The Amazing Spider-Man Keep the ORGANICS or WEB SHOOTERS???!!!!

[Nathan]

The cartridges are highly pressurized. They'd have enough fluid to pretty much web your whole room, should they explode.

 

[©KAW]

The mechanical web-shooters are wonderful devices, that should have been included into the original films. They're apart of Peter Parker's attributes in science and chemistry, and most importantly his ability to create.

 

[Project862006]

organic is more realistic and thats why it worked better i really dont want to see him run out of web during mid flight

 

[Nathan]

organic is more realistic and thats why it worked better i really dont want to see him run out of web during mid flight

This is just as much of a redundant argument as the butt one when talking of the realism of organics.

Why exactly does everyone automatically assume that he'd be running out of web-fluid every 5 minutes? And why wouldn't he run out of webbing just because they are organic? Is his webbing like Cyclops's Optic Blast and they originate from another dimension? Sooner or later he'd use up his resources if he'd keep swinging around town and plummet to his death. And now he isn't able to simply exchange a cartridge in a couple of seconds.

Organics aren't any more realistic than mechanical web-shooters. That's a fact.

 

[Project862006]

they do the same thing without having some device attached to his wrist

 

[Spider-Vader]

The powers of a "real" Spider? Well, then I guess he'll be bending over whenever he uses his web.

Pleeeeeeeeeeeease, tell me you know spiders' webbings don't come out of their asses.

If you want to go that way, then maybe Peter's spinnerets developed in his arms instead of around his butt.

 

[Boom]

What's the problem with him running out of webbing during a fight? Wouldn't that just add to the suspense?

 

[Gamma Goliath]

yeah i alway liked when he ran out in the cartoon, then he has to improvise to defeat his foes. plus the shooters show of his intelligence at a young age...

 

[Dr Tactics]

Now comes the matter of the web-fluid. There's been some good amount of brainstorming in here, which allows Peter to aquire the web-fluid without making it seem farfetched. Like having Dr. Conners and his team already working on the formular, but Peter is actually the one with an epiphany and he knows what is exactly missing to make the formular work.

I said I wouldn't come back till 2012 but for one, the whole logic if whether or not a high school kid can create a web fluid. We first have to realize that the adhesive DOESN'T WORK AT ALL. This PERFECT web fluid dissolves in a hour or so. What good is that?? except it works for Spiderman in what needs to be done. And thinking of organic webs and Raimi's perfectly Logical Spiderman world, real spider silk doesn't dissolve so all that webslinging in NYC makes for a Huge mess of Steel like strong,flexible web that no one can do anything with but you don't see webs all over the city.What happened to them?? So if he's gonna have the powers (and spider silk) what is to do with the Spider Silk mess in NYC??

 

[Nathan]

they do the same thing without having some device attached to his wrist

Except he can't modify his webbing at all. That's something he's able to do with mechanics. He's able to give it certain properties, that help him against certain opponents.

Like when he fought Hydro and knew his regular webbing wouldn't do anything against him. So he mixed a coagulant into his webbing which would react to Hydro's H2O and harden.

 

[©KAW]

Except he can't modify his webbing at all. That's something he's able to do with mechanics. He's able to give it certain properties, that help him against certain opponents.

Like when he fought Hydro and knew his regular webbing wouldn't do anything against him. So he mixed a coagulant into his webbing which would react to Hydro's H2O and harden.

Damn right!

And that's yet another reason why mechanical web-shooter are better!

 

[Dangerous]

This is just as much of a redundant argument as the butt one when talking of the realism of organics.

Why exactly does everyone automatically assume that he'd be running out of web-fluid every 5 minutes? And why wouldn't he run out of webbing just because they are organic? Is his webbing like Cyclops's Optic Blast and they originate from another dimension? Sooner or later he'd use up his resources if he'd keep swinging around town and plummet to his death. And now he isn't able to simply exchange a cartridge in a couple of seconds.

Organics aren't any more realistic than mechanical web-shooters. That's a fact.

Plus running out of web via a web cartridge running empty while either in a fight or whilst webslinging makes Spidey think on his feet and produces more exciting scenarios and shows his ingenuity.

 

[Dangerous]

Except he can't modify his webbing at all. That's something he's able to do with mechanics. He's able to give it certain properties, that help him against certain opponents.

Like when he fought Hydro and knew his regular webbing wouldn't do anything against him. So he mixed a coagulant into his webbing which would react to Hydro's H2O and harden.

Hell yea.

I actually forgot this additional reason why mechs are better while I was kicking Mach2Infinity's ass a couple of pages ago.

 

[3dman27]

mechanical webshooters

 

[OctaviusINC]

Personally, I'm with the mechanical webshooters.

But I liked the organic webshooters too.

I mean, I think we know how the writers are going to implement the mechanical webshooters. Spidey's going to be laying the smackdown on a villain but oh noes! He's out of webbing! So the villain takes advantage and fights back. I think that will be the main difference between the 2 the further we get into this 'new" franchise. We didn't have to worry about webbing in Raimi's vision.

 

[The Lizard]

organic is more realistic and thats why it worked better

Reasons why the organic webs are NOT any more "realistic":

1. Real spiders don't spin webs as fast as Spidey does. The sheer amount of webbing that comes out of Spidey's shooters and the speed with which he dispenses it is FAR faster than any spider could produce webs from its spinnerets.

2. The pressure needed to shoot webs as far as Spidey does makes more sense coming from a mechanical pressurized container. Even taking into account Spidey's increased muscle strength, the amount of force needed to shoot webs hundreds of feet every few seconds while webswinging is beyond the capacity of a couple of small glands located in Peter's wrists.

3. The amount of organic webbing generated by Peter's body would be way too large. Since Spidey generates and shoots this webbing so quickly, where is all this webbing stored? How much food does Peter have to eat to generate that much organic material from his own body to be squirted off every few seconds while swinging?

4. Organic spider webs do NOT dissolve quickly like Spidey's webbing is supposed to do in the comics. If Spidey's organic webbing is supposed to actually be like a spider's, except larger, then Spidey's webs should be hanging all over New York and making a mess for weeks after he spins those webs. The artificial webbing is designed to dissolve in an hour or so for this exact reason.



The only way that mechanical shooters are less "realistic" is the fact that the mech shooters would be visible under Spidey's tight costume in real life. I think this is the real reason the organic shooters were used in the Raimi movies -- for aesthetic purposes instead of logical reasoning.

 

[Crook]

No, I don't think that's it at all. Movie-magic explains why shooters aren't seen under the costume. You only need to browse the posts here to see the true reason organics were made; it's a simplistic concept that obviously requires little to no thought.

Spiders shoot webs + Spidey shoots webs from wrists = Organics

It's evident people either don't care or are too dumb to pick apart the already flimsy design.

 

[Carcharodon]

I didn't mind organics at all. I thought it was a cool idea. However, I'd like to see mechanical shooters this time around. It IS a reboot, after all, so let's try something "new."

 

[Mac_Hine]

What's the problem with him running out of webbing during a fight? Wouldn't that just add to the suspense?

Exactly! That's why I'm for webshooters!

 

[Chris Wallace]

Seems to me the pro-organics side keeps defeating its own argument by offering illogical defenses.
Look, if they can work the mechs into the story in a way that reasonably makes sense, I'm all for it.

 

[SpeterMan3]

organic is more realistic and thats why it worked better i really dont want to see him run out of web during mid flight

Did you miss Spider-Man 2?

 

[Chris Wallace]

Did you miss Spider-Man 2?

Good point, good point. Any way you slice it, his webbing failed him 3 times in that movie WITHOUT the benefit of spare cartridges.
Here's a question for the pro-mechs side: Do you want him to have a utility belt (hidden underneath the costume, of course)with spare cartridges or just depend on what's in the bracelet?
Another question: Do you think his other gadgets (tracers, Spider-Signal, maybe even stingers and/or impact webbing) could ever be introduced into the movies?

 

[Nathan]

Stinger and impact webbing was part of Ben Reilly's arsenal I believe, but since we'll probably never see the clone saga on screen, I wouldn't mind if they give Peter these things in later movies. Except for the stingers, I'm not a fan of those.

But I'd definitely love to see the Spider-tracers introduced.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Good point, good point. Any way you slice it, his webbing failed him 3 times in that movie WITHOUT the benefit of spare cartridges.
Here's a question for the pro-mechs side: Do you want him to have a utility belt (hidden underneath the costume, of course)with spare cartridges or just depend on what's in the bracelet?
Another question: Do you think his other gadgets (tracers, Spider-Signal, maybe even stingers and/or impact webbing) could ever be introduced into the movies?

I'd say belt, but wouldn't he look chunky?
The other gadgets, I say yes, but probably progressively, as he develops, he makes new gadgets and not all at first.

 

[Spectacular23]

In the Iron Man movie, Tony Stark built a circuit board at age four and an engine at age six. I have yet to hear anyone complain about how "unrealistic" that was.

So it's okay for 6-year-old Tony Stark to build an engine, but it's not okay for 15-year-old Peter Parker to develop a mechanical device that shoots adhesive fluid at the touch of a button?

Okay then .

LMFAO.