jokernicks scene X3: Here's his stand *Spoilers*

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My first thread...sort of...but not really. I hope I don't get...punished for this. Don't blame me... ;) :p heh... anyway...















Post it Joker...
 
can't start a thread because of my probabtion, anyway's i've seen x3, this past monday, special charity screening, here's my review, and yes, it's real this time



X3: the last stand



Well, I saw X3 this past Monday night at a local movie theater. Before seeing the film, I have tried to stay objective, but have mostly been somewhat negative about this film before its release. I’d like to say that my past feelings didn’t influence my current feelings and opinion after seeing the film, but I’m not sure. Well, I took my seat at 7:15pm, and I was honestly excited about this film, I felt like a little kid again, waking up on Christmas morning. I was sitting next to my GF, and she’s not the hugest X-Men fan, she’s seen bits and parts of the movie, so there I am, giving her a “cliff notes” type summary of the previous X-Men movies.
The time is now 7:30, the lights go dim, and the reels start to role. To my surprise there are no previews, usually I would be disappointed, but not in this case, my only desire is to be immersed in the world of the X-Men.
The movie flew by, and when I left the film, I felt very weird. I know I will be mocked for saying this, but I felt l did after I had sex for the first time. I enjoyed it, but it could have been better, and longer, lol, sorry, but that is how I felt, after both of them. Wow, that was bad.
You all know the story, so I’m not going to go over that, plus, I’m going to try to keep it “Spoiler Light”, but no promises
I’m going to start out by telling you about the things that I liked. First off, Ian is great as Magneto, which is no surprise, he is an outstanding actor, and you can just see the hatred in his eyes when he gives he talks in this movie. I also love the way he knows how to talk to mutants, how he makes each person feel like they are not the outcast, but a god among humans. When he lifts the GG Bridge, it is amazing; it is bar far one of the best special FX I have ever seen in film, it is jaw dropping. My next favorite is Pyro, after X2, I was afraid he would be nothing more then a pawn for Magneto, but in this movie, he is basically Magnetos right hand man. I love the way he’s always right by his side, when Magneto is in the church, and he’s trying to recruit mutants, then Callisto and her gang confront him, Pyro is right there ready to rumble incase anyone wants to go after Magneto. When he’s causing mayhem too, you can see the joy of his hatred in his face, whether it’s lighting cars ablaze or talking smack to another mutant, he is just crazy cool. Hugh Jackman again is outstanding as Logan, he does feel a little bit watered down in this film, but you know what, he’s fun. These movies need a center character, and whether or not you like the wolverine is the main focus, you can’t deny that Hugh keeps your attention, and makes you laugh when the time is right. Even though he does crack jokes a lot, when you see him fight (the woods scene it awesome) you get into it, and it makes you wish you had steel claws and could regenerate, he’s total badass. Professor X is good as usual, there’s not much to say about him in this film though, because he doesn’t do much more then he did in the other ones, I’m not going to go into spoilers with him, but when a certain event happens, you feel heartbroken, you realize that he is so important to each x-men, he is their father and mentor.
Halle Berry, well this is where I’m going to change from things I liked, to things I just don’t know about. Halle is a good actress, she has proving herself in other films, but not in any x-men film, including this one, she has an expanded role, but I still don’t buy her as storm. When I see storm in the comics, you can see the wisdom and history in her, they way she talks and they way she looks. Halle is a gorgeous woman, but when I look at her, I just see a gorgeous woman, not a woman that was once a criminal or who was raised in Africa. I know none of that was explained in these movies, but being a comic fan, these traits and events are cemented in my mind. Plus I just don’t like the way her character changes from movie to movie, the first movie, she had a African accent, then in x2, she lost the accident and talked like a normal woman, now in x3, she talks like she was born in East St. Louis, she seems very urban, and that’s not how I picture Storm. I loved her action scenes, when she fights, it’s awesome, but for some reason I don’t buy Halle Berry. I just don’t think she tried that hard in this film. Another character I kind of liked was Juggernaut, he was funny, and when he said his helmet makes his face stay pretty, I started to laugh “salmon peace for pudding”, sorry, had to put it in there. He doesn’t get to say “I'm the juggernaut, *****!” though, it cuts away before the B word, but you can tell he was going to say that. My main problem with him was he didn’t do much besides being the Brotherhood Ox, and before you know it, he’s gone. I don’t mind juggernaut being a mutant in the film, I think showing him as a normal person who discovered some crystal that made him super human, would be to far of a stretch for this X-Men series, but why couldn’t they have shown he was Xavier’s step-brother, that made me mad. Phoenix, oh my, the lovely Famke, she did a great job in this film when the time came, but for the majority, she’s just standing around, not doing much. Her scenes with Logan are great, but feel like there were forced, if Cyclops would have had Logan’s role in this film, it would have been better, I just don’t buy it that Logan loves her, when he’s known her for not even two weeks. Also, where is the fire bird, I sure didn’t see it in the film; they show it to us in x2, but not in here???…. Plus she really wasn’t referred to as the phoenix in this movie. I really feel like the dark phoenix plotline was wasted, it felt like an after thought, the cure storyline was the main focus; you should have saved the dark phoenix for another movie. Beast was another so/so aspect for me, Grammar played the role great, and I was glad to see him fight in the end, don’t worry about the reviews you read so far, his fight scenes are not that bad, I like them. I just didn’t care that much for the fur suite, it wasn’t as bad as I expected, it could have been better, but it could have been worse. The last so so thing for me, was the Danger Room, while I felt like the needed to show the danger room, it just wasn’t done that great, plus the sentinel was a waste of time and money IMO, if you aren’t going to show the hole sentinel in all it’s glory, then don’t show it. Mystique is cool as usual, and I thought her end was very satisfying and heartbreaking. She just couldn’t catch a brake in this movie.
Now to the things I don’t like or just didn’t care for. Lets start with the dreaded Cyclops, while I feel his character has been mistreated this hole series, just playing Yin to Logan’s Yang, he is really mistreated in this one. If you don’t want to know his fate, stop reading now, because this is spoilerific. Cyclops is screwed over big time in this film. You can tell Fox had an agenda to punish Mardsen for signing up to do Superman. He has two scenes basically, and if you’ve seen the trailers, you’ve seen all his screen time minus 1 minute. Yes, he is killed in this movie, but not in the way the other characters meet their demise, they don’t even show his death, plus, after he dies, no one, you got that, no one seems to care or is impacted in anyway. I said it before and I’ll say it again, Fox is giving the one finger solute with two hands to Mardsen. They are telling him, that “we don’t care that you are doing Superman, in fact!!!!! No one in the film cares about your character at all……” To give a Cyclops a smaller role, or a decent death would have at least been tactful, but no, they couldn’t even do that, he is nothing more then a sacrificial lamb to the executive fat cat gods at Fox.

Okay, sorry about that, let’s go on. All of the other characters are ok in this movie minus the brotherhood, which I will get to in a moment. No character, minus Angel really shines. Colossus is cool, better he looks like the T-1000 from T2 when in metal form, the Rogue / Bobby relationship feels very forced, and Angel, even though I love his character and he is very cool in this movie, has no screen time, and he climatic rescue at the end, is just painful dull and uninspired.
The absolute worst part of the film is the Brotherhood members, it is a mish most of familiar mutant names and different powers. Its lie they went through the comics and picked out names then picked powers from a hat. Also how can you tell who the bad guys are, they wear leather and have tattoos, come on, how much more stereotypical can you get. Don’t even get me started on Quills, when he’s trying to intimidate Pyro, people actually started to laugh in the theater, “oooooohhh, your porcupine spikes, better watch out” honestly, what a lame power, and name too, go back to you burrow and stay there. Callisto is boring, the running effect was cool, and she has two very nice friends, if you know what I mean. Pyslocke was wasted, she had a few lines and a quick death, well deserved for a character with a strong fan base and nice back story (and people want to see Gambit, consider his character lucky). And that girl that looked like Christ Tucker, all I can say is……….. Nice hair…
Multiple Man was cool, but was a one truck pony.

Now my main beef was Magnetos fate, he was cured, so to speak, well kind off, well I don’t know, and to top it off, he’s free. He’s playing chess in public, instead of being locked away in jail, how many people have you heard of (don’t say OJ Simpson either) that committed murder, broker out of jail, kidnapped people, destroyed the GG bridge and committed terrorism, and are not being hunter by the police or army for that matter, Also, I felt like I was rooting for the Brotherhood the hole movie, Mutants were being hunted and forced to take the cure, and yet the x-men decide to fight, not the people going after them, but the people who want to stop the cure…. I just thought that by the x-men doing that, they really didn’t haven’t mutant kinds best interest in mind, I know magneto was using murder and destruction to complete his goal, but can you really blame him, I mean, this guy suffered through the holocaust, and persecution is happening all over again, and how were the Nazi’s stopped, force, so how can you blame him for using it….. I don’t agree with his methods, heart in the right place, and brain in the wrong……..idk, very weird situation.
When the movie ended, I felt like there was very little closure, okay, Rogue is cured, now what, Magneto is somewhat depowered, so what’s he going to do next, Xavier’s back, kind of………….. the cures still around, and what happened to the surviving brotherhood members, are they in Jail, are they free, there was many things that weren’t cleared up, and I feel another 30 minutes could have helped this. I’m not trying to hate on this movie, it has its flaws and it’s has its strong points, like any movie, but I feel it could have been better. So go see this movie, I was entertained while watching it, and want to see it again, is was great summer fun, and when it comes out on DVD, I will watch all three movies back to back to back, and it will be great, this movie will definitely be better when watched as a third part, not as a separate movie…

I give X3 a 6.5 out of 10

X2 was a 9 out of 10

X1 was a 7.5 out of 10
 
Figured...but meh... everyone is entitled to their opinion. Im still seeing it with an open mind... I could use a memory wipe :p
 
Actually cant quills shoot spikes around? Thats a cool power imo.
 
I'm watching x-3 on the 26 then I'll come back and read your review...
 
XCharlieX said:
Actually cant quills shoot spikes around? Thats a cool power imo.

yeah, i think your right, show's how memroble his character was.......lol
 
I assume there was a good reason for your probation and not being able to start a thread....
 
Psionic Force said:
I assume there was a good reason for your probation and not being able to start a thread....

aaahhh, drank to much, started a thread called Popazoa.............
 
RagingTempest said:
How would you rank X3 above other Marvel movies?

x2 9/10
spider-man 8.5/10
spider-man 2 8.5/10
Blade 8/10
X-Men 7.5/10
Blade 2 6.5/10
X3 6.5/10
Blade Trinity 6/10
Punisher 6/10
Hulk 5.5/10
Daredevil 4/10
Elektra 2/10
 
DarknessOfDeath said:
... did u like Famke?

Famke was great, when she had something to do, when she was being bad, she was great, but it just felt like she didn't have much to do until the end
 
Mike059jig said:
What scene's stand out for you the most?

besides cyclops at alkali lake.................... probably Xaviers death followed by the scene of Magneto throwing cars in the air then having pyro set them ablaze.......... and Angels scenes........
 
That is really annoying about Cyclops! I really hope they don't make anymore movies because without Scott and Jean and Rogue, it really won't work!

Do Scott and Jean share alot of dialogue at Alkali before they kiss and cut away?

Does Scott interact with Storm or Xavier before leaving the school?
 
Thanks goodness magneto has great scene...what does he say bout x death??any line referring/contrasting to x1 like "And I ask only one thing in return old friend,don't get in my way"..Cyclops has a memorable scene then just wasted after..That is incredible..Just unbelievable
 
taintedFB said:
That is really annoying about Cyclops! I really hope they don't make anymore movies because without Scott and Jean and Rogue, it really won't work!

Do Scott and Jean share alot of dialogue at Alkali before they kiss and cut away?

it's funny, looking back at these films, it might be the most dialogue they shared in one together...... it's a decent amount, could have been more and more emotional, I mean I consider my self to be a tough guy, but if my love died, then came back, and there's was no one but us two around, I would of broken down and cried like a little girl, but that's just me
 
DarknessOfDeath said:
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Will I have nightmares about her?


possibly, I wish they would have used the phoenix effect, instead she just had dark eyes, and snarled alot
 
Mike059jig said:
Thanks goodness magneto has great scene...what does he say bout x death??any line referring/contrasting to x1 like "And I ask only one thing in return old friend,don't get in my way"..Cyclops has a memorable scene then just wasted after..That is incredible..Just unbelievable


none really, It seemed like he was a little upset, but he moved on pretty quick
 
DarknessOfDeath said:
She snarls ... she snarls... SHE SNARLS by the seashore :p

lol snarls is a bad word, mostly she just stands there and looks like she concentrating,
 
well..she's telepathic...and telekinetic.. but powerful... its better than getting spat on and you;ve got green spit on your face...
 
DarknessOfDeath said:
well..she's telepathic...and telekinetic.. but powerful...
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yep. amnd that's what she was going for, and she did a decent job...


thank god she didn't cock her head, close one eye and start humming......
 

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