Legion LEGION S1E8 - "Chapter 8" (Spoilers)

[Kane52630]

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[Sithborg]

I like this thread better.

 

[Kaleb]

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[Sithborg]

Excited for it.

 

[Black Narcissus]

 

[Smilodon]

Great artwork.

Very excited for the finale. But I'm bummed, because after this we'll have to wait until next year to get anything for the X-Men universe.

 

[Ryan1210]

I think we'll get a trailer for Deadpool 2/New Mutants/whatever comes out on March 2018. If that's counted haha.

 

[Weather Witch]

Really, really excited for the season finale!

 

[Lilbaz]

Really sad that next week might be the final time we see lenny.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Sad it's the last episode but excited for the finale at the same time!

 

[Kaleb]

 

[David H.]

Hmm... will a wheelchair be involved?

 

[Kaleb]

One can only hope.

 

[Weather Witch]

Not helping with keeping my expectations low. t:

 

[Smilodon]

I'm curious, do you guys want to expand even further into the X-verse next season? Or would you rather keep the tie-ins a bit more limited? I'm a bit ambivalent on it.

I'd like to see what Hawley would do with other characters based on the comics (take Z-listers like NTW and kinda play around with them) but also, I wouldn't mind keeping the inhabitants of Summerland playing around by themselves. A few more wink and nods (like what we've been getting) would satisfy me just fine.

 

[Weather Witch]

I'm curious, do you guys want to expand even further into the X-verse next season? Or would you rather keep the tie-ins a bit more limited? I'm a bit ambivalent on it.

I'd like to see some acknowledgements of events that happened in the movie, the occasional character like Shadow King that comes from the comics, and hopefully Charles Xavier. Other than that I'm good with the show mostly being a stand-alone thing. However I do think that Legion could use some very minor characters and turn them into something really cool. But only if Hawley thinks they fit the show.

 

[Smilodon]

Yeah, acknowledging the school or a throwaway line like, "Mutants have actually been public knowledge since the 70s", or "Alkali Transigen" might be an easy way to tie things in.

I'm just not totally sure about Legion delving fully into Charles and stuff. It'll be interesting how they kinda juggle that from here on out.

 

[Weather Witch]

Yeah, acknowledging the school or a throwaway line like, "Mutants have actually been public knowledge since the 70s", or "Alkali Transigen" might be an easy way to tie things in.

Exactly. Even if it is one of those background announcements we've been getting in Summerland.

I'm just not totally sure about Legion delving fully into Charles and stuff. It'll be interesting how they kinda juggle that from here on out.

Well I don't want season 2 to focus only on 'the search for Charles Xavier', but I think it wouldn't make sense if David didn't at least try to find him. I think an appearance in the long term can't really be avoided. Doesn't even mean we'll physically see Sir Patrick Stewart or James McAvoy (though I hope we do), but this episode already showed they can do Xavier stuff without those actors.

 

[Roose Bolton]

More classic, yet less-known characters like Shadow King would be a welcome thing.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah i am happy for the links to stay vague for the moment but perhaps they can explore things a bit later. I hope they link it to the movies as well though, just a glimpse of Xavier's chair was great to see in the last episode.

 

[David H.]

Y'know, I'd be okay if this had its own unique version of Charles. It won't, but maybe it would be better if this had an alternate universe take where the X-Men weren't as prolific or, perhaps, never even existed.

That would probably mean finding a new actor for the role.

Maybe...

Spoiler

 

[Steelsheen]

thanks for posting this. i usually turn it off as soon as the credits starts playing.

Y'know, I'd be okay if this had its own unique version of Charles. It won't, but maybe it would be better if this had an alternate universe take where the X-Men weren't as prolific or, perhaps, never even existed.

That would probably mean finding a new actor for the role.

Maybe...

Spoiler

he's playing a Starfleet Captain in the new Star Trek series. might be difficult to book him due to scheduling or franchise optics reasons.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Smilodon]

This show is already the best superhero TV show out there, and I'm excited to see how it sticks its landing. Gotta keep hype levels under control like I had to with Logan!

Also, some reading before the finale to satiate your Legion appetite!

Was there anything you wrote or shot that was just too bizarre for this season?

No. Everything is there for a reason, which is to help you understand David better and to see the world through his eyes. The season was constructed that, in the beginning as David didn't know what anything meant, we were seeing subjectively a lot of imagery that was divorced from information. The devil with the yellow eyes in the first hour was just a glimpse of something monstrous. Of course, the more [David] learned, the more we learned. In the end, now that he's very clear on everything going on, we are as well. It was never my goal to create something with style over substance.

In terms of the scope of the show, should we consider it to be an alternate timeline narrative like those explored in the newer X-Men films?

David's origin story is the same as in the comics. That said, we know even from the movies these last couple of years that the timeline has changed. The X-Men tell stories in alternative universes, so there are many universes where Professor X could be David's father. I don't feel that I've limited myself to present day America, or now lost the ability to make this world its own world because we know who David's father is. Moving forward, I don't have it all worked out yet as to what the second season will entail. What viewers responded to about the show is its inventiveness, and its sense of emotional grounding, if not literal grounding. I want to continue to deliver something unexpected and where the possibilities are, if not infinite, are playful.

Do you have a sense of when Season 2 will premiere?

Our goal is to hit the same airdate next year. All that means is a lot more work for me in the future but I've got nobody to blame but myself.

Should fans expect more connections to stories from the X-Men world?

As we do with Fargo fans who are really familiar with that world, they appreciate certain connections and being rewarded for knowing the story so well. At the same time, my goal is to always use character as a way to have a conversation, and tell a story that was my story and was interesting to me to try and get to the heart of who this character is and this journey for him without re-enacting storylines from the comic book. So you won't see the show suddenly be beholden to the comic books for storyline, but you may see ideas, characters or images that are familiar to you.

Aside from David, the mutant characters in Legion are original to your story. Did you craft them with their power in mind first?

The powers tend to come more from the function of character than the reverse. The love story at the heart of the show is complicated and not a sure thing in terms of its long-term viability. It became interesting to me to think of Syd as untouchable on a certain level. There's a physical challenge that makes it impossible to be together so I thought that justified the power, and that created a person on some level. You can't touch people without consequences, which is psychologically more interesting for me. And as I was thinking about the two Cary's and populating this world and considering how many characters can I justify, I thought about having two characters in one body. I could have one of them at a time -- like the female is more action-oriented and the male is more science-focused. The fact they live in the same body means when I need action I can have one, or brains when I need it, or I can play with them both as a collective whole. I use the genre as a way to boost and intensify the personalities of the characters.

You often cast comedians, such as Aubrey Plaza, Bill Irwin, or Jemaine Clement, in dramatic roles. What does that unexpected casting afford you when it comes to storytelling?

It's something that I am attracted to in general, and something that I did in Fargo as well, which is to take comedic personas and put them in dramatic roles, or take dramatic personas and put them in more comedic roles, or at least give them both sides of the coin to play. I'm not a big believer in typecasting but I also think there's a certain energy that an actor playing comedy can bring to dramatic roles. Usually comedic actors are more spontaneous and have an Improv background. We don't improvise on the show but you take actors and putting them outside their comfort zone and that tends to lead to really interesting work. With a performer like Aubrey Plaza, there's no other actor who fills that space or the same with Jemaine. It's not like you can get the "next best Jemaine" because he's such a specific persona and that becomes part of the character's DNA which I find interesting.

In executing the huge ambition of the series, are there lessons you learned that you'll apply to producing Season 2?

There are a lot of things we have to contend with. We have a limited budget. We want to try and make 10 episodes. Now we have the opportunity to broaden it, but practically it's a very hard show to make. There is a lot of stuff we have to invent. Aside from episodes two and three, no two episodes are alike. In terms of the producibility, we can think in terms of block shooting and shooting episodes in pairs. You want to be as Inventive as possible, but then you have to put on your producer hat and ask how do I actually make this? I find those limitations a creative challenge when you don't have all the money in the world to throw at VFX. How do I make something people haven't seen before and not break the bank?

The Devil with the Yellow Eyes looks like the X-Men character, Mojo. How did that character design for the show come about?

It was a conversation I had with our production designer, Michael Wylie. He said he was obsessed with the reality show, My 600-Pound Life, which I hadn't seen. But I did respond to the idea that whatever was inside of David, was feeding on him over time and as a result, there was something engorged and tick-like, so it had been feeding and reached a very corpulent state. So our approach in looking at the season and the full title, the Uncanny X-Men, and the word uncanny, along with an essay by Freud about the uncanny. It's about the supernatural, and why people are afraid of the things they are afraid of. The thing that scares us the most is when familiar things operate in unfamiliar ways. A house shouldn't be haunted house. It freaks us out because that's not what a house should be. And there's something similar in the idea that we have a visceral, human reaction when we see human beings of [the demon's] size because that's not how humans were designed to be; that large. Then we found this 6'8" skinny guy and we built the suit around him so that adds to unnaturalness. It's designed to have visceral impact.

http://www.blastr.com/2017-3-27/lea...ley-talks-x-men-inspirations-casting-and-more

On a potential Charles Xavier appearance

“I think that’s something we’re definitely going to approach,” he told reporters. “It’s a creative conversation, but it’s also a sort of corporate conversation, you know, on some level, in terms of the movie studio and their relationship to the X-Men and the characters they want in the movies and want to protect potentially. And were we to want to have Professor X on the show, or even Patrick Stewart on the show, James McAvoy or one of those actors, is a conversation both with the actor and with the studio. So, I don’t know, I haven’t really dived into that quandary yet, but certainly I need to start thinking about it.”

http://www.cbr.com/legion-season-2-xavier-comics/

 

[Kane52630]