James Bond In Skyfall - Part 10

[CapedCrusader14]

After watching the first Big 4 Connery films, I can say that Goldfinger is easily my favourite of all of his films and my 2nd favourite Bond film (behind Casino Royale).

 

[Gold Samurai]

Agreed.

Goldfinger is the best Bond movie of the Connery era. In my opinion it's still the best Bond movie of all time. It still has not been topped. I hear Spielberg said it's his favorite Bond movie, too.



It only doesn't work for you personally if you don't think the third movie for each Bond actor was their best. For a lot of people Goldfinger is the best.

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Nearly 50 years later it still often gets hailed as the best one: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...oldfinger-still-stands-out-as-best-007-bunch/

Here over 15'000 Bond fans voted for the Best Bond movie of all time, and Goldfinger came in second place after Casino Royale; http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/interact_poll_results_2012_best_james_bond_film.php3

So it obviously doesn't only work for Moore when it comes to third movies

It's also brosnans favorite movie. It was one of the first movies he saw when he was young

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/Brosnan-Pierce-Brosnan_6003/p/3

"In Ireland, I had been brought up on a diet of old Mother Riley and Norman Wisdom movies, which would not translate to readers in America, but they're black-and-white comedies made here. In the summer of '64, my mother and Bill, my stepfather, took me to the movies and I saw Goldfinger. And here I sat in this cinema, on Putney High Street, with this spectacle, this magical event taking place before my eyes, called James Bond. The music, the women, the shimmering silhouettes of nakedness, and this wonderful woman lying on the bed. Three, four weeks before, I had been in Ireland, in a tiny town, and here I was in the great metropolis, London. Now, maybe the seed was sown there, I don't know, but I thought James Bond was very cool.

 

[DKDetective]

I think the From Russia With Love/Goldfinger debate is more split than you guys are giving it credit. FRWL and GF are the two paradigms of the Bond series. One film is the golden standard for Bond trying to be stylish spy thriller and the other is the standard for making Bond an escapist blockbuster. Both films are arguably equally influential manifestations of Bond lore. I can't remember where its from, but there is an excellent quote from Michael Wilson stating that one of the hardest things for the franchise to do is make another FRWL. They often set out to recapture that spark and end up with "another Thunderball".

Also, note that FRWL and GF are almost tied in that poll linked earlier.

 

[Octoberist]

Agreed.

Goldfinger is the best Bond movie of the Connery era. In my opinion it's still the best Bond movie of all time. It still has not been topped. I hear Spielberg said it's his favorite Bond movie, too.



It only doesn't work for you personally if you don't think the third movie for each Bond actor was their best. For a lot of people Goldfinger is the best.

At 0:25 "For many Bond fans and film historians, Goldfinger is the 007 movie that had it all";

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Nearly 50 years later it still often gets hailed as the best one: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...oldfinger-still-stands-out-as-best-007-bunch/

Here over 15'000 Bond fans voted for the Best Bond movie of all time, and Goldfinger came in second place after Casino Royale; http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/interact_poll_results_2012_best_james_bond_film.php3

So it obviously doesn't only work for Moore when it comes to third movies

Fair enough. If that's the case then I don't TWINE works in the theory. If Skyfall lives up to the hype, then TWINE will be the black sheep. I'm not saying that TWINE is horrible but it's blah to me.

 

[The Joker]

It's also brosnans favorite movie. It was one of the first movies he saw when he was young

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/Brosnan-Pierce-Brosnan_6003/p/3

Yes, I remember Brosnan saying that in interviews before. Have any of the other Bond actors ever said what their favorite Bond movie is?

Richard Kiel who plays Jaws was interviewed recently in relation to the new Bond game, 007 Legends. He said his favorite Bond movie is Goldfinger, too.

Fair enough. If that's the case then I don't TWINE works in the theory. If Skyfall lives up to the hype, then TWINE will be the black sheep. I'm not saying that TWINE is horrible but it's blah to me.

Yeah, I don't have much love for TWINE either. Sophie Marceau was the best thing in it.

 

[Dragon_316ca]

Some twitter reaction from tonight:

@colliderfrosty

Wow. Just wow.#SKYFALL is one of the best James Bond movies and one of the best films this year.
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Katey Rich

Skyfall has it. Everything. I straight-up loved it.
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Mike Sampson

So #Skyfall is very much a win. Classic Bond yet still feels incredibly fresh. Bardem is absolutely outrageous.
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@ericwalkuski

Skyfall is pretty terrific. Javier Bardem is utterly amazing.
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@StaxIGN

Yes, it's true. Skyfall is the greatest Bond film ever. It lives up to the hype. It also deserves a Best Pic nom and a nom for Bardem.

If Nolan made Batman films like Bond then Skyfall at times feels like the Batman trilogy in one Bond movie.
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[Quasimod0]

ign says its the best bond film yet. awesome

 

[OptimusPrime114]

Just bought TND on Blu-ray at Target.

 

[the dmg]

I need the new Bond Collection BD box set. It's calling to me.

 

[Gold Samurai]

So what are we looking at in terms of box office returns?

 

[Solidus]

So what are we looking at in terms of box office returns?

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[CapedCrusader14]

If Nolan made Batman films like Bond then Skyfall at times feels like the Batman trilogy in one Bond movie.

My body is ready.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I think the From Russia With Love/Goldfinger debate is more split than you guys are giving it credit. FRWL and GF are the two paradigms of the Bond series. One film is the golden standard for Bond trying to be stylish spy thriller and the other is the standard for making Bond an escapist blockbuster. Both films are arguably equally influential manifestations of Bond lore. I can't remember where its from, but there is an excellent quote from Michael Wilson stating that one of the hardest things for the franchise to do is make another FRWL. They often set out to recapture that spark and end up with "another Thunderball".

Also, note that FRWL and GF are almost tied in that poll linked earlier.

It just goes to show how great Connery was that both camps have the best Bond film being one of his. He was far and away the best Bond.

 

[Gold Samurai]

If Nolan made Batman films like Bond then Skyfall at times feels like the Batman trilogy in one Bond movie.

I knew it!

 

[jmc]

Man, November can't come soon enough.

 

[Dave McFly]

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which music queue from which 007 film is that playing when Bond and M drive the DB5 out of that garage, I know I have heard it before but I have been wracking my brain but no luck.

 

[Sawyer]

The World Is Not Enough I like, but it's Brosnan's third best, so the theory doesn't work for him.

Second.

 

[AnneFan]

which music queue from which 007 film is that playing when Bond and M drive the DB5 out of that garage, I know I have heard it before but I have been wracking my brain but no luck.

'Hovercraft Chase' from David Arnold's Die Another Day.

 

[Dave McFly]

'Hovercraft Chase' from David Arnold's Die Another Day.

THANK YOU!

*offers a cold fizzy beverage of your choice*

t:

 

[Ajendo]

Goldfinger is overrated and is only recognised as such simply because the Americans slept on Dr.No and FRWL and only recognised Bond once GF came out. It's a good film but IMO it's not Connery's best, it's nit the best Bond film abd in fact, the film's recognition comes from Frobe's turn as GF himself, the name puddy galore, the db5, jill's golden body, oddjob, fortnox set abd of course Barry/Bassey.

Like I said, GF's a good film but it's painfully overrated. FRWL and TB are superior.

As for Nolan. Nolan's batman films and Inception have been influenced by his love and passion for Bond. Mendes is a great film maker in his own right and he knows wtf he's talking about when it comes to Bond and he has clearly made a Bond film that is what's right for this era.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

I don't agree that it's overrated. I've found in my recent viewings of DN, FRWL and TB that they all suffer with one main problem. Pacing. I feel that they all have a tendency to drag and pull me out of interest as to what's going on (FRWL is much better in it's pacing than DN and TB though). With Goldfinger, everything just seems to click and work perfectly.

 

[regwec]

I wonder if Skyfall will play into Berenice's Asian heritage. Her character's make-up makes her look more Eurasian along with her being in China. It has to be somewhat intentional right?

I can bet anyone who is not familiar with her as an actress will think she's part Asian right away.

Her character's name is French, though. I doubt her ethnicity is really going to be an important factor. I expect she will play a beautiful exotic woman who Bond meets in an attractive location, but nothing more specific.

The "3rd movie is best" thing just can't be argued successfully for the Bond franchise, because the data is totally insufficient. It is probably broadly agreed that TSWLM was Moore's best, though some people are bound to prefer FYEO or LALD. More people saw and remembered GF than Connery's other efforts, though I maintain that FRWL is the better movie, and many agree. TWINE is pants, apart from the *****-inducing Sophie Marcaeu. Assuming Skyfall will be Craig's best is a bit cynical considering that he is signed for five films. Are you all willing to state now that the next two will be disappointments? And, most significantly, neither Lazenby or Dalton did three Bond films; so the "rule" is no rule at all since it cannot be exhaustively analysed. You can only discuss a "rule" about Bond actors' debut films, since one is the lowest common number of movies per actor.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I agree that TB and Dr. No have pacing issues, but at least with TB even the bit that lag a bit are interesting for the most part. Goldfinger races by at a clip, but it also feels quite generic at times. The laser approaching Bond's family jewels never really did it for and i am not really a fan of any of the supporting cast outside of Oddjob. With FRWL and TB I feel engrossed in the goings on of pretty much every involved. There are characters like Grant, Klebb, Tatiana, Volpe, Largo, Domino to wonder, fear and care about.

Still, Goldfinger is a very good film, but I do agree it is overrated in comparison to other Bond films.

I'd rank Connery's films as such.

1. FRWL
2. Thunderball
3. Goldfinger
4. Dr. No
5. YOLT
6. DAF

It just goes to show how great Connery was that both camps have the best Bond film being one of his. He was far and away the best Bond.

Apparently Craig just made the Best Bond ever, after already having the best Bond ever.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

I think Grant is actually my favourite villain from the Connery films. As soon as he gets on that train with Bond, I'm immediately impressed by him. Really loved his character.

I personally found Largo to be a boring villain. I never feared the guy or found him that impressive.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Her character's name is French, though. I doubt her ethnicity is really going to be an important factor. I expect she will play a beautiful exotic woman who Bond meets in an attractive location, but nothing more specific.

The "3rd movie is best" thing just can't be argued successfully for the Bond franchise, because the data is totally insufficient. It is probably broadly agreed that TSWLM was Moore's best, though some people are bound to prefer FYEO or LALD. More people saw and remembered GF than Connery's other efforts, though I maintain that FRWL is the better movie, and many agree. TWINE is pants, apart from the *****-inducing Sophie Marcaeu. Assuming Skyfall will be Craig's best is a bit cynical considering that he is signed for five films. Are you all willing to state now that the next two will be disappointments? And, most significantly, neither Lazenby or Dalton did three Bond films; so the "rule" is no rule at all since it cannot be exhaustively analysed. You can only discuss a "rule" about Bond actors' debut films, since one is the lowest common number of movies per actor.

It discounts how awesome FRWL, Casino Royale, GoldenEye and OHMSS were. Connery's second, Craig's first, Brosnan's first and Lazenby's one and only. The rule really only seems to apply to Moore.