AResistor
Sidekick
- Joined
- Oct 12, 2018
- Messages
- 1,217
- Reaction score
- 622
- Points
- 78
I decided to start this thread upon seeing that ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ thread largely branching off into discussing LGBTQ films overall.
LGBTQ films began as “closeted” films with LGBTQ protagonists and characters that hid this from the audience. The earliest example, that I know of, being ‘Rebel Without A Cause’ in 1955 where Jim was, likely, bisexual and Plato is gay.
Many films with LGBTQ protagonists today are independently made, however there were a couple mainstream films in the 90s such as ‘Birdcage’ and ‘In & Out.’
‘Love Simon’ was the first mainstream film for years that featured a gay protagonist. At box office it quickly became the top third teen romance film (that’s not Twilight) at the domestic box office. After the film’s success, Becky’s next teen gay romance book ‘What If It’s Us’ was picked up by Anonymous Content and Paramount acquired ‘Gay Kid and Fat Chick’ which can be likened to ‘Kick Ass.’ Hopefully, this will begin a wave of many more LGBTQ movies to come.
While there’s been debate over “straight actors” playing lgbtq roles, this isn’t necessarily the case. Hollywood, although people mistakenly view it as being very liberal, is still deeply closeted which makes it a risk when an actor comes out. For example, from working at Warners I overheard a casting department state Matt Bomer was the leading choice for Superman but the studio wanted someone else because he’s gay. In other cases, many actors only get the courage to come out after they’ve been in a lgbtq film such as Keiynan Lonsdale and Lucas Hedges this year. There’s no way in telling which roles are an aren’t being portrayed by lgbtq actors due to the still closeted nature of the Hollywood system.
For writers, it’s even difficult to truly write the stories you want to. Many lgbtq screenwriters, such as myself, straightwash our stories to ensure that they can sell; this has less to do with choice and more to do with a forced choice due to how difficult it is to get these films made. With studios taking more chances, writers are becoming more hopeful they can tell the kinds of stories they want to tell. Due to a growing diverse marketplace I feel safe in primarily focusing on telling films with bi characters, which is what I know best.
Sometimes LGBTQ content is edited out of movies in order to make the character straight, such as ’54.’
Most LGBTQ movies are known to be depressing and to have sad endings. Contrary to boy meets girl films, most boy meets boy films end with the couple breaking up or one to both of them dying, primarily due to AIDS (although it can sometimes be due to a hate crime or suicide). This is what makes LGBTQ films with happy endings stand out.
Similar to films with heterosexual protagonists, there’s all kinds of films with LGBTQ protagonists. There’s romance, drama, political, comedy, and even spy thrillers. Hopefully in the future there will be horror, action, science-fiction, and adventure movies as well. This year marked the FIRST time an action film with an LGBTQ protagonist was made, albeit animated – DC’s ‘Ray.’
Another issue, which has mainly been in the states, is tokenism. In the past, LGBTQ characters were just presented as a GBF or flamboyant with little variance. It gives off the false impression that all LGBTQ people are inherently the same and these stereotypes sometimes complicate the coming-out process (Ryan Phillipe’s coming-out scene in ‘One Life To Live’ captured this perfectly). This primarily started to change in the states about ten years ago when LGBTQ characters were allowed to be more diverse whether this is flamboyant or masculine such as Deran Cody in the series ‘Animal Kingdom’ (‘Animal Kingdom’ marks, to my knowledge, the first time a show primarily geared towards all men had a gay main character – ‘Animal Kingdom’ premiered in 2016).
LGBTQ films began as “closeted” films with LGBTQ protagonists and characters that hid this from the audience. The earliest example, that I know of, being ‘Rebel Without A Cause’ in 1955 where Jim was, likely, bisexual and Plato is gay.
Many films with LGBTQ protagonists today are independently made, however there were a couple mainstream films in the 90s such as ‘Birdcage’ and ‘In & Out.’
‘Love Simon’ was the first mainstream film for years that featured a gay protagonist. At box office it quickly became the top third teen romance film (that’s not Twilight) at the domestic box office. After the film’s success, Becky’s next teen gay romance book ‘What If It’s Us’ was picked up by Anonymous Content and Paramount acquired ‘Gay Kid and Fat Chick’ which can be likened to ‘Kick Ass.’ Hopefully, this will begin a wave of many more LGBTQ movies to come.
While there’s been debate over “straight actors” playing lgbtq roles, this isn’t necessarily the case. Hollywood, although people mistakenly view it as being very liberal, is still deeply closeted which makes it a risk when an actor comes out. For example, from working at Warners I overheard a casting department state Matt Bomer was the leading choice for Superman but the studio wanted someone else because he’s gay. In other cases, many actors only get the courage to come out after they’ve been in a lgbtq film such as Keiynan Lonsdale and Lucas Hedges this year. There’s no way in telling which roles are an aren’t being portrayed by lgbtq actors due to the still closeted nature of the Hollywood system.
For writers, it’s even difficult to truly write the stories you want to. Many lgbtq screenwriters, such as myself, straightwash our stories to ensure that they can sell; this has less to do with choice and more to do with a forced choice due to how difficult it is to get these films made. With studios taking more chances, writers are becoming more hopeful they can tell the kinds of stories they want to tell. Due to a growing diverse marketplace I feel safe in primarily focusing on telling films with bi characters, which is what I know best.
Sometimes LGBTQ content is edited out of movies in order to make the character straight, such as ’54.’
Most LGBTQ movies are known to be depressing and to have sad endings. Contrary to boy meets girl films, most boy meets boy films end with the couple breaking up or one to both of them dying, primarily due to AIDS (although it can sometimes be due to a hate crime or suicide). This is what makes LGBTQ films with happy endings stand out.
Similar to films with heterosexual protagonists, there’s all kinds of films with LGBTQ protagonists. There’s romance, drama, political, comedy, and even spy thrillers. Hopefully in the future there will be horror, action, science-fiction, and adventure movies as well. This year marked the FIRST time an action film with an LGBTQ protagonist was made, albeit animated – DC’s ‘Ray.’
Another issue, which has mainly been in the states, is tokenism. In the past, LGBTQ characters were just presented as a GBF or flamboyant with little variance. It gives off the false impression that all LGBTQ people are inherently the same and these stereotypes sometimes complicate the coming-out process (Ryan Phillipe’s coming-out scene in ‘One Life To Live’ captured this perfectly). This primarily started to change in the states about ten years ago when LGBTQ characters were allowed to be more diverse whether this is flamboyant or masculine such as Deran Cody in the series ‘Animal Kingdom’ (‘Animal Kingdom’ marks, to my knowledge, the first time a show primarily geared towards all men had a gay main character – ‘Animal Kingdom’ premiered in 2016).
MY STAND OUT MOVIES WITH LGBTQ PROTAGONISTS:
SUPERHERO
‘Ray’ is based on the DC hero and a spin off from the Berlanti-verse.
ROMANTIC
‘A Moment In The Reeds’ is a tender romantic film centering around a young Finn and a Syrian asylum seeker that also delves into cultural differences between Finland and Syria.
‘Call Me By Your Name’ is a poetic film about two bisexual, or gay, men over a summer in Italy.
‘Love Simon’ is the first mainstream teen rom-com produced by a major studio, based off the hit book ‘Simon And The Homosapien Agenda.’ Akin to John Hughes movies of the 80s.
‘God’s Own Country’ described as the British ‘Brokeback Mountain,’ the film details two young men falling in love while tending to a farm.
‘Just A Question Of Love’ is a romantically sweeping French film about a closeted young man finding his place and falling in love.
‘The Sum Of Us’ is one of Russel Crowe’s first movies and is based off a stage-play by the same name.
‘Shelter’ is about an aspiring artist falling for his friend’s older brother as the ride the waves in California.
‘Hidden Away’ depicts a young Spanish teen falling for an undocumented immigrant and the political struggles that the both face; very poignant with today’s xenophobic world.
‘Boys’ is a coming-of-age story from the Netherlands about a teenage relay racer finding his identity and falling in love.
‘Beautiful Thing’ is based on a stage-play by the same name and can be likened to a John Hughes film.
DRAMA
‘Boy Erased’ depicts the horrors of gay conversion “therapy.”
‘Kill Your Darlings’ revolves around the life and times of a young Allen Ginsberg.
‘Closet Monster’ shows the horrors that come from internalized homophobia.
‘Beach Rats’ is about a young sex worker struggling to find his place in a homophobic world.
‘Prayers For Bobby’ is the true story about Bobby Griffith and the journey of his mother, Mary, in going from not accepting her son to an advocate for LGBTQ rights.
‘Moonlight’ depicts the struggles of being black, working-class, and gay.
‘1985’ is a quiet film about a closeted young man returning home for the holidays with the knowledge that he’s soon going to die from AIDS.
POLITICAL
‘Milk’ depicts the life and times of Harvey Milk.
‘Pride’ revolves around LGBTQ activists lending support to striking miners in 1984 Wales.
‘The Normal Heart’ A tragic political thriller about the AIDS epidemic by Larry Kramer.
‘Kinsey’ shows the study of sex as conducted by Alfred Kinsey.
‘Philadelphia’ is a court room AIDS drama with powerful performances from Tom Hanks and Denzel Washington.
COMEDY
‘4th Man Out’ is a Judd Apatow comedy about a group of young men and their friend who just came out of the closet.
‘Get Real’ is a coming-of-age rom com reminiscent of John Hughes films.
‘Ideal Home’ is a hilarious Paul Rudd and Steve Coogan film about gay dads. Akin to ‘Big Daddy.’
‘The Birdcage’ is a classic LGBTQ comedy starring the one, and only, Robin Williams.
THRILLER
‘The Imitation Game’ centers around Alan Turning cracking Nazi codes.
‘Dog Day Afternoon’ is a classic bank heist film starring Al Pacino.
SPORTS
‘Handsome Devil’ depicts a young rugby player and musician meeting, becoming friends, and having to contend with homophobia in the world of sports.
MUSICAL
‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ is the first mainstream musical biopic to feature an LGBTQ artist.
LESBIAN/BISEXUAL
‘Rafiki’ is a film about the struggles the LGBTQ community faces in Kenya where the film is currently banned.
‘The Miseducation Of Cameron Post’ revolves around gay conversion “therapy,” but from a lighter angle. Akin to a John Hughes film.
'Battle Of The Sexes' presents the true story of Billie Jean King.
TRANS
‘The Danish Girl’ revolves around the true story of Lili Ebe.
‘Three Generations’ a mother and grandmother contend with their ftm teenager who’s on the path towards transitioning.
‘Just Charlie’ is an eye-opening drama about a young mtf teenager who’s contending with a transphobic family and school (this is my favorite out of all the trans movies I've seen).
Last edited: