BvS It's always Darkest before The Dawn... Chris Terrio IS the Script Writer

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I liked Argo, but mostly due to the direction/suspense. The story wasn't anything special, nor the dialogue.
I enjoyed the dialogue. It was one of the things I really enjoyed. It was talk-y, so I was glad that I found myself wanting to listen instead of tuning out.

Meh...maybe it's not for everyone, but enjoy it.
 
I enjoyed the dialogue. It was one of the things I really enjoyed. It was talk-y, so I was glad that I found myself wanting to listen instead of tuning out.

Meh...maybe it's not for everyone, but enjoy it.

This film needs some "talk-y." People didn't talk that much in MOS. There was a lot of exposition at times, but not much dialogue.
 
I hope Chris Terrio will build upon what Zack Snyder and David Goyer setup in the MOS universe and present Superman in the proper light. Also to those who think Zack Snyder should be replaced, don't bet it as he's a fan of the mythology especially when it's Superman.

He's writing a draft of an already developed script. Most likely refining stuff that's already laid out and working on dialogue. If superman isn't already presented in a proper light, slim chance his draft will change that. Then again, anything's possible.
 
This film needs some "talk-y." People didn't talk that much in MOS. There was a lot of exposition at times, but not much dialogue.

The scenes between Perry and Lois were probably the best dialogue in the film I thought.
 
The scenes between Perry and Lois were probably the best dialogue in the film I thought.

Me too. And the interrogation scene was good. Goyer wrote some good short exchanges. But they were short and seemed far between at times. Dialogue can be just as thrilling as action if done right.
 
It's not baseless. The more people who get involved in a project, the more likely it is to go off the rails. It could be a brilliant move (what most people seem to think), or it could be a terrible idea that ruins what we already had.

So you know, I'd like this film to build forward from MOS. I'm kind of worried they're going to go backwards into SR territory, or worse yet, go all the way back to Donner films. Blech. No thanks.

You clearly don't have an understanding of how Hollywood works. Many movie has rewrites, or different writers coming in to polish the script. I'm not saying I'm an expert but wow, you're jumping to conclusions to no end. It's quite completely baffling AND naive. Plus you don't even have a compelling reason for your odd stance or fear.
 
This film needs some "talk-y." People didn't talk that much in MOS. There was a lot of exposition at times, but not much dialogue.
One of the biggest weaknesses of the film bar none. I couldn't believe how practically every scene came off like an elongated montage. It was the first time in a long while I actually became very annoyed by a film's editing.

So many moments could have used an extra minute or so between the characters. At least beyond that of simply plodding the story along to its next plot point.
 
You clearly don't have an understanding of how Hollywood works. Many movie has rewrites, or different writers coming in to polish the script. I'm not saying I'm an expert but wow, you're jumping to conclusions to no end. It's quite completely baffling AND naive. Plus you don't even have a compelling reason for your odd stance or fear.

Actually if you look at the basic trap hollywood falls into of having too many cooks in the writing room if you will. It's a fair assumption she raised.

Granted it's seemingly standard practice.
 
He's probably just beefing up the dialogue and certain story elements. That's it. Kinda like what Goyer did with Godzilla for a couple of weeks.

:o:p:D Yay Goyer has a co-writer!
 
I'm glad it isn't just Goyer. There needs to be another set of eyes on this.
 
Agreed...absolutely. I'd like more of that...more natural conversations.

The real strength of those scenes and the writing is that they give the audience all the information they need and frame the characters beautifully without using exposition.

The dialogue shows that though Perry is Lois' boss and mentor and he respects her immensely, he's still constantly frustrated by her actions despite seeing her as a daughter figure.

I really wish that we'd seen one or two more Lois and Perry scenes in the film.
 
Thank you for answering. I just wanted a bit more clarification because I do hear that a lot.

To answer your question, I don't think so. I tend to think they brought him in to improve the dialogue and polish some areas that may need polishing. I don't think he will change the tone they set in MOS. I think that is the tone they want to keep so they can distinguish themselves from Marvel.

No problem! And yay on the reassurances. I want this film to be good, but in a way that is interesting, not insipid. :D

With the marvelize idea I think there is an implication of fun hokey thor-ish with a hint of cap prancing around a bad guy in an elaborate costume, less real world and more real adventure stuff, more straight forward less complex and grey. A step removed from the Rami world which has it's appeal.
All that contrasted to TDK. Which mos was clearly going for.

My dearest Marvin, you know me so well. :woot: That pretty much sums up my biggest worry with this particular 'verse of Superman. It's not just the writers; it's my biggest concern that the higher ups will suddenly decide that this verse needs to be more 'fun', and that it will go too far.

With Snyder, these producers, the blade writer and a redemption seeking Affleck coming off of films like The town and gone baby...I doubt this will be marvelized in that sense.
That being said Argo was like a more fun(oceans 11) version of what Paul Greengrass might have done with the material. Maybe that's what's needed here.

Well, I hope so. I like this MOS verse.

You clearly don't have an understanding of how Hollywood works. Many movie has rewrites, or different writers coming in to polish the script. I'm not saying I'm an expert but wow, you're jumping to conclusions to no end. It's quite completely baffling AND naive. Plus you don't even have a compelling reason for your odd stance or fear.

Dear Sir/Madam,

You are forgiven for not having read all of my excellent posts. If you had, you would understand that I do indeed know that there are many people involved in a script -- I in fact used that very argument with the Goyer detractors, who lay the blame entirely at his feet for various failures in MOS. I also said quite pointedly in another post, just in this very thread, in fact, that my main concern is adding too many perspectives to the film could damage it, not help it.

To sum it up: Yes, I know that there are many revisions, rewrites, and indeed, screenwriters on screen plays. That is why I'm worried that we have yet another one among the other half dozen or so people who have already probably worked on the script.

Baseless.


:o

Just admit that you love me, and all my insane little quirks. :o
 
I do think that too many writers at times does lead to trouble. Perfect example being Cowboys and Aliens. You had like, what, six writers?
 
One of the biggest weaknesses of the film bar none. I couldn't believe how practically every scene came off like an elongated montage. It was the first time in a long while I actually became very annoyed by a film's editing.

So many moments could have used an extra minute or so between the characters. At least beyond that of simply plodding the story along to its next plot point.

Any scene come to mind in particular. Just curious what you are getting at.
For example I immediately thought you were talking about the towel cap scene.
Or the oil rig rescue but there's seemingly plenty of intention in those.
I assume youa re talking about the dialogue scenes?

I just rented a bunch of malick so I have no sense of scale at the moment.
 
The internet is such a funny place. I mean, when this news broke today, I saw so many people, from different websites, just completely jump ship and went into panic mode. Terrio has come in to polish (put the finishing touches on) what already exists. From what I've read, Goyer is quite busy with other DC projects at the moment. I'm pretty positive this is quite a common practice in Hollywood, and does NOT mean that the script is garbage or anything like that.
 
The real strength of those scenes and the writing is that they give the audience all the information they need and frame the characters beautifully without using exposition.

The dialogue shows that though Perry is Lois' boss and mentor and he respects her immensely, he's still constantly frustrated by her actions despite seeing her as a daughter figure.

I really wish that we'd seen one or two more Lois and Perry scenes in the film.
I wanted more Perry and Lois too and I so agree with everything else. That's what I wanted more of in MOS. Some things just felt off.
 
I like Goyer, but his scripts do come across best when a director/another writer adds their own little nuances to it as well. Compare Blade and Blade 2 to Blade 3 for example, were Goyer had total freedom as he directed as well, big difference in quality.

Never saw Argo, but never heard a bad word about it and the script was oscar nommed so this guy coming aboard, even if its only for a polish, is only a good thing in my eyes.
 
I like Goyer, but his scripts do come across best when a director/another writer adds their own little nuances to it as well. Compare Blade and Blade to Blade 3 for example, were Goyer had total freedom as he directed as well, big difference in quality.

Never saw Argo, but never heard a bad word about it and the script
was oscar nommed
so this guy coming aboard, even if its only for a polish, is only a good thing in my eyes.
It was an Oscar winner sir.
 
The internet is such a funny place. I mean, when this news broke today, I saw so many people, from different websites, just completely jump ship and went into panic mode. Terrio has come in to polish (put the finishing touches on) what already exists. From what I've read, Goyer is quite busy with other DC projects at the moment. I'm pretty positive this is quite a common practice in Hollywood, and does NOT mean that the script is garbage or anything like that.

It must not be if they got people like a two time Oscar winner in Ben Affleck and an Oscar winning scribe in Chris Terrio on board to give guild lines/polish some things.
 
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