BvS Jesse Eisenberg IS Lex Luthor - - Part 11

[craigaat]

Hands down the best movie Luthor

 

[titansupes]

It's certainly, certainly not my favourite Luthor, as a look or performance. But-- I thought he was one twisted, evil son of a *****. So that's cool.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Hands down the best movie Luthor

I should think so after thr past two incarnations, and they still haven't "quite" nailed it

But, despite that, Jesse was an entertaining character in the film.

 

[matt47]

Yeah...I'd say he is the least worst Luthor so far.

 

[DigificWriter]

Eisenberg's Lex, for me, has everything that both Kevin Spacey and Michael Rosenbaum' Lexes did, but distilled and amplified through this rather disarming and awkward lens that makes him incredibly scary and infinitely dangerous.

The character as portrayed here is a nerdy version of Sheev Palpatine with the psychological damage of real-life killers like Charles Manson and James Holmes.

 

[The Infernal]

The end scene with Lex 'ding ding ding' Luthor was leaked on YouTube recently. Spoilers of course.

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April fools duh.

 

[Slade W]

Overall, I found him fun to watch, although there were scenes with him that I also found difficult to watch. I don't think that he was a good Luthor, but I think that he could have been a great Riddler.

 

[Micromind]

He has the potential to improve, he just needs to dial back the tendency to go over the top.

 

[The Infernal]

Dialing back doesn't really solve the problem. It's still Jesse being a dork.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Thank you!

You can't turn Jesse Eisenberg into... Bryan Cranston... from Breaking Bad... Probably his role as Hal in MITM..
But not Walter White...

It's too much of who he is as a person and as an actor.

 

[Adhesive Boy]

Eisenberg's Lex, for me, has everything that both Kevin Spacey and Michael Rosenbaum' Lexes did, but distilled and amplified through this rather disarming and awkward lens that makes him incredibly scary and infinitely dangerous.

The character as portrayed here is a nerdy version of Sheev Palpatine with the psychological damage of real-life killers like Charles Manson and James Holmes.

I have a hard time seeing him as a version of Palpatine because if you remove the calm grace and the intense sadism that shines through it's not Palpatine anymore. Lex had none of that so the only thing that really connects them is that they try to manipulate their way to power, but Lex fails on a lower level than Palpatine succeeds.

I can only see him as a version of Palpatine if you also mix in a muppet.

 

[Wheels]

I have a hard time seeing him as a version of Palpatine because if you remove the calm grace and the intense sadism that shines through it's not Palpatine anymore. Lex had none of that so the only thing that really connects them is that they try to manipulate their way to power, but Lex fails on a lower level than Palpatine succeeds.

I can only see him as a version of Palpatine if you also mix in a muppet.

You mean Palps wasn't a muppet during the scene in which he gets disfigured in ROTS? Learn something new every day.

 

[Adhesive Boy]

You mean Palps wasn't a muppet during the scene in which he gets disfigured in ROTS? Learn something new every day.

He was awful in that scene, but you picked one scene out of 5 movies that he appeared in (don't know how many scenes that is) while this Lex was a muppet in almost every scene he's appeared in. That comparison seems reaching.

 

[Wheels]

He was awful in that scene, but you picked one scene out of 5 movies that he appeared in (don't know how many scenes that is) while this Lex was a muppet in almost every scene he's appeared in. That comparison seems reaching.

Not reaching. Joking. Big difference. I'll leave you people to regularity scheduled discussion now.

 

[Adhesive Boy]

Not reaching. Joking. Big difference. I'll leave you people to regularity scheduled discussion now.

Well, I'm not Drax so things can go over my head.

 

[The Guard]

Luthor has been rumored for SUICIDE SQUAD for a while now.

This Luthor is definitely a different animal. I do think there was some really interesting character work done with Luthor, in relation to the larger themes of the mythology and the unfolding universe.

I think the deleted scene/s are going to help flesh out his motivations and character arc a bit. They really did nail the basics of comic book Luthor quite well and even worked in some of the ideas from LUTHOR: MAN OF STEEL, though they were used as commentary from the public. Overall, I think it's a nice blend of the classic "mad scientist" from the Silver Age and the BIRTHRIGHT Luthor with a dash of the modern MAN OF STEEL era businessman, and this element was mostly used to hide his true nature and help him work the system, which I found spot on.

Speaking of his true nature, that's one thing I loved about Eisenberg's Lex; that almost everything he said had a hidden meaning. He mentioned that in interviews early on and that element did not disappoint.

 

[terry78]

I think they gave it a very greek tragedy reason why he despises Superman as opposed to some of the other more flimsy reasons the comics have given, so I don't mind that.

 

[The Guard]

He has his classic reasons, too. Aside from the fear of the unknown and the alien, at heart, he's obviously jealous and resentful that he has so much knowledge, but is still not the most powerful force.

Meanwhile he fears the nature of those with great power, which is revealed to be because of his childhood abuse, extrapolated into insecurites about those with power; the government, God, Superman, etc.

Yet despite that childhood abuse, he has spent a lifetime using knowledge to accrue power and then turning it on others, in essence becoming a bully and an abuser.

And so he recognizes this "Power corrupts" type flaw in himself, which is part of the reason why he has concerns about others with great power. It's a vicious cycle.

But he doesn't let that stop him from pursuit of ultimate knowledge, and even more power. In his own way, he's a very broken man.

What's cool is that they reveal it all backward, so you don't recognize how it's all layered together and relevant until the end.

It's interesting stuff.

 

[Slade W]

If Lex was so scared of a powerful being like Superman existing, why did he create something even more powerful, destructive and unpredictable than Superman in Doomsday?

 

[The Guard]

Because he can't help himself. It's part of his arc.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Dialing back doesn't really solve the problem. It's still Jesse being a dork.

Agreed. He is so miscast. Bad writing and over top acting is not only thing ruining it. He was supposed to be cast as Jimmy Olsen. That say it all lol.

 

[terry78]

Snyder has openly admitted that he's done stuff in this flick just because it would be deemed cooler and more edgy, so I won't deny that.

 

[Miss Lois Lane]

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[The Infernal]

Agreed. He is so miscast. Bad writing and over top acting is not only thing ruining it. He was supposed to be cast as Jimmy Olsen. That say it all lol.

If they had done to a possible Jesse Eisenberg's Jimmy Olsen what they did to Olsen in this film, then I would maybe have been less miffed about that character's fate.

 

[Sweetchuck]

I have a question. Whats to stop Lex from telling the world who Superman and probably Batman is when he inevitably gets out of prison in the next movie or two?