JULY & AUG fan Art WINNERS! (better late than never)

[EXCELSIOR]

Greetings gang,

Sorry this has taken so long!

Normally we have a voting thread, but due to circumstances, I've taken the liberty in the name of closing out the July & August contests to pick the winners!

JULY: The Bat-Man!

WINNER - bane

Excelsior's Bat-tastic Favs
Mrh7448
vicariou5
antmanx68
O'Haire
ThatOneGuy


AUGUST: Steam-Punk Heroes!

WINNER - antmanx68

Excelsior's Punk'd Favs
Morph
Mattchew
Ring Deacon
5p1d3r
bgates87

Contrats to ALL who entered!- As always SHH fan art artists are the best...
Oct contest will have a voting poll thread!

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Can we know how many votes everyone received?

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Oh wait, YOU chose? C'mon man... first you make us wait two-three months and now we don't even get to vote?

 

[uriondo]

Be serious, Asteroid, do you really want to waste more time voting? It´s better going directly to the "oktober fest".
Anyway, I really hoped for a better position in the august contest... Shame on you, Excelsior! ;-p
It´s good to see you back in da haus

 

[Phig]

congrats antman & bane!!!! antman the mood and texture on your piece was great, and bane... well, your painting was sublime!!! i'd love to see your paintings adorn real film posters!

and asteroid man... get over it!!

 

[Asteroid-Man]

I am being serious. I was looking forward to voting. Don't we always talk about how voting is great? This shouldn't be an autocratic contest. The beauty of these was that we (the artsits) got to decide who won. Also it was always nice to see who else liked our work. We could have a voting thread for 48 hours. Seriously, this is annoying. Especially with the july contest, which has had probably the best turnout this year.

EDIT: It also seems to me that EXELSIOR has a bias against Manips.

 

[D4rkShaDoWz]

Congrats bane!

Next time, baby.

 

[antmanx68]

woo hoo.... what an honor.... i'm looking forward to October.... got a bunch of projects going but I have what I think is a neat idea for this month, hopefully i'll have the time.

 

[bane]

Thanks, I put really hard work in my entry!
See antmanx68 i told you'd win.
So what exactly do we win, bigger avatars?

 

[Mattchew]

congrats bane and antmanx68! well deserved!

 

[EXCELSIOR]

Asteroid-Man, sorry you feel that way!
But this is the way it is... can we be happy that July & Aug are over?

The alternative was to scrap July & Aug all together, this was the easiest way to do it - setting up the voting thread and having 2-3 days of voting is a very time consuming thing, and I thought it best to pick the winners.

In the early days of the contest I picked the winners - It is never easy as I like all the entries for different reasons... its not always about who does the best drawing, often times I go with the 'feeling' of the piece and or how an artist met the 'theme' - and NO I have NO bias against manips - I just personally like to see a bit of extra creativity in them thats all.

But never fear the voting will return with the OCT contest...

HAVE FUN!

 

[D4rkShaDoWz]

I'm not sure how it would be time consuming since we've been waiting a couple of months as it is, but let's move on to bigger things..

 

[ComicChick]

Can we know how many votes everyone received?

the vote total is never given out.
i remember when excelsior was the one who picked the winners, heck, i remember when actual prizes were given out.

 

[5p1d3r]

I am being serious. I was looking forward to voting. Don't we always talk about how voting is great? This shouldn't be an autocratic contest. The beauty of these was that we (the artsits) got to decide who won. Also it was always nice to see who else liked our work. We could have a voting thread for 48 hours. Seriously, this is annoying. Especially with the july contest, which has had probably the best turnout this year.

EDIT: It also seems to me that EXELSIOR has a bias against Manips.

hey, man. No manip won those contests! Bane did that on his own it looks like. He's just that good! That Bat-Man contest must of been a hard one to judge!

Anyway, This is Excelsior's contest. And he just did this as a one time thing to get thing rolling again. Be happy he is back and we even have this thread to be able to do this!

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Bane would've won without a doubt. But those second-fourth place prizes are ALL drawings. There isn't a single manip. EXELSIOR used to not even allow Manips, I doubt he even sees them as art now.

 

[BATZARRO WWD]

At least it all went down already. Lets see if I can't take it to the October contest as soon as I get a new scanner...

 

[DorkyFresh]

welcome back Excelsior, and congrats antman and bane! jobs well done!!!

Bane would've won without a doubt. But those second-fourth place prizes are ALL drawings. There isn't a single manip. EXELSIOR used to not even allow Manips, I doubt he even sees them as art now.

honestly....manips don't require as much work or dedication in order for them to look good. you have to fully draw and color an illustration, but all you have to do for a manip is copy, paste, and add some filters.

i think you should get off of Ex's back about manips, because he's already allowing them when he doesn't have to. manips might be an art form in itself, but it's not as traditional or admirable as forming an image by hand.

 

[KAD]

welcome back Excelsior, and congrats antman and bane! jobs well done!!!




honestly....manips don't require as much work or dedication in order for them to look good. you have to fully draw and color an illustration, but all you have to do for a manip is copy, paste, and add some filters.

i think you should get off of Ex's back about manips, because he's already allowing them when he doesn't have to. manips might be an art form in itself, but it's not as traditional or admirable as forming an image by hand.

I agree

 

[D4rkShaDoWz]

honestly....manips don't require as much work or dedication in order for them to look good. you have to fully draw and color an illustration, but all you have to do for a manip is copy, paste, and add some filters.

Right about....there. You're completely wrong. Manipulations are very different from artwork and I'm not saying they're as complicated as colored drawings but you're going a little bit too far there. Manipulations require as much detail and attention as any other piece of art. A lot goes on in a Photoshop canvas - Extracting the picture from a background, finding a good source image to use, perfect text structure, placement of the layers, experimenting with various filters, blending the image with the background to make it presentable....What is the difference whether an artist uses a computer mouse as his tool or a pencil as his tool?

 

[Syncos]

welcome back Excelsior, and congrats antman and bane! jobs well done!!!




honestly....manips don't require as much work or dedication in order for them to look good. you have to fully draw and color an illustration, but all you have to do for a manip is copy, paste, and add some filters.

i think you should get off of Ex's back about manips, because he's already allowing them when he doesn't have to. manips might be an art form in itself, but it's not as traditional or admirable as forming an image by hand.

Right about....there. You're completely wrong. Manipulations are very different from artwork and I'm not saying they're as complicated as colored drawings but you're going a little bit too far there. Manipulations require as much detail and attention as any other piece of art. A lot goes on in a Photoshop canvas - Extracting the picture from a background, finding a good source image to use, perfect text structure, placement of the layers, experimenting with various filters, blending the image with the background to make it presentable....What is the difference whether an artist uses a computer mouse as his tool or a pencil as his tool?

Interesting. I disagree with both of you.

Manipulations are just as valid a form of art as drawings. When the right people using the right techniques get behind them. I'm both an illustrator and a manip artist technically, and I put just as much time and effort into both.

But it's not simple chop and crop jobs or placing images together or adding text that i do. There's a lot of painting surfaces, and building up textures to create things. Look at JMC or Ravana's stuff, (granted Rav's stuff has moved more into digital painting) but the same thing applies.

The thing about manips is that it's really easy to pass off something terrible as something good, because the cracks in it's exterior don't show through as well. It's really easy to tell a terrible drawing.

There's my rant for the day. As for Excel, A-Man, lay off. I've been around for years, and Excel has allowed Manips off and on depending on the contest. It used to be months that lended to really easy manips were excluded. You're lucky he's even allowing them on a regular basis these days.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Right about....there. You're completely wrong. Manipulations are very different from artwork and I'm not saying they're as complicated as colored drawings but you're going a little bit too far there.

i don't think i am. making a manip of something does not take the same amount of effort or skill as drawing that same image from scratch...even WITH reference.

Manipulations require as much detail and attention as any other piece of art. A lot goes on in a Photoshop canvas - Extracting the picture from a background, finding a good source image to use, perfect text structure, placement of the layers, experimenting with various filters, blending the image with the background to make it presentable....What is the difference whether an artist uses a computer mouse as his tool or a pencil as his tool?

well, i've used pencils and mice as tools and now use a tablet as a tool...so i know what it's like to go from traditional to digital. that being said, even though a lot of effort goes into tweaking and manipulating, it takes more effort and coordination to actually DRAW the same thing. in a manip, it doesn't take much to make a photo of something look real because the work is already done. at the same rate, it takes a lot of effort and skill to make a drawing look real even with the help of references. while things like filters, blending, etc. require knowledge in order to put them on the manip, it doesn't require as much skill. essentially, you're telling the computer to do the work for you.

i'm not saying manips aren't as legit of an art form as drawing of illustration is....i'm just saying that drawings and illustrations require more skill and effort, which is why i think they're admired more than manips.

Interesting. I disagree with both of you.

Manipulations are just as valid a form of art as drawings. When the right people using the right techniques get behind them. I'm both an illustrator and a manip artist technically, and I put just as much time and effort into both.

But it's not simple chop and crop jobs or placing images together or adding text that i do. There's a lot of painting surfaces, and building up textures to create things. Look at JMC or Ravana's stuff, (granted Rav's stuff has moved more into digital painting) but the same thing applies.

i don't know why you disagree, Syncos, but i agree with everything you posted. i never said that manips aren't as valid of a form of art, but i think drawing/illustration requires more effort and skill...and that's why they're admired more.

 

[5p1d3r]

Bane would've won without a doubt. But those second-fourth place prizes are ALL drawings. There isn't a single manip. EXELSIOR used to not even allow Manips, I doubt he even sees them as art now.

sorry, dude. I read wrong and thought you were saying that Bane's was a manip. I get you now.

And to think of it manips really are not well rep'd here. I used to do them, but they are time consuming! we should have a manip theme one month.

 

[ComicChick]

just remember, these art contests are optional

ie; if you don't like what's going on, you're not obligated to participate

 

[EXCELSIOR]

Bane would've won without a doubt. But those second-fourth place prizes are ALL drawings. There isn't a single manip. EXELSIOR used to not even allow Manips, I doubt he even sees them as art now.

AM,
I am an artist by trade - I see 'art' in all forms even manips!

I have nothing against photo manips - in fact I do them all the time for graphics for SHH and other sites... all I ever ask of manip artists, for that matter ALL entries is that you be as creative as possible!

Manips by their nature are taking an existing photo (or artwork) and changing it... but simply cutting Darth Vader out of a photo and sticking him with the chicks from Sex and the City just doesn't cut it in my book!

YES, there was a time when I did not allow manips in the contests - the problem back in the early days of the contests was, artists were taking other artists work and passing it off as their own and entering contests.

Manips have been allowed for quite some time now! - So far there has not been a kick-ass manip entry as a winner of a contest... I'm looking forward to a kick-ass manip...

Lets move on shall we?

 

[Syncos]

i don't know why you disagree, Syncos, but i agree with everything you posted. i never said that manips aren't as valid of a form of art, but i think drawing/illustration requires more effort and skill...and that's why they're admired more.

erm. Sorry I kinda said I disagreed and then trailed off into my own rant. What I was originally trying to say was that I've worked both mediums, and In my experience it takes just as much, if not more effort and skill to come up with a photo manipulation. When done well.

It's simply a different medium. It's like trying to say that illustrating takes more skill or effort than painting, or vice versa. When the only real differences involve how well you know the medium you're working in.

Anyone can splatter some paint on a canvas and call it art.
Anyone can put a pencil to paper and call it a drawing.
Anyone can crop an image to another and call it a manip.