Joel Schumacher Interview on avclub.com

I'm not saying that it wasn't dark or that it had mainstream appeal. I'm saying that Schumacher makes it sound like it was a failure, and no one ever wanted to see another Batman movie again. That's quite an exaggeration. I can see the problems with the movie, and with its mainstream appeal, but to say that the franchise was dead? That's ludicrous. Batman: The Animated Series came out along with Batman Returns. Interest was still there, the franchise was very much alive. Schumacher makes it sound like Burton's movie killed it, and Batman Forever brought it out of the depths. That's what HIS movies did, not Burton's.

Yeah, Schumacher was full of crap. Batman Returns sold the same number of tickets as a $270-280 million movie in 2008 (thanks to ticket price inflation). It was still a big success. Nowhere near as big as B89, but still big. Schumacher's movie didn't do much better than Batman Returns at the domestic box office so he's full of crap when he busts out with this "logic."
 
Speaking of which redfirebird2008, Nolan was a nobody when BF and B&R came out -- his short film "The Following" didn't come out until a year after B&R came out. During that period, he had even less credibility than Schumacher.

What the hell does that have to do with anything? Bottom line is Schumacher's interview on this topic occurred recently, ie after Nolan was already a household name and presumably after TDK had already come out. He claims it's impossible to make a good follow up. Nolan proved that to be a load of BS. And so did Burton for the record. Schumacher just needs to deal with the reality that he sucks. Other directors have proven that you can make good sequels so he needs to stop hiding behind the notion that it's not possible.
 
How about you guys grow up, let the past be the past and move on? Obviously Shumacher knew what he did and said he was sorry.

Get over it.
 
Joel Schumacher: Can we move off Batman, ya think? That was years ago. I've made seven films since then.

I agree...

It's time to move on and stop throwing blame. Batman fans act like he's the devil incarnated or something. 11 years after Batman & Robin, we are now sitting with a new Batman film... one that is seriously being considered for an Oscar - multiple ones at that.

Let it go! It's his word against Keaton's and we will never really know how the transitions happened.

Just enjoy Christopher Nolan for the time being.
 
I agree...

It's time to move on and stop throwing blame. Batman fans act like he's the devil incarnated or something. 11 years after Batman & Robin, we are now sitting with a new Batman film... one that is seriously being considered for an Oscar - multiple ones at that.

Let it go! It's his word against Keaton's and we will never really know how the transitions happened.

Just enjoy Christopher Nolan for the time being.


He is the devil incarnated, have you seen B&R?

You should learn from the past, these arguments help provide what we don't want for the future, and why we would never want a schumacher, information can never be posted to many times!

It's quite clear that schumacher is trying to do anything to justify his movies instead of just admitting "wow, i didnt know what the **** I was smoking during those movies"

I haven't seen any of his other movies, but I presume there better than his Batman films
 
For God's sake it's just a bad movie! Shumacher is not the devil!
 
I agree...

It's time to move on and stop throwing blame. Batman fans act like he's the devil incarnated or something. 11 years after Batman & Robin, we are now sitting with a new Batman film... one that is seriously being considered for an Oscar - multiple ones at that.

Let it go! It's his word against Keaton's and we will never really know how the transitions happened.

Just enjoy Christopher Nolan for the time being.

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We all need to chill. Im thankful for batman and robin! Everything happens for a reason (debatable but true so far) hahah.

Without all this junk we wouldn't have had TDK, that's just how it is!!! don't dare say "oh we could have had this, culda had that blah blah..." well we didnt!!! So its pointless to even think about. What we have now is superb because of it all, that's what counts! **** the What Ifs and couda wouda shoulda. I love all the Batman movies, they represent the times PERFECTLY. I hated some when they came out sure.. but that was then, I was worried, really worried...but NOW.. no not at all... TDK has satisfied nearly everyone. I'm at ease.

I'm proud to say, and THINK....that "wow my hero, my icon, my favorite fictional character ever... something Ive loved since i was born.. is the number one property, movie, Character.... KING of Hollywood and cinema..." it makes any bat fan feel Very proud, whether they liked TDK to the fullest or not.. you have to appreciate the LOVE batman is getting... to bounce back and be the biggest thing in the world. If you don't then your not a batman fan, how could you be?

Its a true blessing B&R happened when it did. I wouldn't dare shun it now. I embrace it!
 
Yeah, if B&R wasn't as crappy as it was, we would of never gotten Nolan BB or most of all TDK.
 
Yeah, if B&R wasn't as crappy as it was, we would of never gotten Nolan BB or most of all TDK.

Exactly, Even if BF and B&R were okay and there was a batman 5, 6, 7 all of it.. wouldn't have compared to what we have today.

Id much rather have one mediocre movie, one really ****** movie, and then have batman begins and the award winning TDK... instead of having numerous mediocre or below par batman films
 

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