BvS Jesse Eisenberg IS Lex Luthor - Part 1

[Wise]

And in some ways he isn't a villain, very much like Lex.

Agreed. Although i'd compare Ozymandius more to Ra's Al Ghul. They have the power and the means to actually save humanity. They see that the ends do justify the means when the other alternative is man's extinction.

With Ozymandius it's the threat of nuclear war.

With Al Ghul it has more to do with him being 600 years old and witnessing within a century mankind begin it's downward spiral towards famine, overpopulation and extinction.

 

[Wise]

I don't understand how a lot of people seem to love the idea of a weedy skinny Lex but then say how he needs to bulk up and get bigger.

Doesn't that defeat the point of casting Eisenberg in the first place?

 

[matt47]

For people who like the casting of Eisenberg as Lex, do you actually like this choice, or do you have faith that the movie will make it work somehow?

I don't really know how I feel about the casting yet. Because I haven't really heard anything about how this Lex will be portrayed.

 

[DigificWriter]

For people who like the casting of Eisenberg as Lex, do you actually like this choice, or do you have faith that the movie will make it work somehow?

I genuinely like the choice. I think Eisenberg is a very good actor with phenomenal range who can play the character any number of different ways. I also like that Snyder went with an actor who is totally unlike the actors most people had pegged for the role because it says 'This is a very different story than you've seen before', which is good.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

For people who like the casting of Eisenberg as Lex, do you actually like this choice, or do you have faith that the movie will make it work somehow?

I like Eisenberg, and I have faith in the film...

 

[Ultra Nolanite]

For people who like the casting of Eisenberg as Lex, do you actually like this choice, or do you have faith that the movie will make it work somehow?

I support the direction I hope they're gonna take, which is different from the Lex from the comics and DCAU.

It will mean that to this day we still haven't gotten THAT Lex on the big screen yet, which is a shame. Smallvile Lex came closest.

But what I hope they're gonna do with Lex COULD be equally amazing.

It'll be refreshing to say the least, what other CBM is doing this ?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I pretend to see the good side?

I'm thrilled about the production designer, the writer, the DOP. Even Snyder. I love Watchmen and 300 and Dawn of the Dead.

I'm gonna go see this film because I think it'll look visually stunning. Just like how MoS looked.

But I'm not happy about Superman being robbed of his chance to have his own Spiderman 2 or The Dark Knight because Warner Brothers missed the shared universe train years ago and are scrambling to catch up.

Affleck. Yes I openly admit that bothers me. Mainly it's his age and voice.

Gadot? I challenge you to find a post where i criticise her casting.

It's just Eisenberg and Affleck that I'm not on board with.

I have a right to be here and debate my concerns. People said I was a basher for voicing my concerns about Parralax being in Green Lantern's origin story and Reynolds being cast as Hal.

I also never complained about Ledger because I saw how he could play a scrappy Australian roughneck and then an English knight and a homosexual cowboy. I was behind that.

I don't dislike Affleck or Eisenberg as actors. I even like seeing them in roles.

I just don't see them being capable of playing the characters that I love.

Okay I can get you now, you just seemed really negative to me at first.

I guess you could say I'm trying to look on the brightside after the crushing blow of us not getting a proper sequel. I went from being disappointed, to pissed off and then I calmed down and went into cautiously optimistic mode and that's where I am now. I have plenty of complaints and concerns but I perfer to be postive right now unless something just horrible happens.

Regarding the casting; I like Snyder's casting 85% of the time so that isn't something I'm too worried about. I figure with Gadot that despite her lack of credits she blew Snyder n crew away with her audition. Affleck is...weird but he's an okay actor so yeah I'm giving it a shot and he brought a real screenwriter with him so yay. Eisenberg is a good actor and I wanted to see a younger and different Lex so why the hell not?

 

[Nemeres]

And in some ways he isn't a villain, very much like Lex.

I'd love it if they played up that angle. It seems like it, from the description in the press release.

 

[7heBoss]

And in some ways he isn't a villain, very much like Lex.

Yeah, that is why i was saying they both straddle that line between good and evil. I feel as though the best villains are the ones you can empathize with. Magneto and Ozy are two of my favorite movie villains and it is because they aren't evil for the sake of being evil, they just see things differently than the "heroes" do.

In the current run of Forever Evil, Lex isn't siding with the Villains. He is more of a Protagonist

 

[KingKane88]

I'm one of those who voted "I don't care", but I do care! I simply have no opinion on this man, simply because I never seen his acting chops. I feel a more appropriate 3rd voting pick would have been "Not sure" or "I'll deal with it", or " I'll wait and see", considering I'm sure many of us here never even heard of the guy.

The thing that struck me first was how young he is, he looks like a boy! But then my second obvious thought was "Hmm, his age kinda tells us a lot about what direction they are taking the story of Lex in".

With that said, I have no problem with the casting, there is obviously some major reasoning behind this casting or they would not have made it. I'm honestly more intrigued then anything right now, it is a very interesting choice.

The more I think about it though, it makes me happy. I personally see a young, immature, spoiled (yet extremely intelligent) tantrum throwing Lex here that is use to getting his way, and if he does not, hell will brake loose (The man has money, so he can make that happen ).

Just my 2 cents.

BTW, thats pretty awesome that he has had awards thrown his way for his acting chops already, I'm pretty confident in this kid, I think he and WE are gonna be just fine with this choice!

 

[Herolee10]

How would you guys feel if he shaved his head but kept the growing beard/goatee? Makes him look older imho.

 

[Fizicks]

Yea, now that I think about it, a huge part of why he looks so young is because of his hair. Shave it off and he looks quite a bit older.

 

[craigdbfan]

If he shaves his head then he shaves everything. He has a strong enough jaw that he can actually complete the modern day Lex Luthor quite well.

If he gains some weight (not necessarily muscle) then that would give him some age presence.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The picture of Jesse bald sells me on this. Sorry, I just see how this could work in a way that is totally non campy. Does that mean Jesse and Zack and David are going to pull this off? No, there's no guarantee of that. But I can see what they might be going for.

 

[regwec]

I don't understand how a lot of people seem to love the idea of a weedy skinny Lex but then say how he needs to bulk up and get bigger.

Doesn't that defeat the point of casting Eisenberg in the first place?

It appears to have become the perception lately that every fictional character has to have a He Man physique. I am waiting for the day when an actor is next cast as The Scarecrow: I'll bet you $1 that someone will declare that they need to "bulk up".

If he shaves his head then he shaves everything. He has a strong enough jaw that he can actually complete the modern day Lex Luthor quite well.

I agree with that. His facial structure is very good for the role. I really would recommend that he be bald, however, as that is the character's sole visual signifier. If he resembles the classic Lex, much of the whining will die down.

 

[Herolee10]

Well actors have a way of transforming themselves for their roles. Heck, I would have never thought that Henry could look like this and then look like Superman years later.lol

 

[matt47]

The only thing that sorta bugs me about the casting is his voice...not really "Lex"

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Good Zod in the Zone... That's a terrible look for Cavil. Is that hair supposed to be radioactive or what?

 

[sf2]

well, definitely new and unexpected.
hopefully he will make it and be a cool surprise.

 

[KingKane88]

Yea, now that I think about it, a huge part of why he looks so young is because of his hair. Shave it off and he looks quite a bit older.

Absolutely.

I am 32 and am receding just a bit, and I can tell you I am told that with a hat on or a bandana on (which I do wear alot) that I looks 21 (two guys behind the counter at a liquor store just last year thought I was 17 and accused me of using a Fake ID!), with it off I look my age, even though I shave my head. It's a fact, hair equals youth, a bald head shows age or signifies it.

Not sure if you ever seen the show "Dual Survivor" on the Discovery Channel, but the new guy "Joe Teti" I honestly thought he was in his early 30's when they first showed him wearing a hat, but my lord does he look his age once he takes that hat off, he looks late 40's early 50's simply because of balding, and this has nothing to do with wrinkles.

Shave the man's head and were fine

 

[BH/HHH]

Yeah, that is why i was saying they both straddle that line between good and evil. I feel as though the best villains are the ones you can empathize with. Magneto and Ozy are two of my favorite movie villains and it is because they aren't evil for the sake of being evil, they just see things differently than the "heroes" do.

In the current run of Forever Evil, Lex isn't siding with the Villains. He is more of a Protagonist

Definitely

 

[sf2]

For people who like the casting of Eisenberg as Lex, do you actually like this choice, or do you have faith that the movie will make it work somehow?

i guess no one with a sane mind would suggest Eisenberg for the role of Lex. so i guess no one would like the choice. so mostly having faith. it's definitely unexpected.

 

[BH/HHH]

Agreed. Although i'd compare Ozymandius more to Ra's Al Ghul. They have the power and the means to actually save humanity. They see that the ends do justify the means when the other alternative is man's extinction.

With Ozymandius it's the threat of nuclear war.

With Al Ghul it has more to do with him being 600 years old and witnessing within a century mankind begin it's downward spiral towards famine, overpopulation and extinction.

Yeah, what they're doing they ultimately believe is for the good of everyone.

I'd love it if they played up that angle. It seems like it, from the description in the press release.

Agreed

 

[Bangarang]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFFtpd8VNN0

I can see him saying something along the lines of this ^^^ to superman's face. Completely telling him off, humiliating him, or even threatening his family, lois, etc.

They cut to a shot of Supes on the verge of snapping with anger, and Lex just says "What? Are you going to kill me too?"

This could be a really interesting angle. Sure he's not physically imposing (truth be told I wouldn't mind if he gained a little weight or muscle but that's mostly due to a desire to have him look closer in age to Cavill) but he could be much more. Clark's greatest enemy and threat to everything he loves is completely untouchable despite all of Superman's powers and abilities.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

^This guy gets it.