Apocalypse Is X-men: Apocalypse considered a success sales-wise?

[RLAAMJR.]

X-men: Apocalypse

Production Budget: $178 million
Worldwide: $534,619,896




And to add, multiple advertisements.

 

[superweirdo87]

No. It is seen as a disappointment. Also, one of the heads of Fox said that it did not reach expectations on their earnings call.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Don't know why we needed this as a thread.

 

[henzINNIT]

It's not a flop, but it would be hard to argue it was a success either.

Don't know why we needed this as a thread.

Because the section is dead already?

 

[Flint Marko]

No. It is seen as a disappointment. Also, one of the heads of Fox said that it did not reach expectations on their earnings call.

Wait, did they really?

 

[DACrowe]

If you are asking that it will make money by the end of its run, or at least on Blu-ray and digital downloads, and TV rights? Yes, it will make money.

Did it make so much money that Fox can be happy with it and consider it a hit? No, it did not.

 

[X-Maniac]

I think it will be seen as a moderate success overall, more than likely after the home video sales come in.

The opening weekend was disappointing. The critical reception was terrible. Domestic box office has been weak.

 

[superweirdo87]

Wait, did they really?

Yeah.

"But I'd be remiss if I didn't also recognize that while you need to measure the film business over a multi-year cycle, the recent three sequels we released clearly fell short of the expectations we had going into them. It is our goal to be far more consistent with this output."

http://seekingalpha.com/article/399...-2016-results-earnings-call-transcript?page=2

 

[Smilodon]

The pressure will definitely be on Stacey Snider to find and produce better films. X-Men's disappointment and Deadpool's success aside, you can't have other films underwhelming in conjunction.

Then again, there's also Alien, Kingsman, and Planet of the Apes next year. But they could use a few more hits. Hopefully Assassin's Creed does well.

 

[psylockolussus]

Its a box-office disappointment and a critical failure especially after X-Men: Days of Future Past and Deadpool!

 

[DACrowe]

Yeah.

"But I'd be remiss if I didn't also recognize that while you need to measure the film business over a multi-year cycle, the recent three sequels we released clearly fell short of the expectations we had going into them. It is our goal to be far more consistent with this output."

http://seekingalpha.com/article/399...-2016-results-earnings-call-transcript?page=2

I did not see that. But one of those sequels is presumably Independence Day 2. Apocalypse looks a whole lot better to the studio when compared to that.

 

[def28]

Is Apocalypse a success? It's currently dropping down the film brand in every way so no imo. The next film is in trouble because of it, and this isn't a film series Fox wants to hold out on.

This was also a villain who has been hyped since X-Men 1, and they wasted him along a few others who have been wasted before. They didn't learn their lesson which is a shame cause the potential was all there.

While not a franchise killer, X-Men Apocalypse has put the main IP in a tough situation.

 

[SAUspartan]

Wtf with some of these replies.

Of course it's a success. It's not a box office failure. Also, it's way more acclaimed then BvS or Suicide Squad. So it's right in the middle of the pack as far as comic films this year beating both WB movies critically.

 

[psylockolussus]

I did not see that. But one of those sequels is presumably Independence Day 2. Apocalypse looks a whole lot better to the studio when compared to that.

Independence Day Resurgence is a sequel to a film that came out 20 years ago and I doubt many people were still asking for a sequel to be released.

While Apocalypse had the goodwill of Days of Future Past and Deadpool. Those films are still quite recent.

 

[def28]

Wtf with some of these replies.

Of course it's a success. It's not a box office failure. Also, it's way more acclaimed then BvS or Suicide Squad. So it's right in the middle of the pack as far as comic films this year beating both WB movies critically.

The fact it's closer to Suicide Squad and BvS and not Deadpool, DOFP, First Class or Civil War isn't a good thing at all. DOFP was a series high and this is now a series low.

X-Men 3 was allegedly this tragedy for the series by just about every fan even though it pulled in better scores and more money for it's time. Why would this films reception be good for the franchise?

 

[LoganGambit87]

20th Century FOX needs a better marketing team because as someone who liked XMA the marketing sucked and the trailers were decent at best there is no reason for a film about DC super villains doing 70 million more Opening Weekend than an X men film featuring one of the most iconic comic book villains of all time.

the answer was marketing suicide squad has a much worse critical rotten tomatoes rating than this film but the marketing,merchandise,epic trailer got the film hyped up

many people didn't even care an x men film was coming out even after the awesome DOFP

 

[def28]

Suicide Squad brought the Joker and Harley Quinn so it was guaranteed a big opener on some level. But yeah, the marketing for the film was fantastic.

The thing that really hurt Apocalypse was the 3 week early reviews with bad wom. People heard it was bad far before it was released. Bad move on Fox.

 

[Smilodon]

The fact it's closer to Suicide Squad and BvS and not Deadpool, DOFP, First Class or Civil War isn't a good thing at all. DOFP was a series high and this is now a series low.

X-Men 3 was allegedly this tragedy for the series by just about every fan even though it pulled in better scores and more money for it's time. Why would this films reception be good for the franchise?

People are just pleased with the cinematic redemptions of Scott and Jean, the reintroduction of certain characters like Nightcrawler and Moira and the hopeful, heroic tone throughout the film. That gives it the edge over X3.

But regardless of the things the film got right (which I was ecstatic for, don't get me wrong), it still underwhelmed critically and financially, and things need to change in order for this franchise to keep up. The flagship can't be doing these numbers, and each X-Men film needs to become an event in order to keep up with the continually increasing scale of the MCU and the DC films.

 

[def28]

Agreed

While the inclusion of characters was good to see, it was not enough to save this narrative as a whole or redeem the negative wom, bad reviews and box office drop. These things one way or another are gonna make things more difficult.

The fact this board is questioning if it was a success and that 500m wasn't an option on the polls should be a sign for how the film played. Fans didn't expect this and neither did Fox.

 

[psylockolussus]

Its definitely a box-office surprise, though if I was the one that started the box-office thread, there would have been an option for $500 million.

 

[Snaaaaake!]

Wtf with some of these replies.

Of course it's a success. It's not a box office failure. Also, it's way more acclaimed then BvS or Suicide Squad. So it's right in the middle of the pack as far as comic films this year beating both WB movies critically.

Wait, so being top Rotten CBM of the year is what Studios are shooting for now? WTF indeed.

 

[DavidHaller]

I found these blockbuster movies quite ridiculous to be honest if your movie is making more than half a billion dollar, is the 8th most successful movie worldwide and it is still considered a financial failure...?!

maybe the real problem with the X-Men franchise is not the current boxoffice result but that it is way more difficult to do the tent-pole system with the franchise if you cannot sell toys and merchandise?!

there is also a lot of schadenfreude in this thread...but at least a mediocre Bryan Singer movie is still way better than everything DC released so far...

 

[First Avenger]

Wtf with some of these replies.

Of course it's a success. It's not a box office failure. Also, it's way more acclaimed then BvS or Suicide Squad. So it's right in the middle of the pack as far as comic films this year beating both WB movies critically.

Acclaimed? Being better than DC movies doesn't mean much as those are bad movies.It was a big disappointment in crtical,audience and Box Office reception. I was so pumped for it as I loved FC and DoFP.

I also suspect the 178 million budget is not the real one.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I also suspect the 178 million budget is not the real one.

I don't see why it would be higher tbh, the Teenage mutant ninja turtles sequel budget was $135 million and that was alot of CGI on screen while X-Men apocalypse didn't have all that much going on in comparison.

 

[metaphysician]

I think the issue with X-Men Apocalypse is less the raw "does it turn a profit" question ( its lower budget may allow it ), and more that its such a sharp drop from the prior movie in both sales and acclaim. It just doesn't bode well for the future of the franchise.