men and pretend everything that happened in that series after Whedon never happened.

If I had it my way, we would have Uncanny X-Men, X-Men, X-Force, X-Factor, Wolverine (period piece ongoing that either took place in the past or the future that never parallels the other X-Books) and Cable/Deadpool.

After that, cut the fat.

 

[El Bastardo]

The franchise is in a place where it's narratively sound and has a direction. It's fine.

 

[squeekness]

For the first time ever I am more interested in X-Factor/X-Force than I am X-Men.

They need to keep things simple. 2 X-Books. 2 Rosters. And keep Wolverine on only one team, or keep him with X-Force and remove him from the X-Men books alltogether.

Cancel Astonishing X-Men and pretend everything that happened in that series after Whedon never happened.

If I had it my way, we would have Uncanny X-Men, X-Men, X-Force, X-Factor, Wolverine (period piece ongoing that either took place in the past or the future that never parallels the other X-Books) and Cable/Deadpool.

After that, cut the fat.

This is me. The regular books just stink. Maybe it's because poor Gambit's been so badly messed with I cain't hardly stand it anymore or maybe I've been reading them much too long, but something needs to change and soon. The sad part is that Istill keep buying the darn things. I keep thinking maybe I should start dropping them but I am such a completeist that I just keep going, even when I don't like them.

 

[Mace Dolex]

I just stopped buying the X-books in early 2000's and now when I browse through them I don't recognize anybody, new costumes, new mutants, new writers, new artists and newer plotlines are created while others forgotten.

Where once the X-Men were the hottest selling comics of the 90's has been overshadowed by The Avengers and their Secret Invasion, Civil War, New Avengers.

 

[mjdiddy1]

I have to agree with the disappearance of all but 198 mutants really turned me off from the X-books and the constent status quo changes bothered me. In my opinion it all began with Grant Morrison who took all the color and flavor out of the X-men in his attempt to merge the printed versions with the movie version. My philosophy is if it ain't broken make it better and all he did was broke it down and rebuilt it into what we see today. I love Mike Carrey and Fraction but I miss the 70's-90's version of the team that was action, adventure, & drama oriented . I guess I'm nostalgic that way...and no more Forever titles, sheesh!

 

[Silvermoth]

Quoted from Tom Brevoort's twitter blog (http://www.formspring.me/TomBrevoort/q/402412005)

Q: You mentioned that you don't think the fans would like the X-titles as much if you were editing them. Is there a direction you'd want to take them in which would be controversial?

A: Not controversial so much, per se. But I liked the X-Men of forty years ago, when Wolverine was the powder keg rival, rather than the grizzled samurai tough guy soul of the team. I tend to not have any strong affinity for most of the X-Men characters beyond my time, characters who are incredibly popular within the franchise. Also, I tend to feel like, in trying to keep the X-Men edgy, they've been skirted too far over teh line dividing heroes and villains, too quick to kill or to take the easy route of voilence while hand-waving any objection away with some empty platitudes--to the point where I genuinely find that I don't know who to root for more often than not. But that's my perspective as an individual reader, rather than a problem that the audience as a whole has, so I suspect there'd be problems if my aesthetic started driving that line. In other words, the stuff I liked about X-Men aren't really what most of the folks who've liked X-Men over the past thirty years have liked about X-Men.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[Manic]

It feels like a majority of X-Men stories these days are just filler until we get to the next event. I was looking forward to the X-Men's move to San Francisco, but the stories seemed to all be directionless time wasters (especially Sisterhood, which was clearly made up as they went along and not planned out at all when it started) until they could get around to the Dark Avengers/X-Men crossover event. Then the X-Men moved to their island, and it feels like the few stories that happened afterward were just meaningless fluff to pad out the core titles until they could get around to Second Coming. I'm willing to bet Second Coming will create an "all new direction" for the X-titles... for about a year or less, then the next event will come along and create yet another "all new direction."

Meanwhile, satellite titles like X-Force and New Mutants feel like even bigger time wasters. I used to knock X-Force because I was opposed to the X-Men having a secret assassin squad, but now I'm knocking that title because it's only ever used as an event tie-in. They got one or two stories out of that title before it became a vehicle for Messiah War. Then before readers could even anticipate another X-Force story, the comic (along with New Mutants) turned into a vehicle for Necrosha. Now literally before anything else could go down, Second Coming is happening on the heels of Necrosha. X-Force and New Mutants currently serve no purpose that couldn't be accomplished with an event-titled miniseries like the rest of the Marvel Universe uses.

I'm only enjoying X-Factor because it has nothing to do with the rest of the X-franchise. It's doing its own thing, and interacting with the rest of the Marvel Universe instead.

 

[roach]

Quoted from Tom Brevoort's twitter blog (http://www.formspring.me/TomBrevoort/q/402412005)



I couldn't agree more.

wow..now I wish he was editing the books....and I think there lies the problem..they arent going to change the book because they believe everyone loves the direction