BvS It's always Darkest before The Dawn... Chris Terrio IS the Script Writer

[TheNextNolan22]

I certain cat who probably lives in the slums.

 

[MrsKent26]

More cookies for us then!

 

[Tempest]

I have one word for this.

Meh.

We had a good basis with MOS. Not a perfect world, but an exciting, different take on Superman. I liked it, hands down, more than any other super hero film I've seen to date.

Now I'm worried they're going to Marvelize this world.

I don't know this guy's work. I didn't see Argo, so anyone have any clue on what this guy could bring to the table? Will he Marvelize this film (i.e. make it stupid so people won't have to think too hard), or will he make it more dramatic?

 

[Migu-EL]

I want some cookies, with milk.t:

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Argo was "light" in terms of depth, I thought, but it was DEFINITELY dramatic.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

I have one word for this.

Meh.

We had a good basis with MOS. Not a perfect world, but an exciting, different take on Superman. I liked it, hands down, more than any other super hero film I've seen to date.

Now I'm worried they're going to Marvelize this world.

I don't know this guy's work. I didn't see Argo, so anyone have any clue on what this guy could bring to the table? Will he Marvelize this film (i.e. make it stupid so people won't have to think too hard), or will he make it more dramatic?

And here's the baseless negativity right on schedule. That said, I doubt he'll "make it stupid so people won't think".

 

[Wise]

Argo was "light" in terms of depth, I thought, but it was DEFINITELY dramatic.

The important thing was that Argo had snappy dialogue. Especially between Goodman, Arkin and Affleck.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Argo had some great dark humor in it, but it was definitely a tense and dramatic movie. Dialogue was also really great.

 

[Tempest]

And here's the baseless negativity right on schedule. That said, I doubt he'll "make it stupid so people won't think".

It's not baseless. The more people who get involved in a project, the more likely it is to go off the rails. It could be a brilliant move (what most people seem to think), or it could be a terrible idea that ruins what we already had.

So you know, I'd like this film to build forward from MOS. I'm kind of worried they're going to go backwards into SR territory, or worse yet, go all the way back to Donner films. Blech. No thanks.

 

[Wise]

It's not baseless. The more people who get involved in a project, the more likely it is to go off the rails. It could be a brilliant move (what most people seem to think), or it could be a terrible idea that ruins what we already had.

So you know, I'd like this film to build forward from MOS. I'm kind of worried they're going to go backwards into SR territory, or worse yet, go all the way back to Donner films. Blech. No thanks.

You'd be surprised how many movies have only one screenwriter credited, but had multiple screenwriters working on the script.

Tarentino used to do a lot of uncredited Screenwriting back in the 90's where he'd be brought in to punch up dialogue.

 

[charl_huntress]

Now I'm worried they're going to Marvelize this world.

I don't know this guy's work. I didn't see Argo, so anyone have any clue on what this guy could bring to the table? Will he Marvelize this film (i.e. make it stupid so people won't have to think too hard), or will he make it more dramatic?

If I may ask...what exactly do you mean by Marvelize?

 

[Jekecy]

I have one word for this.

Meh.

We had a good basis with MOS. Not a perfect world, but an exciting, different take on Superman. I liked it, hands down, more than any other super hero film I've seen to date.

Now I'm worried they're going to Marvelize this world.

I don't know this guy's work. I didn't see Argo, so anyone have any clue on what this guy could bring to the table? Will he Marvelize this film (i.e. make it stupid so people won't have to think too hard), or will he make it more dramatic?

I'm a bit baffled at having any sort of response without even seeing the writer's work. Even so, on paper it's an imbalance. In terms of sheer experience David's got Terrio beat by a mile. But he's also known to be a hit-and-miss, and has a knack for driving the thematic point of his films with the subtlety of an atomic bomb (count how many times "fear" and "hope" is used in his Batman and Superman scripts).

On the other hand you've got Terrio who only has one Hollywood picture under his belt. Caveat being that film was a critical darling. And furthermore, Terrio himself nabbed the WGA and Academy Award for best adapted screenplay. Most logical people would tell you having Terrio taking over for rewrites is a damn smart move. Goyer's talents have already been taken advantage of. The guy laid the groundwork for the characterizations and overall story. He's more than adept at that. In terms of the finer details, we should welcome the likes of Terrio. Argo showed fine skill in interweaving various plot threads along with snappy and natural dialog.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

By a baseless, he means that the fact the you're judging him without seeing a single piece of his work.

 

[MrsKent26]

I have one word for this.

Meh.

We had a good basis with MOS. Not a perfect world, but an exciting, different take on Superman. I liked it, hands down, more than any other super hero film I've seen to date.

Now I'm worried they're going to Marvelize this world.

I don't know this guy's work. I didn't see Argo, so anyone have any clue on what this guy could bring to the table? Will he Marvelize this film (i.e. make it stupid so people won't have to think too hard), or will he make it more dramatic?

I don't think he will Marvelize it. I don't know for sure, but I think he will help make the script better and help with dialogue and characterization. But Goyer is still on the project. It will likely still be using the plot he outlined and planned for this movie. It probably won't be Marvelized because both Snyder and Goyer don't use that style and they are both still on the project. I can picture a movie with Goyer's great plot ideas, but better/more natural dialogue. It will still have many of the good aspects of MOS, I think, because the MOS team is still present. They just have some more talent added to the pot.

 

[Tempest]

You'd be surprised how many movies have only one screenwriter credited, but had multiple screenwriters working on the script.

Tarentino used to do a lot of uncredited Screenwriting back in the 90's where he'd be brought in to punch up dialogue.

I know that there are often many script writers to films. Which is why I'm not thrilled that they are adding yet another pair of hands to this film, because unlike the many ranters about how much Goyer failed, I realized there were probably plenty of other people with their hands on the MOS script.

Sometimes it works out well, but really, how good are most movies to begin with? A lot of the suck, and suck badly. So let's not pretend that having more hands on deck actually produces a better product.

If I may ask...what exactly do you mean by Marvelize?

Basically, I think people are entertained because the films don't require a lot of anything from people, and that's not what I want for this 'verse. I liked MOS because it had depth and heart. It challenged people on what is right and what is wrong, because it blurred the lines and gave us a bunch of gray areas. I liked that.

That's the nicest way I can put it. I despise all the Iron Man films, Thor failed to intrigue me, and I didn't even bother with Captain America or Avengers. Not. Interested.

 

[vantheman77]

I hope Chris Terrio will build upon what Zack Snyder and David Goyer setup in the MOS universe and present Superman in the proper light. Also to those who think Zack Snyder should be replaced, don't bet it as he's a fan of the mythology especially when it's Superman.

 

[MrsKent26]

I want some cookies, with milk.t:

 

[charl_huntress]

Basically, I think people are entertained because the films don't require a lot of anything from people, and that's not what I want for this 'verse. I liked MOS because it had depth and heart. It challenged people on what is right and what is wrong, because it blurred the lines and gave us a bunch of gray areas. I liked that.

That's the nicest way I can put it. I despise all the Iron Man films, Thor failed to intrigue me, and I didn't even bother with Captain America or Avengers. Not. Interested.

Thank you for answering. I just wanted a bit more clarification because I do hear that a lot.

To answer your question, I don't think so. I tend to think they brought him in to improve the dialogue and polish some areas that may need polishing. I don't think he will change the tone they set in MOS. I think that is the tone they want to keep so they can distinguish themselves from Marvel.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

So glad it's the holiday season. t:

 

[MrsKent26]

Forget the Holidays. It's GoyerFinallyGotACo-Writer day!

 

[Tempest]

I'm a bit baffled at having any sort of response without even seeing the writer's work. Even so, on paper it's an imbalance. In terms of sheer experience David's got Terrio beat by a mile. But he's also known to be a hit-and-miss, and has a knack for driving the thematic point of his films with the subtlety of an atomic bomb (count how many times "fear" and "hope" is used in his Batman and Superman scripts).

On the other hand you've got Terrio who only has one Hollywood picture under his belt. Caveat being that film was a critical darling. And furthermore, Terrio himself nabbed the WGA and Academy Award for best adapted screenplay. Most logical people would tell you having Terrio taking over for rewrites is a damn smart move. Goyer's talents have already been taken advantage of. The guy laid the groundwork for the characterizations and overall story. He's more than adept at that. In terms of the finer details, we should welcome the likes of Terrio. Argo showed fine skill in interweaving various plot threads along with snappy and natural dialog.

I did say that I don't know what his work is. My concern is that it might get...well, silly, which is why I asked if anyone knows about any of his other work.

I'm not judging him. I'm just curious, and also, voicing a concern that there's already too many hands on the project.

By a baseless, he means that the fact the you're judging him without seeing a single piece of his work.

I didn't judge him. I said I was concerned. I didn't trash him (although I did poke at Marvel), nor did I say that he sucked. I didn't suggest that he's a talentless hack, or that he is worthless. That would have been judging him. I voiced a simple concern.

I realize that most people are overjoyed that Goyer isn't "alone" on the project any more. I'm just not as excited, because I am concerned about what direction the film could take. It's a reasonable thing to voice.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Forget the Holidays. It's GoyerFinallyGotACo-Writer day!

If only Joaquin was CONFIRMED.

t: *Crosses fingers*

 

[Marvin]

With the marvelize idea I think there is an implication of fun hokey thor-ish with a hint of cap prancing around a bad guy in an elaborate costume, less real world and more real adventure stuff, more straight forward less complex and grey. A step removed from the Rami world which has it's appeal.
All that contrasted to TDK. Which mos was clearly going for.

With Snyder, these producers, the blade writer and a redemption seeking Affleck coming off of films like The town and gone baby...I doubt this will be marvelized in that sense.
That being said Argo was like a more fun(oceans 11) version of what Paul Greengrass might have done with the material. Maybe that's what's needed here.

All I know is that I hope WB nabs Francis Lawrence for the Wondy solo. Great eye that guy.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I liked Argo, but mostly due to the direction/suspense. The story wasn't anything special, nor the dialogue.

 

[MrsKent26]

If only Joaquin was CONFIRMED.

t: *Crosses fingers*

It's gonna happen. There's magic in the air...