A wrist device which manipulates web excretion betters both the comic and film interpretations through it giving Spider-Man a bigger arsenal from the previous films but staying faifthul to the concept that a man bitten by an arachnid absorbs its characteristics 'fully'. It shows a man who has accepted and embraced his new existence by melding the two concepts in an ever more intricate fashion. Whilst Spider-Man can have a utility belt I'd prefer it if the wrist device took that role exclusively (he can point and shoot bugs or tracking devices for instance).
What you've described isn't all that impressive though. Certainly not a great representation of Peter's vast intellect. It's akin to a garden hose or shower-head settings. It only serves to filter the substance and alter the type of output. I much prefer your initial idea that Peter studies silk secretions (be it from himself or spiders), and gets the idea to use it as web shooters.
I didn't need to be around for that long to recognise that given the thread author's limited 'brief' in his opening thread. This thread it seems was designed (at least in part) to provoke these sort of heated debates. Instead of discussing seriously, the merits of organic/artificial/hybrid concepts. We've given it to him on a plate. I'd rather tie this one off before we embarass ourselves further and waste even more virtual space.
I'm just correcting your original claim that this discussion hasn't been long battled. This is just a continuation of what was started nearly a decade ago in this very same place, whose original intention
was to gauge fans' thoughts on Raimi/Cameron's new idea.
Don't blame me for your myopia. You attributed (and you alone) that I accused others of being contrarian. To me, there is a distinction between wanting to be different (i.e. stylistically) and being opposed or against an idea. I made no suggestion that those individuals for the artificial web-shooters were being polemic at all. You interpreted an innocuous comment as being more aggressive or even accusatory. I merely felt inititially there was a sentiment to change that specific detail for the sake of it because it is different (and not because they didn't like organic webbing).
Let me give you a scenario: Everyone outside is wearing blue. I decide to wear red, because I prefer that color. That is a personal (stylistic) choice independent of outside factors. If I decided to wear red because I hated blue, or I did not want to follow the crowd, that is a conscious decision to go against the grain; i.e. purposefully different. The difference between the former and latter in decision-making is that the former does not have to consciously consider anything, as it happens naturally (e.g. I like red, I'll go out in red). You have suggested the
latter, which is distinctively analytical.
I commend your resilience, but drawing this out is nonsensical. Either admit you misspoke in meaning, or that you're wrong. I promise you no one will hold it against you. I misspoke earlier (infer instead of imply), and you rightfully corrected me. I'm ok with that. We all make mistakes.
I've already detailed my reasoning for the past preference of organics. To me, if I can accept a man bitten by a spider who then acquires the abilities that a spider possesses. Which requires one to suspend disbelief an awful lot. Then I don't see how I can oppose or dismiss the aforementioned idea without questioning how a man can receive spider abilities from an insect bite in the first place.
With all due respect, I do not care for you to explain your preference or your level of disbelief. These are both purely subjective and every person's right. To argue it is irrational. I've noted several times in this very thread if a person just says "I like organics", I will not contend it. When it extends to "I like organics, because logically it only makes sense..." -- that's when I'll butt in. That opens the door for expository dialog rooted in "logic" as it has been introduced.
Sam Raimi didn't bother with explaining anything beyond a genetically engineered spider transferring its powers to Peter Parker after biting him. So forget the "how would a spinneret-forearm work" when one has to explain how a genetically engineered/radioactive spider gives you its powers from a bite. You shouldn't separate the two. That's the whole point with Spider-Man. You do not need to explain all of it because we accept the whole premise fully. To me it seems absurd to separate one matter from others. It seems nonsensical. A criticism of "well it deviates from the comics" is perfectly fine although I don't agree with it (caveat: films tend to alter few details for thematic/dramatic purposes) but questioning organic web-production when you've already accepted everything else seems banal.
His powers HAVE been explained. I listed them for you. One has to first suspend their disbelief that powers can be transferred from a spider to a human in the first place. That is your biggest hurdle. Once that's over with, the rest follow through pretty easily. Spidey's powers all fall within the bounds of fringe science. It stretches the limits of plausibility, but rational nonetheless. Organic webbing (in the way Raimi has presented it)
stands out because it has
no foundations under biological or scientific principle. I don't mean a little, or a sliver.
None, whatsover.
I suspect you know this, because you have yet to successfully tackle the organics issue head-on. I've not read one statement backing up the concept, without relying on the inclusion of the other powers. That's not how one debates, that's circumventing the issue. So I'll make this real simple for you: can you debate the involvement of organics
alone under semi-logical terms without referencing outside agents or inconsistent methodical explanations?
Artificial web-shooters:
a) does he have more than one type of web? (I know he does in the comics but this can evolve over the trilogy)
b) what gives him inspiration to develope the web formula?
c) perhaps Peter Parker performed a dissection of a spider in order to study its web-producing ability (before being bitten)
d) if Peter Parker creates his own web-formula, what's the reason not to patent it?
a) That'd be up to how Peter configures the shooters. It's more than possible.
b) I'm personally not in favor of him solely developing it, as that does merit a great (albeit acceptable) amount of absurdity.
c) Prone to contrivances from a creative standpoint.
d) He's a superhero at that point. Either he risks exposing his identity, or you sacrifice the integrity of the character by seeking profits. It can be argued that the patent itself could solve all his problems while being a potential breakthrough technology for the world..but then you wouldn't have a Spider-Man