The Amazing Spider-Man Keep the ORGANICS or WEB SHOOTERS???!!!!

[Timstuff]

sorry but those don't compare to the genius design of webshooters.

They wouldn't fit under the costume, though. The only reason they get away with mechanical shooters in the cartoons and comics is because they're drawn, so the artists can cheat. They would have to be external gauntlet-like devices in live action, because otherwise they would make his writs look bulky and lumpy. This is a case of a logic leap that only comics and cartoons can make, so either you have to have bulky external shooters, or you have to change what the web shooters are.

 

[craigdbfan]

Maybe they can use the thin wrist brace design instead of the bulky inconvenient one. Although I prefer the organic shooters I don't mind either one.

 

[Scooter]

Web shooters are stupid. Aside from the technical complexity (really impossibility), producing silk is really the only one of Spider-man's abilities that is shared by all spiders. Spiders, generally speaking, aren't particularly strong for their size, or agile, or fast. Some of them can jump, so that's cool. But some of them can't even climb all that well. And none of them can see **** before it happens.

But they all produce silk. They all make webs. Stoo-pid.

 

[WormyT]

I would love to see mechanical Web Shooters. I always loved in the books when he would forget to reload them. It added another obstacle. Also I always wanted Toby to invent something in the movies, not just have tech-talk lunch with Dock Ock and Osborn.
But I doubt they will make that change.

 

[[A]]

I don't understand the logic behind mechanical web-shooters.. the guy's practically a spider but can't shoot web..? It's like Dog-Man: he can run in all four, bring you the newspaper and a stick, but he must carry around a small tape recorder, with sounds of dogs barking.. because he can't bark. Stupid.

 

[Backdrifter]

What about both? Why not organic web shooting that is really messy and random that needs to be focused by some kind of mechanical device?

 

[Jennifer Walters]

What about both? Why not organic web shooting that is really messy and random that needs to be focused by some kind of mechanical device?

That could potentially work. And get rid of the main thing that makes me hate the mechanical web shooters so much. The '''OH NOZ! I'VE RAN OUT OF FLUID AND I STILL HAVE NOT DEFEATED DOC OCK!" factor.

 

[Micah12345]

What about both? Why not organic web shooting that is really messy and random that needs to be focused by some kind of mechanical device?

That's a pretty interesting idea, and it elimates the 'farfetched-ness' of having peter design web fluid.

 

[Casius--J]

We've had organic web shooters already, I'd like to see them take a shot at going down the mechanical route.

I see the arguement that its far fetched but I think it would be interesting to see how plausible the creative team can make it.

 

[Golgo-13]

That is probably one of the dumbest things I have heard. I haven't seen that episode but thank god. A spider bite transfers knowledge of how to create a chemical web formula

haha

Ah, right, gotcha but a spider passing along a 'spider-sense' is completely sound.

We've had organic web shooters already, I'd like to see them take a shot at going down the mechanical route.

I see the arguement that its far fetched but I think it would be interesting to see how plausible the creative team can make it.

I love how now that organics have been done, ppl who would have never thought they'd like them are suddenly onboard, and that the mechanical web-shooter, which have worked since Spideys creation, are suddenly the element that's far-fetched.

 

[T-CLIPSE]

Ah, right, gotcha but a spider passing along a 'spider-sense' is completely sound.

I say yeah it is sound, a spider passing along an instinctive attribute (spider sense) seems more sound than a spider passing along mental awareness of how to create webbing, especially being that even the spider itself doesn't know the chemical properties of webbing in the first place, its body just biologically generates the stuff it doesn't know what the chemical properties of it are.

Passing along a physical attribute (ie: climbing walls, reflexes, strength, sense of balance and yes even the spider sense) are all instinctive physical attributes of the spider that through genetic transference is sensible, a spider transferring mental knowledge about how to recreate a biological substance through chemical science is another thing entirely.

 

[Crook]

why would you question it? you're watching a movie about a kid with super powers. the whole bloody thing doesn't make sense.

Fantasy doesn't set the grounds for throwing every matter of logic out the window. The upper limbs have no physiological basis for secreting any type of bodily fluid. The placement alone is strange if you weren't using it to justify Spider-Man's traditional display of powers.

I don't understand the logic behind mechanical web-shooters.. the guy's practically a spider but can't shoot web..? It's like Dog-Man: he can run in all four, bring you the newspaper and a stick, but he must carry around a small tape recorder, with sounds of dogs barking.. because he can't bark. Stupid.

Is it also stupid that Peter didn't grown any extra limbs? Criticizing lack of spider-features is not going to fly here. You either accept that not everything will be transferred, or you go all the way. Picking and choosing what fits your own preferences is the stupid part.

Since we're on the subject: we've somehow accepted that an extra sixth-sense (which doesn't exist btw) transfers to Peter. How is that any more ridiculous than Peter suddenly having the innate ability to "know" the proper formula for spider-silk? You mix that with Peter's mental capacity and intrigue, it's really not that far-fetched for him to find it out.

Anyone that's taken a week of Biology or Brain & Behavior should know animals and insects carry unique genetic traits that have been pre-programmed within them to behavior that sustains their survival. Honeybees knowing precisely where and how to travel back and forth from the nectar groundsite and their beehive, hundreds of soldier ants locking their arms together to form a bed for their queen in case of transportation, conspecific recognition, migration, etc etc.

 

[craigaat]

I don't care either way anymore, they'll probably cast highschoolmusical **** as PP anyway.

 

[T-CLIPSE]

I don't know why the mechanical ones were ever considered implausible.
1) We're talking about a certifiable scientific genius with no social life. Definitely not out of the realm of possibility that he would make them.

Okay ask yourself this question...if you portray Peter Parker as this "certifiable scientific genius" why in the world would he be running around taking freelance photo's with the damn Daily Bugle for a living?...how would you explain that a "certifiable scientific genius" can't even pay his own rent? If he's such a "certifiable scientific genius" he should go get a job with Stark Enterprises and tell J.J.J he can take his job and shove it.

In the comics Peter being exceptionally smart works, but on film not so much, it would just ring false.

A genius who's a photographer for a living....please man think.

 

[Dragon]

Ive heard rumors about these threads...

Organic all the way, web shooters are stupid.

Spiderman: "Ha ha I'm fighting. Oh wait I ran out of web fluid. Lemme go home and being a lower middle class kid make a scientific design that no other scientists with HUGE budgets make."

No thank you

But of course his developing an entirely new set of organs and circulatory system overnight to support them is plausiblr.

And- no one ever said that only Peter could create the webshooters. At the point of his first appearance characters in Marvel comics were regularly coming up with devices in their home laboratories. He simply has more use for therm than the scientists you mentioned.

If people can accept Tony Stark created futuristic technology in a cave while dying from heart damage, Peter making webshooters isn't much of a stretch.

 

[Crook]

Okay ask yourself this question...if you portray Peter Parker as this "certifiable scientific genius" why in the world would he be running around taking freelance photo's with the damn Daily Bugle for a living?...how would you explain that a "certifiable scientific genius" can't even pay his own rent? If he's such a "certifiable scientific genius" he should go get a job with Stark Enterprises and tell J.J.J he can take his job and shove it.

In the comics Peter being exceptionally smart works, but on film not so much, it would just ring false.

A genius who's a photographer for a living....please man think.

...he's in high school. By the time he even gets to college (which is already prestigious) he's juggling two lives. What college student do you know is holding a nice job position at a Fortune 500 company? Even the smart ones have to work their ass off to pay loans and maintain a student life.

Having the mental capacity to achieve great things can only complement your will to apply that knowledge. By all indications, Peter should be going on to do great things. But that requires full attention to his studies. Something he can't do.

 

[Dragon]

Okay ask yourself this question...if you portray Peter Parker as this "certifiable scientific genius" why in the world would he be running around taking freelance photo's with the damn Daily Bugle for a living?...how would you explain that a "certifiable scientific genius" can't even pay his own rent? If he's such a "certifiable scientific genius" he should go get a job with Stark Enterprises and tell J.J.J he can take his job and shove it.

In the comics Peter being exceptionally smart works, but on film not so much, it would just ring false.

A genius who's a photographer for a living....please man think.

So, you think that all geniuses do is crap out money-making ideas? Many great inventors have had to struggle. And seeing as Peter is a little distracted with the whole SAVING THE WORLD thing, it might make a dent in his creative time.

Anyway, Peter being someone who struggles despite his powers and abilities is kind of the point of the character.

 

[T-CLIPSE]

...he's in high school.

All of what you said is a good answer man but I still ain't buyin it. I maintain that if he was that smart he wouldn't even be in high school, he would already be in M.I.T with other students of his own intellect.

In my own opinion Spider-Man comes across more sensible when he's just this ordinary nerdy kid who just happens to be bitten by that spider. I think if you introduce the idea that he's this super smart kid with genius intellect who can create his own scientific chemical composition for webbing plus his own technological mechanical devices by which to project it just doesn't fit in the movie world of Spider-Man.

Bright and smart student Peter just feels more natural (and sensible) than a scientific and technological genius Peter.

 

[Dragon]

All of what you said is a good answer man but I still ain't buyin it. I maintain that if he was that smart he wouldn't even be in high school, he would already be in M.I.T with other students of his own intellect.

Because he made a device that's a glorified squirt gun? It isn't as if prior to the webshooters Peter had churned out numerous innovative inventions. And afterward, he had his ctime-finghting career to focus on.

In my own opinion Spider-Man comes across more sensible when he's just this ordinary nerdy kid who just happens to be bitten by that spider. I think if you introduce the idea that he's this super smart kid with genius intellect who can create his own scientific chemical composition for webbing plus his own technological mechanical devices by which to project it just doesn't fit in the movie world of Spider-Man.

Bright and smart student Peter just feels more natural (and sensible) than a scientific and technological genius Peter.

Right. It isn't as if that concept could turn into a top-selling comic book that would run for 50 years and become known around the world, inspiring a multi-billion dollar movie franchise. Oh yeah- it did.

 

[Immortalfire]

Organics rule all!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Vile]

I wouldnt mind seeing mechanical, since we've already seen organics.

 

[T-CLIPSE]

Because he made a device that's a glorified squirt gun?

A glorified squirt gun that projects a super strong adhesive compound of his own creation.

Right. It isn't as if that concept could turn into a top-selling comic book that would run for 50 years and become known around the world, inspiring a multi-billion dollar movie franchise. Oh yeah- it did.

And as I said before it works in the comic books where the entire Marvel Universe is littered with brilliant scientists, in a world where Reed Richards, Bruce Banner and Tony Stark exists a web shooter designer still looks ordinary, in the world of movies a web shooter designer would be extraordinary.

 

[BillyZaned]

yeah... a high schooler who invents mechanical webshooters???? Sorry, but that only works in the comics... not in a "real life" movie... in real life, the kid would be like "screw being a superhero, time to be a billionaire"...

 

[Nathan]

We had Tony Stark build a freaking miniature arc reactor in a cave... wait for it... wait a little longer... "With a box of scraps!" So we can have Peter Parker building darn webshooters that simply shoot out some liquid.

 

[BillyZaned]

Organics rule all!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and they make sense... the kid got his DNA crossed with a spider's.... having a secreation that ouputs webbing like a spider is alot easier to go with then... "hey, I got the powers of a spider, thank god I'm the worlds smartest man and am able to create wrist luanchers that spray out the worlds strongest substance, that I created"