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Discussion in 'Marvel Comics' started by ShadowBoxing, Jan 25, 2006.
What level is he on...could he take Cap, what about Colossus. he seems like he is way up there
I've heard that he can bench a couple of tons.
www.marveldirectory.com likely has info on him.
not WAY up there. Class 10, 20, 30 at most
Marvel Directory has him at 3 tons.
another case of the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing with that one, I would think
Cage stood up to Doom, he'd have to be a whole lot better than class three for that
marvel dictionary is also not and official sight, it is out dated and also has incorrect info. the new avengers hand book if im not mistaken has luke cage at class for meaning at best is 24 tons or 25 tons
Guys 25tons. titanium hard skin.
yeah fo' real! jusk ask Jessica Jones'
Not if he simply has a lot of balls.
either way the sight u used is inccorrect
yeah, they still incorrectly list captain america's shield as being made of Adamantium and Vibranium
The site might be somewhat outdated, but it's generally correct and the guy running it does update it periodically.
yes but see it out dated and incorrect. it is also not an offficial source for good reason, like that it has many big errors such as posting wolverine at only normal human strength agility and reflex which it is common knowledge, that wolverine is in the superhuman levels and this is just one example
It lists Wolverine at 800 lbs which, as far as I know, hasn't changed. He is considered still normal human strength, but at the extreme end of it.
That site is all kinds of f--ked up, deal with it.
But....Wolverine isn't at "superhuman" levels as far as strength, agility and reflexes are concerned. If anything I would put Wolverine at peak human. But then that would mean he is equal to Captain America physically and that just isn't the case. So Wolverine is most likely very slightly below that.
He isn't "superhuman" from a strength and speed standpoint.
I'm not denying that the site has problems, but it's the best free online source out there still.
It's cool in all, but I learned not to rely on it to much.
u are wrong plain and simple he has since he been out been enchanced human which is lowest level of superhuman.
The Marvel Universe Master Edition Issue 4 clearly states that Wolverine's strength is enhanced human.
Marvel knights encyclopedia states wolverine as enchancded human which is also a step above peakhuman.
wolverine hand book 2004 has wolverine strength level at superhuman
hulks ultimate guide states wolverine with superhuman strength.
this stat list below is wolverines old states befor his heal factor up grades and they state the same thing
Luke Cage is "accepted" at three tons by those who didn't read marvel team up where he tore the ladder off a fire engine and beat down a three strory brick building to keep a fire from spreading.
Luke Cage is accepted at three tons by those who didn't read the original title where he used his chain belt to pull a derailed e-train back up onto its track - it would simply be impossible to move three sections of train at 3 ton strength.
Luke Cage is accepted to be in the three ton range by those who didn't read classic Spiderman where Cage was hired by JJJ to capture Spiderman. Spiderman webbed him down ,.. a move that had held the scorpion,.. someone in Marvel Canon who was stronger than Spiderman. After Cage heard Spideys side of the story,.. he simply got up. 3 ton strength doesn't treat spideys web like tissue-paper.
Luke cage is accepted as being in the three ton range by those who rarely picked up a copy of H4H. In it cage shoved his hands through the hood of a big moving car that was trying to run him down and yanked the entire engine out. Only in a fantasy could one believe that someone had a max strength of three tons could rip out an 8 cyclinder ingine out of a movint 2 ton car, shearing the bolts that held it in place and snapping it off at the transmission like a stick of celery.
My point of course is throughout his career Cage has been doing stuff way outside of the "three ton range" but some die-hard __________________ need to believe that he is much weaker than displayed. You can't name any other hero that SO MANY people get wrong so casually as far as powers and abilities.
Whatever it is, I just say he's strong enough. Period.
Good post, couldn't have said it better myself. ASM #123 is the issue you refer to. Good stuff
I'd say go with the new official handbooks as reference - but they listed Beast as lifting 1 tonne under optimal conditions when he has repeatedly been shown to have class ten and his strength was superhuman when he first appeared and has increased several times since then as the result of various things (infectia, reversion, maturity, secondary mutation etc).
There needs to be an official, Marvel released bio site where all levels of all powers are based on the last fifteen years of real time when more scientific explanations of things came into play more (such as how cyclops body converts energy and the whole apertures in his eyes thing). How Marvel doesnt have a message board is beyond me too - if they had a Bios board with a section where readers can post about conflicting bios stats based on events in comics showing one thing and Marvel claiming another cos they havent researched enough.
I don't see Luke Cage's forte to be his strength, it's his defence. He could take colossus' blows, but can't match them.
Well you cannot just take 1 issue and say thats it, thats everything you need to know about Luke Cage. You have to know the history and tradition. Keep in mind, 3 tons is a MASSIVE amount of weight. But I have always felt he was at least class 10, at least as of New Avengers. However this is a trend I have noticed as far back as Power Man/Iron Fist. Even then he would show feats of strength with ease