Lexi Script - My Review

[Balthus Dire]

...so, why were the script reviews online generally all positive if you guys are insisting that it's so bad?

 

[S. Grundy]

...so, why were the script reviews online generally all positive if you guys are insisting that it's so bad?

I've only read one script review that was positive and one that was luke warm, the others weren't positive at all.

If this was the re-write of what came earlier, I understand why Jane left, it's cheesy and laughably over the top.

But, taste is subjective.

 

[Wolverine11222]

...so, why were the script reviews online generally all positive if you guys are insisting that it's so bad?

Heres another positive script review I found on IMDB.com

Keep in mind this is NOT based on the shooting draft, many things have been changed in the final draft.

SPOILERS

Action: These scenes are brutal, Castle pounds an enemy's nose into his skull, breaks a woman's neck, blows a thug in half, lots of brains fly out from headshots. Castle holds weapons and clears rooms like a soldier. The final action scene is like a battlefield, it's a true warzone. The Frank verses LBJ fight is exciting and has a disgustingly violent end that should shock audiences.

Characters & Dialog:
-Frank doesn't have any cheesy one-liners.
-His hideout isn't the sewers.
-Without getting sappy, the story makes you admire Frank yet still feel a great deal of pity for him. This is the one hero you don't fantasize about becoming one day.

-I'm confident the "Billy is dead, call me Jigsaw" line will work. Before the line's delivery, they throw us a symbolism scene as to why he'd name himself that, so its not random nonsense. Remember, Lexi Alexander said in her blog: "Dominic made Jigsaw so much more than he was on the page".
-Jigsaw and LBJ are badass villains, not pushovers
-The main characters are 3 dimensonal, they were all interesting.
-It never got boring, the pacing was nice and it felt like a big thrill ride.

-Some people complained the plot was predictable, I knew lots of info before reading yet I was still caught off gaurd with a few surprises. The build up for the action is done well, actually got my blood pumping a few times! The movie has a solid ending, I was more than satisfied.

I give it an 8/10, it's on par with Ennis on MAX. I've heard the shooting script has improved upon the version I read. I did have some minor complaints, but even if they aren't fixed this will still be a great movie.

 

[S. Grundy]

Yeah, there aren't one liners but there is a lot cheesy cliched stuff in it like:

Spoiler

"Goddamnit kid, don't die on me."

etc...

And

Spoiler

Billy comes up with the name Jigsaw by looking at a puzzle.

It's still cheesy and stupid. Yeah, I know it's one line of dialouge, not a big deal, but it's still dumb.

That's either an earlier draft or they did get around to changing a lot of stuff, no way to really know.

 

[Balthus Dire]

I've only read one script review that was positive and one that was luke warm, the others weren't positive at all.

If this was the re-write of what came earlier, I understand why Jane left, it's cheesy and laughably over the top.

But, taste is subjective.

I'm pretty sure LatinoReview posted a very positive review of the script as well. In fact, you guys are the first I've heard complain about the script.

 

[Gotham]

...so, why were the script reviews online generally all positive if you guys are insisting that it's so bad?

http://latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=8

That's the only review I've seen them do of a Punisher screenplay.

 

[SWAT]

That's the old script. The first review CHUD did wasen't good.

 

[ObakeTora]

Latinoreview gave a positive review for the very old script where we didnt see Jigsaw until close to the end of the film, so I don't trust them or any critics anymore!

 

[S. Grundy]

The Latino Review review was of Hensleigh's first draft. Which had Frank walk in, shoot Cesare in head and walk out, just like in the comic and not some ridiculous table crawling ****.

I am hoping that IMDb review is of a more current script and not an earlier draft.

 

[Cagefighterkip]

with the exception of some cliched dialog, this thing kicked ass

 

[Balthus Dire]

Man, you guys all read it, huh? I refuse to read it. Not only will things change and be cut from the film, but don't you guys want at least some surprises?

 

[S. Grundy]

What surprises? Punisher shows up and kills people, not like there is going to be a big twist with this movie, like Sutter said it's a basic comic book movie. Some characters are introduced, either they're gonna die or you do see **** from them for the rest of the movie.

It's like the CHUD review said:

Perhaps it's the fact that she feels compelled to scream "THIS IS A COMIC BOOOOOK!" whilst swinging from the rafters...her cape flapping in the breeze...but the entire thing feels like it was written by someone whose only understanding of the world of comic books comes from watching the Adam West Batman - or, worse still - the Tim Burton Batman.

I do hope stuff was changed, I really do. But this script is pretty bad, it should have been worked on more. Otherwise this movie may end up being the Saw equivalent of an action film.

 

[Cagefighterkip]

Man, you guys all read it, huh? I refuse to read it. Not only will things change and be cut from the film, but don't you guys want at least some surprises?

not really, as positive as i am --- inside im pretty pessimistic, until i saw the LATEST dark knight trailer i was thinking this may not be that great, or as good as BB... so yeah

 

[Kable24]

"Castle pounds an enemy's nose into his skull, breaks a woman's neck, blows a thug in half, lots of brains fly out from headshots."


deleted for theaters...(if it makes it to theaters)
and put in for an unrated DVD.

 

[citizenpain]

wow, you guys read the script, so you know everything...

i think me and balthusdire may be the only 2 people on this planet who haven't read the script yet. what suprises? the WHOLE F'N MOVIE! you don't need a twist to be suprised and it totally devalues the film as a whole to have it completely spoiled like that...

 

[Kable24]

wow, you guys read the script, so you know everything...

i think me and balthusdire may be the only 2 people on this planet who haven't read the script yet. what suprises? the WHOLE F'N MOVIE! you don't need a twist to be suprised and it totally devalues the film as a whole to have it completely spoiled like that...

I haven't read this script. I read Hensleighs which blew major dog. I'm just not getting my hopes up for this movie. Why get myself all pumped up for it when what they have showed us so far hasn't been anything exciting?

 

[S. Grundy]

wow, you guys read the script, so you know everything...

i think me and balthusdire may be the only 2 people on this planet who haven't read the script yet. what suprises? the WHOLE F'N MOVIE! you don't need a twist to be suprised and it totally devalues the film as a whole to have it completely spoiled like that...

Knowing what happens doesn't devalue anything. Going by the trailers I pretty much know what The Incredible Hulk is going to be about and how it will end, doesn't mean I'm not going to see it.

Reading what the action is going to be like and seeing it on screen are completely different. What I imagine in my head, might look completely different on screen.

 

[Balthus Dire]

Maybe it's just me, but knowing what all the action scenes will consist of would pretty much wreck the excitement and surprise for me; regardless of whether it looks a little different on screen than you imagine it.

 

[S. Grundy]

I guess, it lower my expectations even more reading that Frank is pulling off a Matrix type move. I mean there is some ******ed **** in this script, if they were going for the balls out over the top type movie, I would've given some leeway with it, but they throw in this serious stuff that tries to make Frank a deep character* that seems completely out of place. They should have taken one route or the other, because the mixing of it does not work.

*And he is a deep character, if written properly. How it's written it seems like he's on the verge of tears in some scenes.

 

[Rukus]

Maybe it's just me, but knowing what all the action scenes will consist of would pretty much wreck the excitement and surprise for me; regardless of whether it looks a little different on screen than you imagine it.

Yeah I agree I haven't read the script either. I'm trying not to hype myself up too much for this movie like I did with the 04 movie yet. Hell even the Lundren version I was too excited about and that turn out to be crap.

 

[ObakeTora]

I guess, it lower my expectations even more reading that Frank is pulling off a Matrix type move. I mean there is some ******ed **** in this script, if they were going for the balls out over the top type movie, I would've given some leeway with it, but they throw in this serious stuff that tries to make Frank a deep character* that seems completely out of place. They should have taken one route or the other, because the mixing of it does not work.

*And he is a deep character, if written properly. How it's written it seems like he's on the verge of tears in some scenes.

verge of tears this was actually written in the script. I was mad as Hell. This is somebody else not Punisher. Well heres hoping they include Vietrnam in the next reboot, or praying the rights revert back to Marvel!

 

[Brendan]

You guys have me on the verge of tears. What the **** happened to this movie?

 

[S. Grundy]

Who knows, the script I have is dated 6-27-07 and filming started around October. That's four months, hopefully stuff was changed for the better. The IMDb one could be of an earlier draft, so.....

And hell ObakeTora, someone who has a complete hate ***** for the '04 movie and was saying how much this movie was going to kick ass, thinks the script isn't up to snuff. That should tell you something.

 

[Balthus Dire]

No offense guys, but unless you were on the crew you really have no idea what made it into the move and what didn't, or any changes that may have been made to the script.

 

[Brendan]

Right now we are seriously in need of something to spark out interests again.

Is the ending at least climactic?