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There has been no Barman on the screen yet.
Correct, there has been no Barman.
There has been no Barman on the screen yet.
I can see where people come from regarding Bales Batman voice. Though I think the concept works for the Nolanverse. We often suspend our disbelief in the area of secret identities. Its a totally different tone, but ala the 60s show, we have Bruce Wayne dealing with Gordon and then as Batman for example without changing his voice at all. The Nolanverse has different aims and attempts to have us suspend our disbelief less. So having something more extreme, pushing the growl as described in Year One to the limit to differentiate the two characters makes sense here I think.
I can see where people come from regarding Bale’s Batman voice. Though I think the concept works for the Nolanverse. We often suspend our disbelief in the area of secret identities. It’s a totally different tone, but ala the 60s show, we have Bruce Wayne dealing with Gordon and then as Batman for example without changing his voice at all. The Nolanverse has different aims and attempts to have us suspend our disbelief less. So having something more extreme, pushing the growl as described in Year One to the limit to differentiate the two characters makes sense here I think.
My Two cents:
In BOTH of Nolan's Bat-films, Christian Bale made The Batman sound as if he had to urgently rush to the bathroom to relieve himself lest he crap his shorts. It was a distracting train wreck of a voice that was LAUGHABLY bad.
As Bruce Wayne, Bale is properly pompous, arrogant, breezy and carefree. The perfect picture of a billionaire playboy. But as The Batman sigh
This is partially the scripts fault, and partially his own. Bale explained in an interview that he chose that voice to seem more animal-like. And defenders of Bales Bat-performance have explained that the voice is a realistic way for The Batman to erase all connections between himself and Bruce Wayne.
But consider this: If The Baman had remained a basically silent spooky character, (as he had been in the comics years ago), this might NEVER have been an issue to begin with.
Even more importantly: All of the very best Batman comic book writers and editors are in unanimous agreement that the real disguise is NOT The Batman. It is instead Bruce Wayne. The true persona the true individual occupying that host body is The Bat. So anything fake, artificial, or manufactured for the purpose of creating a distance between the two personalities should be connected to Bruce Wayne not The Batman. It is Bruce Waynes voice that would have been consciously pitched higher and made more jovial and silly, while the Batman speaks (very sparingly) in his true un-disguised voice full of outrage, pain, and brooding. A Clint Eastwood-like whisper spoken from the shadows would have gone a LONG way toward scaring the HELL out of anyone. Bales Batman voice was downright laughable. It sounded painfully forced like a child play-acting on what a tough guy should sound like. It was horrible. And it was a clear indication of Bales poor understanding of this character.
Kevin Conroy other the other hand understood this principle beautifully (with varying degrees of success), and this is why he is probably considered the definitive voice for The Batman by many, many fans.
In the comics, there have been instances (even in recent years), where Alfred Pennyworth has had to use his experience as a stage actor to actually coach Bruce Wayne on what his silly, frivolous playboy voice should sound like (in order to create a greater separation from The Batman). I say again: Wayne is the manufactured personality with the fake "put on" voice. NOT The Batman.
Both Nolan and Bale missed this basic point entirely.
I love how Conroy understood the difference between the personas.
I'm not going to bash either guy. Conroe and Bale are the two definitive Batman actors, in my opinion. For the most part, I like Bale's Batvoice, apart from, "I'm not wearing HOCKEY PAAAAAAAADSSSSS!!!!" But say what you will about it, it's become iconic. Ask a random Joe on the street to, "Do a Batman voice," odds are they'll do Bale's growl.