Jason Momoa is Arthur Curry/Aquaman

[charl_huntress]

Imagine if Aquaman unleashed a school of candiru fish on someone. That would just be cruel.

lol...so I had no idea what a candiru fish was so I looked it up and came across an intersting youtube.


Marc....dude...you are cruel to suggest Aquaman would do that...lol

 

[The Guard]

And this is why I just laugh when someone parrots the old "Aquaman is lame" thing.

Nope, most people just lack knowledge of the character and imagination.

 

[charl_huntress]

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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:04 amPost subject: What's the Deal with Folks Not Liking Aquaman?

Okay, one of my friends was saying that Aquaman is...well...for lack of any better word...garbage. He went on and on about how corny he is, and how most comic geeks/DCAU geeks/fanboys/fangirls don't like him. I never really knew this. I mean, I don't think Aquaman is the shiznit like I know Superman is, but I didn't think he was that disrespected in the DC universe. I've always thought the ability to talk to fish was pretty cool, though I was never jazzed by the water hand. I don't like the orange and green, but hey...it's a costume and swimsuit to boot!

Since the poor hero's first prime time show was axed without a second thought, and considering his limited appearance on JL/JLU...as well as his...uhhh...very talked about appearance on STAS. I'd thought I'd ask what is the deal with people not liking Aquaman?

Please don't flame and set some fanboy/gurl off...I just want to know why he get so little respect considering he's been around a long time. Is it because he has a limited base of operation? Is it the green and orange suit?

What is the deal?

Let's talk about this....

 

[charl_huntress]

The brillance of ARM:


MY GOD you guys need some comic book schooling as to perhaps the most dangerous and versatile character in the DCU AND I'm not talking about Kurt Busiek's new knockoff of JLU's "Conan of the Sea" animated brilliance.


Aquaman has only Wonder Woman in sharing the rarest of distinctions in all of comics of characters that possess massive super strength (over 60 tons), speed, agility, martial arts, telepathy (partial human) , battle tact and leadership in the same package.

I will now provide scans of just what Aquaman can do if the writer has his poo together because I'm so enraged by the sheer humanoid Superfriends ignorance of this thread that I may say something offensive and virtiolic and I'll feel bad about in two weeks. You are warned if you dis Aquaman you'll have me to contend with and I come to the table with a virtual bible of knowledge, Aqua-rage, and hardcopy proof from decades.

 

[charl_huntress]

Aquaman vs Despero in a Geoff Johns JLA of 2006 (after Despero just got the better of J'onn)

Aquaman has a great showing against Despero.
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[Llama_Shepherd]

Sea animals are the only ones allowed. Anyone hating on telling killer whales and sharks to help them out clearly don't understand Aquaman's awesomeness.

Aquaman shouldn't be able to telepathically communicate with any animal. Everything else sounded cool.

Unfortunately Aquaman disagrees. He can only use the parts of the brain that evolved from marine life, but he can still do it:

 

[marcvader]

I hate when writers do these type of things.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

What? Write characters well? Because that writer always gets critical acclaim with every character he writes. That series was praised for every issue written, and consistently high selling (Always their #1 or #2 title) when DC was pretty much in the crapper.

 

[marcvader]

No, I hate when writers add powers and abilities like that. It never ends. Characters get more and more powerful with each successive writer trying to outdo the next.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

No they don't. That series ended with Superman absorbing the primordial Anti-Sun of the Old Gods, a weapon that even the New Gods just accepted would kill them. Next time he appeared he was taken down with a small piece of Kryptonite.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Unfortunately Aquaman disagrees. He can only use the parts of the brain that evolved from marine life, but he can still do it:

Just because some writers have done that doesn't mean that Aquaman should be able to. Give him some barriers on his abilities for an actual movie. Humans I can live with, but him being able to do it with literally any animal (land or sea) is too much. Aquaman being able to do it with sea creatures is all that I need. Anything else seems overpowered and unnecessary.

Some writers had Superman able to blow away entire solar systems just from a sneeze. Doesn't mean he should be able to do it in a movie.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I wasn't exactly implying Aquaman should make a Leopard or Elephant have a seizure for poops and giggles. I only ever brought it up so that he could use it against the antagonist (or lackeys).

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

No, I hate when writers add powers and abilities like that. It never ends. Characters get more and more powerful with each successive writer trying to outdo the next.

Exactly, there's a point when a characters' abilities can get too ridiculous depending on a writer. It doesn't matter if it gets critical acclaim. The story and characters may be fantastic, but that doesn't mean their abilities were depicted the best way.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I wasn't exactly implying Aquaman should make a Leopard or Elephant have a seizure for poops and giggles. I only ever brought it up so that he could use it against the antagonist (or lackeys).

Your earlier post:

Telepathy- This doesn't just have to be fish. It's all life forms that evolved from animals that dwelt in the sea. So, all animals. He can induce seizures in people, for example. Not to mention the sea life he can summon doesn't need to just be dolphins. He can summon 50 metre sharks, the Biblical Behemoth, Kraken, Cthulu. You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger darling.

That's why I disagreed. You made it sound like you want him to telepathically command land animals exactly like he does to the sea creatures.

It's not about him being able to just do it for poops and giggles. It's about him being able to do it period. I don't want him telepathically commanding literally any animal, it just doesn't seem like Aquaman to me. More like Animal Man. Hope they don't have that version in the movie.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Your earlier post:



That's why I disagreed. You made it sound like you want him to telepathically command land animals exactly like he does to the sea creatures.

It's not about him being able to just do it for poops and giggles. It's about him being able to do it period. I don't want him telepathically commanding literally any animal, it just doesn't seem like Aquaman to me. More like Animal Man. Hope they don't have that version in the movie.

He's telepathic. He can manipulate areas of the brain. Areas that are from marine life. He can only command marine life to do his bidding because he is their King and they respect that. He never "talks" to them in any way. You may not like it, but that is Aquaman's power.

Personally, I don't care for Superman being depicted as anything less than what he is: a modern day interpretation of the archetypal sun god myth. Same for Batman, the ultimate secular human that rigorously prepares his body and mind for every eventuality.

For me, The Justice League should be depicted as a modern day pantheon of gods. Sitting in the castle in the heavens watching over the world.

But if the movie doesn't do that, I'm not going to complain. But I will be disappointed.

 

[marcvader]

He's telepathic. He can manipulate areas of the brain. Areas that are from marine life. He can only command marine life to do his bidding because he is their King and they respect that. He never "talks" to them in any way. You may not like it, but that is Aquaman's power.

I don't think anyone has any issues with this. It's when you say any animal because they evolved from the sea is what some of us here are taking issues with. He can talk, command, manipulate, whatever, that's fine as long as they are marine animals. I'm fine with marine plantlife as well for that matter.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

He's telepathic. He can manipulate areas of the brain. Areas that are from marine life. He can only command marine life to do his bidding because he is their King and they respect that. He never "talks" to them in any way. You may not like it, but that is Aquaman's power.

Personally, I don't care for Superman being depicted as anything less than what he is: a modern day interpretation of the archetypal sun god myth. Same for Batman, the ultimate secular human that rigorously prepares his body and mind for every eventuality.

For me, The Justice League should be depicted as a modern day pantheon of gods. Sitting in the castle in the heavens watching over the world.

But if the movie doesn't do that, I'm not going to complain. But I will be disappointed.

Aquaman has been able to forcibly command sea life to do what he wanted. The newest version has him "telepathically pushing" them to help him out. Where did I say he talked to them? Aquaman does not talk to fish.

I was saying the ability to telepathically push literally any animal seemed more like something Animal Man would do. That's probably why the newest version of Aquaman doesn't have him doing it. Same as how the more recent versions of Superman don't have him sneezing away entire solar systems. Just because the JL are often referred to as Gods(which I love) does not mean they shouldn't have barriers on their abilities.

I don't think anyone has any issues with this. It's when you say any animal because they evolved from the sea is what some of us here are taking issues with. He can talk, command, manipulate, whatever, that's fine as long as they are marine animals. I'm fine with marine plantlife as well for that matter.

^This.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Aquaman has been able to forcibly command sea life to do what he wanted. Where did I say he talked to them? Aquaman does not talk to fish.

Some people thinks he speaks to them is all. Glad you're not one of them.

I was saying the ability to telepathically push literally any animal seemed more like something Animal Man would do.That's probably why the newest version of Aquaman doesn't have him doing it.

Allow me to rephrase then:

Aquaman, as King of Atlantis can telepathically command all marine life. However, as a telepath, he can manipulate the marine features of any brain.

Same as how the more recent versions of Superman don't have him sneezing away entire solar systems.

No he hasn't. That was fifty years ago.

Just because the JL are often referred to as Gods(which I love) does not mean they shouldn't have barriers on their abilities.

I have no problem with limits. To an extent. But if you do it too much they will end up facing a problem that they just have to punch into submission. Which I find absolutely preposterous, unbefitting and downright stupid. This is a world of gods, their true strength doesn't come from their powers, but from their belief, fortitude and desire to help people.

If you haven't, I really, really would suggest reading JLA v3 #1-41.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Some people thinks he speaks to them is all. Glad you're not one of them.



Allow me to rephrase then:

Aquaman, as King of Atlantis can telepathically command all marine life. However, as a telepath, he can manipulate the marine features of any brain.

Which is what I still don't agree with. Any brain(any animal) is too much. I don't want to see Aquaman telepathically pushing land animals to aid him like he does with sea creatures.

No he hasn't. That was fifty years ago.

Indeed. Some abilities are best left in the past.

I have no problem with limits. To an extent. But if you do it too much they will end up facing a problem that they just have to punch into submission. Which I find absolutely preposterous, unbefitting and downright stupid. This is a world of gods, their true strength doesn't come from their powers, but from their belief, fortitude and desire to help people.

If you haven't, I really, really would suggest reading JLA v3 #1-41.

This wouldn't be too much. Aquaman being able to telepathically push any animal is too much. He still retains his godlike abilities even without that one(which I feel is unnecessary). He doesn't need to punch something or someone into submission because there's still so many other things that he could do instead. I understand what you're saying about their belief, fortitude, etc. but that isn't the point of our discussion. We were discussing Aquaman's powers and what he should/shouldn't be able to do.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I'm not saying he can push any animal. He goes in to detail with this in the New 52 series which people seem to like, though I can't understand why. He can do it fish because they are too primitive to know otherwise. Dolphins/Whales etc recognise him as their king.

That's it. They are the only animals he can control. Primitive life like fish and those under his dominion.

But he can induce seizures in people because a portion of our brain was inherited from fish.

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it gone. I'd include it because it's friggin' awesome. For me, their is no such thing as overpowered, which is why I brought up why their real strength isn't how hard you punch something. Stories like All-Star Superman, Lucifer, Sandman, JLA, Grant Morrison's Batman and Mark Waid's Flash are amazing.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I'm not saying he can push any animal. He goes in to detail with this in the New 52 series which people seem to like, though I can't understand why. He can do it fish because they are too primitive to know otherwise. Dolphins/Whales etc recognise him as their king.

That's it. They are the only animals he can control. Primitive life like fish and those under his dominion.

But he can induce seizures in people because a portion of our brain was inherited from fish.

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it gone. I'd include it because it's friggin' awesome. For me, their is no such thing as overpowered. Stories like All-Star Superman, Lucifer, Sandman, JLA, Grant Morrison's Batman and Mark Waid's Flash are amazing.

That isn't what I'm talking about. Your earlier comment was about him telepathically pushing all animals. I pulled it up again once, and I don't feel like doing it again. Just scroll up and read your post that I quoted, I even put the words in bold. If you don't want him telepathically pushing land animals like he does with sea creatures, then I agree. However, your earlier post didn't say that.

And if there's no such thing as overpowered to you, then no offense.. but I'm glad you aren't the one calling the shots.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

That isn't what I'm talking about. Your earlier comment was about him telepathically pushing all animals. I pulled it up again once, and I don't feel like doing it again. Just scroll up and read your post that I quoted, I even put the words in bold. If you don't want him telepathically pushing land animals like he does with sea creatures, then I agree. However, your earlier post didn't say that.

Which is why I corrected it.

And if there's no such thing as overpowered to you, then no offense.. but I'm glad you aren't the one calling the shots.

It's okay, I prefer substance over spectacle. Which is why I can appreciate those stories.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Which is why I corrected it.

That's good, because before it wasn't making much sense.

It's okay, I prefer substance over spectacle. Which is why I can appreciate those stories.

Substance isn't what we were discussing, though. It was about his abilities. I'll have to read those JL issues you recommended one of these days.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

You should also read All-Star Superman, Grant Morrison's Batman, Mark Waid's Flash.

They're all mega-powerful, but it works, because the stories are just so glorious.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I've only seen the animated version of All-Star Superman and it was magnificent. Even the little things, like the relationship he had with his mother, were touching. I'll see if I can find the others at Barnes & Nobles or a local comic book shop.