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From the Toronto Sun and Toronto Star:

HARD CANDY FOR LEDGER

Fri, September 8, 2006

By JIM SLOTEK, TORONTO SUN

It turns out heroin and sex have one thing in common, at least in the world of movie censors -- penetration is a no-no.

"I did one scene they didn't end up using," says Heath Ledger of the junkie-romance Candy, which debuts tonight at the Toronto filmfest. "It was near the end of the movie when I inject again (after being clean). There was a shot that we had, a tight shot of my arm, and I slipped the needle in and pulled back until you saw the blood, and then they went off it onto my face.

"I actually injected. It had water colour and sugar in it to make it look watery brown. And then we found out that was the difference between a (Mature) rating and an R. The penetration. When it looked like it was going in and it didn't really go in, that was okay."

Based on a best-selling novel by Australian Luke Davies (who also scripted), Candy is the story of a junkie poet (Ledger) and his artist girlfriend Candy (Abbie Cornish) and their descent in acts called "Heaven," "Earth" and "Hell."

Ledger was at TIFF last year with another tragic romance you might have heard of called Brokeback Mountain. You'd normally follow something like that with a comedy, and Ledger did with the movie Casanova.


"That's why I had the energy to be dark again, because I'd been in bloody Venice drinking too much wine and eating."

By way of research, he says "Abbie and I went to this narcotics users association in Australia, and we met a guy who'd been addicted to heroin for, like, 20 years. And he took us through the steps of how to shoot up. He took a prosthetic arm with veins and blood bags and showed us how to find the vein and the angle to slip the needle in.

"I've smoked pot before, and I know what it feels like to be high. But I've never been addicted to anything other than cigarettes, although that's quite a f---in' addiction. Also the subject of heroin ... there's so many television documentaries and shows and movies and books, you kind of feel you know how they do it, even if you've never been anywhere near it."

Candy is actually the first Australian movie Ledger has been in for eight years -- quite a long time to bury his Aussie accent. "And I'm constantly looking for material in Australia just for that reason. It's so liberating to perform without an accent. But all the good writers and filmmakers in Australia get swept up and go to Hollywood. So we're kind of left with the very fresh and up-and-coming filmmakers." (Candy director Neil Armfield is a veteran theatre director new to feature films).

Candy marked a hiatus of another sort as well. It was the last movie Ledger would do for 18 months -- a paternity leave he breaks next Tuesday when he starts filming Todd Haynes' Bob Dylan-inspired surrealist movie I'm Not There with Michelle Williams, his fiancee and mother of their 11-month-old daughter Matilda. In fact, he found out she was pregnant while filming Candy.

I'm Not There (for which Dylan has agreed to provide music), has been called a biopic. "But no one's playing Bob Dylan. Even the title, I'm Not There ... well, he's not there. There are sort of Dylan -inspired characters, but Cate Blanchett looks the most like Bob Dylan. In fact, she looks exactly like Bob Dylan. It's very surrealistic and incredibly ambitious. I'm more curious about this than anything else I've been a part of."

Come January, he starts playing the Joker, in Christopher Nolan's next Batman film The Dark Knight. "It's definitely going to stump people. I think it'll be more along the lines of how the Joker was meant to be in the comics, darker and more sinister."

As for the maternity/paternity leave "we've just been living in Brooklyn and really committing our time to Matilda. We've just been letting it kind of consume us. We wanted to distance ourselves, and we couldn't think of anything better to do than wake up to play with our child.

"That's the biggest gift this industry has given us, is the ability to do that."
Ledger finds balance at own pace

Sep. 8, 2006. 01:00 AM
PETER HOWELL
MOVIE CRITIC



There seems to be no danger of the phenomenal success of Brokeback Mountain going to Heath Ledger's head.

The gangly Aussie actor doesn't set high expectations for himself, so his Oscar nomination for playing closeted cowboy Ennis Del Mar is being treated like a bonus for a job well done, rather than his just dues.

"My expectations are always very low about how movies that I'm in are going to be received," Ledger said last night, relaxing in a hotel suite after arriving in Toronto from Montreal.

"It was a really pleasant surprise."

The role has opened doors for him. The 27-year-old Ledger had been marked early in his career for heartthrob and action hero roles, in movies like A Knight's Tale (2001) and The Four Feathers (2002).

They didn't sit well with him but the experiences led to the first of what he calls multiple epiphanies as to how he really wants his career to go, seeking more challenging and interesting roles.

He's been in Montreal preparing for next week's start of shooting of his segment of I'm Not There, Todd Haynes' unusual Bob Dylan biopic that's based on artistic impressions of the rock legend. Also in the film is Michelle Williams, Ledger's spouse, and their fellow Aussie Cate Blanchett, who also plays a version of Dylan.

After that Ledger will stretch even further, playing the villainous joker in Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight, another vision of the Batman story.

But right now he's talking about Candy, a film in the Toronto festival directed by Australia's Neil Armfield, in which Ledger plays a junkie poet heading into a skid alongside his devoted girlfriend Candy, played by Abbie Cornish:

QOne of the hardest parts of being an actor is fighting against what people want you to be as opposed to what you want to be. How have you found it that way?

AYeah! It's a struggle with artists in general, conforming to commerce and people's expectations and opinions. I definitely try to stay true to what pleases me and what's going to give me growth. I try.

QDid you have any epiphany where you said, "I'm going to start taking control of my life and do the roles I want to?"

AI did, actually. I've had a couple of them. It was right around the time when I was doing A Knight's Tale and my face was on the posters and it was also a little frustrating for me because I felt like people were able to see my performance when I didn't feel like it was ready to be seen. It felt like I was being pushed out in such a massive way at a time when I didn't really know what I was doing.

That was one epiphany, to put the brakes on. And I also felt my career was being handed to me on a platter and I didn't feel I deserved it. I decided to stamp it out a little bit, and put it in reverse, and see if I could start from scratch.

QWhat was your second epiphany?

AIt was very similar to the first, and the second and the third ... and I continue to have them. They're all based around striving to be true to myself. To be true to humanity and try to tell stories about people, not to just be part of a plot or an advertisement campaign.

QYour character of Dan in Candy is amazing. Did you base him on any other character you've seen, oranybody you knew?

ADan was inspired by Luke Davies, the author of the book Candy and the co-screenwriter of the film. He was a drug addict for a period of time in his life. He was around on the set all the time to prep us on how to operate. I was so excited to be working with my own accent again that I thought that would bring enough of the character. It had been eight years since I used my own accent (in a movie).

QAbbie Cornish and you work together very well as the couple.

AYes, she's a very explosive, instinctual and exciting actor to work with. I've never really worked with anyone who can go from zero to 60 in one second. She quite actually goes from just relaxing and talking and mucking around to that birthing scene. Just in two seconds flat.

QThat's a tough scene, the baby one. It's going to upset some viewers. It upset me watching it.

AIt's a pretty heavy scene. I actually found out four weeks before that Michelle and I were having a baby. It wasn't the nicest of scenes to be playing.

QI guess everybody asks you this, but have you ever had experience with drugs?

AYeah, but not heroin. Not heavy drugs like that. I've smoked pot and I know what it's like to be high. The only thing I've been addicted to is cigarettes.

QCan you tell me about playing Bob Dylan and working with Todd Haynes in I'm Not There?

AI'm one of about seven people who are kind of playing him. I'm actually playing an actor who plays in a movie as a character, and his character is a Bob Dylanesque kind of guy played by Christian Bale. So I'm kind of playing Christian Bale, who's not playing Bob Dylan. Michelle is actually working on it, as well. She's shooting as we speak. And I saw Cate Blanchett the other day on set and it's just striking. She looks like Bob Dylan, from a distance. It's really quite remarkable.

Todd is an exciting filmmaker. And everyone I've spoken with so far has said that he's a genius and it's the most creative process they've all been a part of. I'm really excited about it. I start on Tuesday. I've just been rehearsing by myself in Montreal, working on accents. I have to come up with two accents: I have my character and his character's accent.

QHow about playing the Joker in The Dark Knight? I have to admit, I would never have thought of you for the role.

AI wouldn't have thought of me, either. But it's obviously not going to be what Jack Nicholson did. It's going to be more nuanced and dark and more along the lines of a Clockwork Orange kind of feel. Which is, I think, what the comic book was after: less about his laugh and more about his eyes.

QDo you think that playing the difficult role of Ennis in Brokeback Mountain made people view you in a different light?

ADefinitely. It really opened a lot of doors. Since those doors have been opened, Todd Haynes' film and the Joker are really the only two things I've reaped from it, but it's been good.
Source: http://torontosun.com/Entertainment/Movies/2006/09/08/1814028-sun.html
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...149&call_pageid=968867495754&col=969483191630
 
Aww great! That is good news. Can't wait for the actual costume pic.
 
Wow, Ledger seems to get it.

"Less about his laugh and more about his eyes."

Classic. Subtle, but right-to-the-point.
 
Squee.

That's pretty exciting to hear (see?) him say.
 
ooooooOOOO!!!
i just got the chill.
thankies sooooo much for that!
 
very good find retro

I really start to like ledger as a person the way we all feel for Bale. he is in no way the tom cruise kind of guy (phew).
Especially the fact that he acctually injected in Candy makes me believe in him as an actor.

"I wouldn't have thought of me, either"

that made me laugh.

"It's going to be more nuanced and dark and more along the lines of a Clockwork Orange kind of feel."

and that one got me crying of happiness almost. CO is one of everyones favourites i guess.
 
Shedhut said:
CO is one of everyones favourites i guess.[/COLOR][/B]
TOTALLY!!
it's a movie that makes your stomach turn at times but you just can't stop watcing the damn thing.
it's a cult classic and will live on forever!!
and the fact that Ledger admitted that The Dark Knight will have that same kind of feel is soooooo exciting! i just can't wait.
but i have to.
but i can't.
oh it's maddening.
 
Great find, man! Should be on the front page! So, Ledger haturz, how does THAT sound?

When he talked about the eyes, I immediately remembered the classic Killing Joke scene where Joker just emerged from the river and laughs maniacally for the first time... I was a teenager and that absolutely fantastic Brian Bolland art of his maniacal eyes made a mark in me for life...
 
I'm not a big fan of A Clockwork Orange, but I could see Joker having a bit of Alex's personality traits. Flamboyant and screwy, and definitely psychotic. They might as well rip the scene were Alex walks into the music shop in his purple suit and put it into The Dark Knight. ;)
 
Cool news I wonder if Ledger read Batman comic that features Joker?
 
Do you think CO would have gotten an R-rating if there was no nudity at all. Im just interested in how far they can push the limit for a pg13 with all the things we've heard.
 
I found this even more interesting:

QCan you tell me about playing Bob Dylan and working with Todd Haynes in I'm Not There?

AI'm one of about seven people who are kind of playing him. I'm actually playing an actor who plays in a movie as a character, and his character is a Bob Dylanesque kind of guy played by Christian Bale. So I'm kind of playing Christian Bale, who's not playing Bob Dylan. Michelle is actually working on it, as well. She's shooting as we speak. And I saw Cate Blanchett the other day on set and it's just striking. She looks like Bob Dylan, from a distance. It's really quite remarkable.
 
Cant wait to see the Joker induldge in a bit of the ol' ultraviolence.

a_clockwork_orange_05.jpg
 
i friggin' love this news !!!! can't wait to see ledger !!!!!!!!!!
 
chosen1 said:
whats clockwork orange?
To put it bluntly, the best movie ever made about "youth gone mad". What makes it so masterful is the young gang guys in the movie are frikking horrendous, but the State that captures Alex proves to be even worse, making him the subject of a horrifying mental conditioning experiment. All those scenes you see in movies or shows of a guy having his eyes somehow locked open to be forced to watching TV or something, that´s a CO tribute/parody.
 
I'm a HUGH Macolm McDowell Fan (If it was the early '70s, and they was making a Batman movie, he would be great for the Joker) but I was somewhat disapointed in 'A Clockwork Orange'. Although I'm a fan of Stanley Kubrick work.

I think the thing with me is, I saw ACO after years and years of hearing how great it was from friends and even some teachers when I was in college and then I finally saw it and was very underwhelmed, although I know the history behind it as well as the controversy when it first came out in '71 (it was banned from theatres in a lot of countries, and only recently re-issued on tape/DVD in England after Kubrick's death)

However if the Joker is going to patterned after the character of Alex, then that will be interested to see this on screen. becasue Alex was very devious in his bout of the old 'Ultra Violence in a very sadistic manner (see the scene with the old couple in ACO). And that could play off quite well in Nolan's style of directing the Joker's antics.
 
Great find Retro!!

Ledger seems to have a good grip on the character already. I like it.
 
Shedhut said:
Do you think CO would have gotten an R-rating if there was no nudity at all. Im just interested in how far they can push the limit for a pg13 with all the things we've heard.

Clockwork Orange was originally rated 'X' in America and it was moreso for the depiction of a sadistic violence teen culture than the nudity.
 

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