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[STARMAN]

They've made crowd-pleasers before. They're capable.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

WB can change the narrative by delivering a crowd-pleaser. Until then it will be susceptible to rumors of poor quality.

Right. It's really that simple. I mean it's not impossible for WB to deliver a decently reviewed and received genre film. They started off the Fantastic Beast series with a decently reviewed film that's going to make over 800 million dollars. There is not some vendetta against these DC films they are just overly sloppy films. Their goals were to make a dark, gritty and cynical world to contrast what the Marvel movies were putting out and they just haven't been able to pull off the feat well enough for people to accept that tone and outlook in their Cinematic Universe.

 

[The Guard]

While I think there are concepts for the film to have some thematic weight, they're clearly aiming for something more crowd-pleasing. The buzz words have been fun and humor which some fans clamored and clamored for and now complain about being reassured about.

I expect the story for JUSTICE LEAGUE to be a lot less complex than BVS to make it more accessible. The rumored MacGuffins of Motherboxes being key plot points, for instance.

 

[brandeezy89]

Now producers and journalists are saying they heard otherwise and getting into arguments

Are you not entertained?

 

[GothamBat]

anyone care to speculate what the second flash suit will be like?

 

[Boy Scout]

More or less the same as the first, just more put together.

 

[Tra-El]

I think it's very close minded and ignorant to think that it's just so easy to make a crowd pleasing film. It really isn't. There's no blueprint into knowing how the audience is going to respond after years of shooting a film, the influences, changes and post production it takes from many people involved. A filmmaker can ONLY make the film they are set out to make and hope to absolute JESUS that it is well received to a mass audience. There's probably an insane amount of moves they decide on to try and think what could make their film better..a tactile insertion that could very well be RIPPED apart by an average film critic. It's a tough business and I respect it.

 

[brandeezy89]

about SS

My coworker went to the same Test Screening and Batman had the same amount of screen time in the theatrical then he did in the Test Screening version. Hell the whole movie was basically the same, their was no magical better version of SS.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I haven't taken back what I said I want more humor in the movies. The more levity stuff is music to my ears.

 

[Guts]

about SS

Now I really feel like his "I saw a previous cut of Suicide Squad" claim is false.

 

[kendalag]

about SS

In the 'final cut' didn't Batman have literally and I mean literally 90 seconds of actual screen time. No way any version of the film would be much different.

 

[GothamBat]

while I don't really love the flash suit, it looks pretty definitive. It doesn't scream "prototype" like say, the suit in TASM1 did. So I'm just really curious how it'll turn out

 

[jmc]

Right. It's really that simple. I mean it's not impossible for WB to deliver a decently reviewed and received genre film. They started off the Fantastic Beast series with a decently reviewed film that's going to make over 800 million dollars. There is not some vendetta against these DC films they are just overly sloppy films. Their goals were to make a dark, gritty and cynical world to contrast what the Marvel movies were putting out and they just haven't been able to pull off the feat well enough for people to accept that tone and outlook in their Cinematic Universe.

The problem is WB haven't settled on what type of movies they are making. At this stage all they need is something that is passable, it doesn't have to be epic or thought provoking. Something that is more or less inoffensive and ticks enough of the competent film making boxes. Something that just gets the basics right.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think it's very close minded and ignorant to think that it's just so easy to make a crowd pleasing film. It really isn't. There's no blueprint into knowing how the audience is going to respond after years of shooting a film, the influences, changes and post production it takes from many people involved. A filmmaker can ONLY make the film they are set out to make and hope to absolute JESUS that it is well received to a mass audience. There's probably an insane amount of moves they decide on to try and think what could make their film better..a tactile insertion that could very well be RIPPED apart by an average film critic. It's a tough business and I respect it.

I don't think making good films is easy at all. I think it's very tough.

 

[Da-Scribe]

The problem is WB haven't settled on what type of movies they are making. At this stage all they need is something that is passable, it doesn't have to be epic or thought provoking. Something that is more or less inoffensive and ticks enough of the competent film making boxes. Something that just gets the basics right.

I'd rather they aim big and fail then go for the bare minimum. I'm so tired of watching these movies that don't try.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The problem is WB haven't settled on what type of movies they are making. At this stage all they need is something that is passable, it doesn't have to be epic or thought provoking. Something that is more or less inoffensive and ticks enough of the competent film making boxes. Something that just gets the basics right.

I don't disagree. A passable film would be just fine and would be a step in the right direction.

 

[jmc]

I think it's very close minded and ignorant to think that it's just so easy to make a crowd pleasing film. It really isn't. There's no blueprint into knowing how the audience is going to respond after years of shooting a film, the influences, changes and post production it takes from many people involved. A filmmaker can ONLY make the film they are set out to make and hope to absolute JESUS that it is well received to a mass audience. There's probably an insane amount of moves they decide on to try and think what could make their film better..a tactile insertion that could very well be RIPPED apart by an average film critic. It's a tough business and I respect it.

It's not easy but you've got better chance of success if you're following basic film making principles. Quality control is also important, which is something Marvel has and WB doesn't.

 

[Boy Scout]

I don't disagree. A passable film would be just fine and would be a step in the right direction.

That's sad.

 

[jmc]

I'd rather they aim big and fail then go for the bare minimum. I'm so tired of watching these movies that don't try.

Believe me, I'm no fan of movies that don't try and received many a blow back from Marvel fans for saying that about their Phase One movies. But right now the DCEU is in no-mans land, it's leaderless, it's reactionary, it shifts in tone, things need to be brought under some semblance of control. That means going back to basics, doing something simple and then working their way up.

 

[Tra-El]

I'd rather they aim big and fail then go for the bare minimum. I'm so tired of watching these movies that don't try.

Absolutely. This X1000. In all reality, just saying "Hey Zack, just make a crowd pleaser!" and he'd go "Okay!" in the end, he's going to turn in his movie anyhow. No filmmaker or creator goes into something believing they're going to make a bad film that people hate, no matter what kind of studio interference there may be. I bet all of Zack's tricks and secrets he pulled during the shooting of BvS were ones he thought would hit with the fans and audience. It's basically just a hail marry attempt getting into a business of pleasing millions of people.

 

[kendalag]

Go big or go home. Passable is what makes so many of the Marvel movies unwatchable on Blu Ray months later. Sure I enjoy them in theaters, but holy smokes. I haven't even taken Civil War out of the Blu Ray packaging and I bought it the day it came out.

 

[Flint Marko]

"Passable" is better than what WB has been making, and I'm far from alone in thinking that.
Give me a film with a competently structured narrative and characters I like.

 

[brandeezy89]

In the 'final cut' didn't Batman have literally and I mean literally 90 seconds of actual screen time. No way any version of the film would be much different.

He claims that the Test Screening version of SS was the best CBM of last year

I know for a fact that this isn't true unless the person i saw the next day lied to me about everything she saw