BvS Jesse Eisenberg IS Lex Luthor - Part 2

[StarvingArtist]

I'm offended by the "You people" comment.

Just... why? WHY? I'm sorry, I'm just completely baffled. I mean, does anyone here actually WANT to see a good Superman movie? How diluted does the property have to become by this or that director's own "personal vision" before any random schmuck filmmaker can have whatever garbage that sticks after he throws it at a wall accepted by audiences?

There's a reason Man of Steel split audiences in half and Avengers made a billion dollars. It's because they put freakin' Captain America, Iron Man, and the Hulk from the comics in a movie together. Man of Steel took a promising casting decision, gave him no lines, a "snyder's vision" super-suit, and had him hit everything for 45 minutes. And then he killed the villain.

And now Jesse Eisenberg is Lex Luthor.

You all know that it's okay to refrain from squinting and leaning to the left to try and "see" this kid as Superman's nemesis right? What does being a Superman fan even mean anymore these days when with each passing day the mythos is less and less recognizable? Ah well, sucks I'm in the minority. I guess I'm getting old.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I heard that exact same argument in 2005 when I was predicting that Topher Grace would suck as Venom. Some castings are self-evident as catastrophies.

See, that's completely different.

Topher Grace could have been a phenomenal Eddie Brock/Venom, had they based his iteration on the right source. Namely, Ultimate Eddie Brock, whom he was very much suited to emulate

However, the director of that project (who also wrote it) was someone who didn't like Venom, didn't want to use him, and (clearly) had zero understanding of the character.

The same can't be said for Zack Snyder.

Snyder has a very clear understanding of these characters, and has a very clear love of them as well.

And at the very least, he can create interpretations of these characters that succeed at the most fundamental levels, as evident in 'Man of Steel'. Even if, there are some glaring visual deviations.

 

[StarvingArtist]

See, that's completely different.

Topher Grace could have been a phenomenal Eddie Brock/Venom, had they based his iteration of the right source. Namely, Ultimate Eddie Brock.

However, the director of that project (who also wrote it) was someone who didn't like Venom, didn't want to use him, and (clearly) had zero understanding of the character.

The same can't be said for Zack Snyder.

Snyder has a very clear understanding of these characters, and has a very clear love of them as well.

And at the very least, he can create interpretations of these characters that succeed at the most fundamental levels, as evident in 'Man of Steel'. Even if, there are some glaring visual deviations.

If Zach Snyder had a clear understanding of the characters, Man of Steel wouldn't have gotten 55% on Rotten Tomatoes.

EDIT: And Superman wouldn't have killed Zod.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Just... why? WHY? I'm sorry, I'm just completely baffled. I mean, does anyone here actually WANT to see a good Superman movie? How diluted does the property have to become by this or that director's own "personal vision" before any random schmuck filmmaker can have whatever garbage that sticks after he throws it at a wall accepted by audiences?

There's a reason Man of Steel split audiences in half and Avengers made a billion dollars. It's because they put freakin' Captain America, Iron Man, and the Hulk from the comics in a movie together. Man of Steel took a promising casting decision, gave him no lines, a "snyder's vision" super-suit, and had him hit everything for 45 minutes. And then he killed the villain.

And now Jesse Eisenberg is Lex Luthor.

You all know that it's okay to refrain from squinting and leaning to the left to try and "see" this kid as Superman's nemesis right? What does being a Superman fan even mean anymore these days when with each passing day the mythos is less and less recognizable? Ah well, sucks I'm in the minority. I guess I'm getting old.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

From their respective homes of Metrosexuapolis and Got-him City.

LOL, that poster is hilarious. Dat feel.

 

[StarvingArtist]

Just to throw another curveball in what has been a very random 35 pages of posts I just caught up on:

I would love to see a gay Batman or Superman!

I've stated my feelings on racial changes in various other threads (bring it on!) so I'm not planning on getting involved here, but I understand and respect all those who want things by the book. I think they're wrong but they're more than welcomed to think it lol.

Then write some fan fiction.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

If Zach Snyder had a clear understanding of the characters, Man of Steel wouldn't have gotten 55% on Rotten Tomatoes.

EDIT: And Superman wouldn't have killed Zod.

He killed Zod in the comics, in a much less dire situation as well, same goes for Superman II. And you've come to the wrong place if you want to use RT scores as an example.

 

[roach]

Superman would never kill Zod

 

[roach]

Nope Superman never kills

 

[mkilban2]

Well.. That escalated quickly.

 

[InJustice]

If Zach Snyder had a clear understanding of the characters, Man of Steel wouldn't have gotten 55% on Rotten Tomatoes.

EDIT: And Superman wouldn't have killed Zod.

Do we really need to start the whole killing argument again? Superman kills in the comics, whether you like it or not.

 

[StarvingArtist]

Enjoy your Lex

 

[TheNextNolan22]

SUPERMAN DOES NOT KILL.....except in comics, TV, movies, and video games. Oh wait...

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Enjoy your Lex

EisenLex FTW!! t:

 

[MrsKent26]

Nope Superman never kills

Outlandish. Out of character.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Just... why? WHY? I'm sorry, I'm just completely baffled. I mean, does anyone here actually WANT to see a good Superman movie? How diluted does the property have to become by this or that director's own "personal vision" before any random schmuck filmmaker can have whatever garbage that sticks after he throws it at a wall accepted by audiences?

There's a reason Man of Steel split audiences in half and Avengers made a billion dollars. It's because they put freakin' Captain America, Iron Man, and the Hulk from the comics in a movie together. Man of Steel took a promising casting decision, gave him no lines, a "snyder's vision" super-suit, and had him hit everything for 45 minutes. And then he killed the villain.

And now Jesse Eisenberg is Lex Luthor.

You all know that it's okay to refrain from squinting and leaning to the left to try and "see" this kid as Superman's nemesis right? What does being a Superman fan even mean anymore these days when with each passing day the mythos is less and less recognizable? Ah well, sucks I'm in the minority. I guess I'm getting old.

Damn, u mad.

 

[mkilban2]

I think a character is defined by what he does. Race and sexual orientation don't change the characters in my eyes.

 

[SpideyFan866]

If Zach Snyder had a clear understanding of the characters, Man of Steel wouldn't have gotten 55% on Rotten Tomatoes.

EDIT: And Superman wouldn't have killed Zod.

1. Critics and much of the GA don't have a full understanding of Superman, resulting in that score. Though admittedly, the film didn't quite live up to expectations.

2. You clearly don't have a complete understanding of the character, or you'd know that Superman has killed many, many times before in the comics.

 

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