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John Wick's Chad Stahelski on Larger Than Life Action Scenes, Upcoming Projects, and More
Future of Wick Franchise
John Wick: Chapter 4 has been been announced for quite some time, and then Lionsgate just announced John Wick 5. How far along in development are you and the team, on those?
That's a tricky one for me. There's the studio business side of things that, of course, I think they think Keanu and I are getting on in our years, so they're going to try to do to two back to back. That's interesting. It's very flattering. I'm psyched that I have a studio behind me that wants to keep making John Wicks.
Creatively, we're pushing forward, trying to do as much as we can. The way Keanu and I approach it with our writing team is, "Look, we have ideas, but it's not like I'm working with two sets of writers on two movies." We're going to write a really good number four. If a really good number four feels solid to Keanu and I, we'll make that one. That doesn't mean we won't plan on a fifth or start writing five, but we want to make sure we have a solid story. The worst thing you can do is "I got five ideas. I'm going to put two in number four and put three in umber five." I don't want to try and stretch into two movies. I want to have solid ideas. So we're attacking number four with everything we have and if there's anything left on the table, we'll fully attack number five.
We have lots of ideas. We're just in the process where we feel really good about where we're going with number five. I mean number four. We feel like we have a pretty good idea, working hard on the script. We have some great action ideas. Keanu's really excited what he can do with the character for that.
And from there it's "Okay, great." Now we're starting to look at "Okay, where would this character be after this movie happens?" But it's hard to start talking about a five until you really sussed our four.
I'm just being safe in my answer because I want to make sure we have a rock-solid four and then we have a rock-solid five, and it's not just some "Hey, let's make a big announcement about having a lot of movies."
So, John Wick 5 is on the table pretty much if you guys want it. Obviously you've talked Keanu a lot. If the ideas are there, do you want to go past five or did you see an end in sight for both you and Keanu?
Look, if I was fortunate enough to only ever work with Keanu, I'd be stroked. He's a great guy, great creative partner.
Again, because the studio is generous to let Keanu and I control the creative path of the franchise, the limit of John Wicks is the limit of our imaginations. It's not like we run out of days and go, "Okay, what's the episodic mission John on now?" Yeah, I'd get bored of that. But because we can expand or contract the world as we see fit to carry the character, there's no existing property, so you don't have to hold true to what superpowers he has or doesn't have. We make it up as we go.
We both thought we were satiated after number three, and we both thought, "Okay, I'm good. We did three. Wow, they turned out pretty good. Wow, we dodged a bullet. Thank God." And we were both like, "Well, we're done. We did a good job. What's next?" And then we were on the publicity tour for it, and we were both sitting in Japan having a drink and we just smiled at each other, going, "What do you think?" He's like, "I don't know. I think maybe I want to do one more. I was like, "Yeah, me too."
So we had some ideas that we didn't get to use in the first three that we really want to try and do and expand the character and the world, and that makes perfect sense.
So short version of the answer is, look, as long as it's interesting, I have no problem working. There are other things Keanu and I both want to do, but we feel very good about John Wick. Do I see an end? My response is always John's in a world that you do bad things, bad things happen to you. So I don't know if John Wick's ever going to get a happy ending. He may have happy moments, but I don't know. We'll see what's in store for John Wick.
Ballpark idea, do you have any idea when you want to start John Wick? Matrix 4 is getting close to completion, right?
Yeah. I reckon they finish by the end of the year. Keanu will probably want a small rest I would hope. We're fairly active in John Wick right now. In a best-case world, if we were shooting in spring, that'd be great.