BvS Jesse Eisenberg IS Lex Luthor - - Part 11

I thought Jesse was great as Lex.
 
It did, but his nervous mmmmmmm's got annoying the most.

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I loved when he gloated about Superman being down on his knees before him. That was great.
 
The more I think about this Lex, the more I think I actually loved it. They really nailed the most important aspect of the character - why he hates Superman.
 
The more I think about this Lex, the more I think I actually loved it. They really nailed the most important aspect of the character - why he hates Superman.

Yeah, this part they really nailed. I can't wait to see where Lex goes from here. (I'm really hoping his rumored secret role in Suicide Squad is true)
 
I can understand the criticism... but, for me, he was such a delight to watch.
There's no doubting Lex was tailored to fit Jesse and not the other way round, and that was a huge gamble on everybody involved, which either has or hasn't paid off regarding opinions.
Away from here, on my FB, I saw so much praise being heaped on Jesse's Lex and somebody actually going as far as to say that he was the best actor in the entire film.
 
They really needed to keep him a more low key figure. Imagine the scenes if he was more unattainable in his gigantic skyscraper. For example, they find some ties to Lexcorp on some things, but no evidence. This was also an introduction for Lex, let's not forget.

How great if just some tasteful scenes with a confident commanding TAS/or Rosenbaum corporate inspired Lex. Even Jesse's hipster Lex but confident and not quirky with a little corporate in him. Superman just flew to his window and Lex first greets him with, "Typically you need to make an appointment with my secretary..." and Superman were to ask, "Did you know what your scientists were doing?!" to which he could respond very confidently and self assured, "I have many people working for me Superman. I can't be blamed for every problem in the world. Next time, make an appointment."

No accountability, and plenty of workers under him to take the fall as he pulls the strings. A confident Lex like that, without snagging all the screentime for this introductory movie with him in it. :up:
 
Loved him as Lex. And the future movies he is sure to be more crazy.
 
I loved him as Lex. Best actor in the movie IMO. Not sure if I think he's better than Rosenbaum though - he was so good.
 
He definitely wasn't, which is what I was expecting going in. But he was very, very sinister if you pay close attention to his mannerisms & expressions. Like whenever he dealt with the sinister.

I may get flak for this but I'll take this rendition of Lex over Hackman's because he actually came off as a real villain here. Not one just doing something to garner him more money.

Truly cannot wait to see how the character evolves over the course of the DCEU.

He was definitely better than Hackman IMO.
 
This Lex was just too freakin' daffy to be taken seriously. I would have preferred something more along the lines of Joaquin Phoenix channeling a character like Commodus - who was similarly insecure.
 
I can understand the criticism... but, for me, he was such a delight to watch.
There's no doubting Lex was tailored to fit Jesse and not the other way round, and that was a huge gamble on everybody involved, which either has or hasn't paid off regarding opinions.
Away from here, on my FB, I saw so much praise being heaped on Jesse's Lex and somebody actually going as far as to say that he was the best actor in the entire film.

I agree, most people seem to like his performance, Jesse is a great actor, he doesn't leave you indifferent. He's the best Lex Luthor by far IMO, a sociopathic manipulative genius that wanted to kill Superman and got it done (with Doomsday), not many villains are this good. Gene Hackman was too campy and Kevin Spacey's plans were just stupid and not believable. Michael Rosenbaum's Lex was good for the most part, but him blaming Clark for not trusting him and marrying Lana ruined the character a bit, then his memory was wiped out in the Smallville finale, destroying the character even more, a real shame.
 
I agree, most people seem to like his performance, Jesse is a great actor, he doesn't leave you indifferent. He's the best Lex Luthor by far IMO, a sociopathic manipulative genius that wanted to kill Superman and got it done (with Doomsday), not many villains are this good. Gene Hackman was too campy and Kevin Spacey's plans were just stupid and not believable. Michael Rosenbaum's Lex was good for the most part, but him blaming Clark for not trusting him and marrying Lana ruined the character a bit, then his memory was wiped out in the Smallville finale, destroying the character even more, a real shame.

You don't think at the heart of it - creating Doomsday was a particularly stupid idea? What was the end game there for Lex? Doomsday would have destroyed anything and everything on Earth - including him.
 
Gonna go ahead and say it, I thought Eisenberg stole the show. I felt he was legitimately scary and a threat. more then I can say for most villains, especially in comic book movies
 
i was skeptical but i loved lex even tho his motivations were thin

thought jesse did great
 
I sense there is another crazy, religious theme Lex liked to spout that went into the thought process of creating Doomsday... It was created to kill God if Man would not... and Doomsday shooting fire from his mouth, was symbolic of the Devil's preached form of the dragon stated in the bible...

It's not just a reanimated Zod... Lex gave his own blood, essentially becoming one with the destructive beast.
At the point of releasing Doomsday, Lex hit self-destruct, because he could not kill God/Jesus. Lex's frustration, anger and hatred almost caused the world to be destroyed, to simply get back at those more powerful than him... Satan hated God for his authority and vowed to destroy the world he created.

In that scene, it was Lex who was the Devil, not Doomsday... Doomsday was simply a manifestation of Lex's many destructive and self-destructive issues.

That's my interpretation anyway :p
 
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This Lex was just too freakin' daffy to be taken seriously. I would have preferred something more along the lines of Joaquin Phoenix channeling a character like Commodus - who was similarly insecure.

Something along that line. Lex can have an edge, maybe slightly more humorous than most villains, but he can't be a high pitched, squealing caricature of your typical comic book psychotic villain. I always think the definitive Lex plays out with a calm, cool psychosis, not a frenzied one.
 
A great highlight of the film for me was that on top of Lex's usual self regard (which... ALWAYS gets the character into trouble and is as much a reason why his plans fail as the heroes that use that weakness to thwart him) Jesse's Lex here made me feel that he really was capable of anything to get what he wants and to complete any task he set his mind on... And that IS in the wheelhouse of the character and IS a trait the unhinged would have.

I know people have a problem with the part at the party where he speaks to everyone but I took it that he was coming undone already and the things he spoke about there were revealing to the character and his world view. That's me though. YMMV.
 
I didn't think Luthor worked in this movie at all. I did not get his motivation, did not get why he was doing most of the things he was doing other than he was crazy and evil. And the performance was just annoying to me. I'm all for trying new things with this stuff and I have to give them credit for thinking outside the box but it didn't feel like Luthor or even a particularly compelling character. It felt more like the Joker with the random acts of destruction and the, uh, hyperactivity. And the allusions to Darkseid were tacked on and didn't need to be there.

I really missed the suave, deceptive Lex who could appear as a political and economic leader while still being consumed with jealously and egomania. One whose history with Clark and kryptonite (his head being shaved in prison was lame) leads him naturally towards villainy.
 
Something along that line. Lex can have an edge, maybe slightly more humorous than most villains, but he can't be a high pitched, squealing caricature of your typical comic book psychotic villain. I always think the definitive Lex plays out with a calm, cool psychosis, not a frenzied one.

I'd love for you to explain to me how an individual can be "calmly" and "coolly" psychotic, please.
 
Oh yeah... I was also very please they didn't go with Lex and Superman having a history together. That stuff has never worked for me.
 

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