Sequels Lists Of Do's and Don't's

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Do's:

- More Bruce Campbell appearances.
- Stan Lee cameo (as with most Marvel films).
- Have Spider-man make jokes about the villains
- Introduce Black Cat

Don'ts:

- Have the villain(s) discover Spider-man's identity.
- Peter knowing the villians on a personal level. (The Lizard being the only exception.)
- More sympatheic villains(Lizard again being an exception.)
- Mary Jane being held hostage or victimized yet again.
- More goblins.
- Peter taking off his mask in the middle of a fight.
- No more villains turning nice at the end(Again Lizard is an exception.)
- No more cheese moments like in 3. I personally don't mind them but they're uneccesary.
- No Carnage


Irrelevant:

- The amount of blood.
- Peter's hairstyle. (Except when it was the emo-hair, that's a don't.)
- Swinging in front of the American flag.
 
Do's:

- More Bruce Campbell appearances.
- Stan Lee cameo (as with most Marvel films).
- Have Spider-man make jokes about the villains
- Introduce Black Cat

Don'ts:

- Have the villain(s) discover Spider-man's identity.
- Peter knowing the villians on a personal level. (The Lizard being the only exception.)
- More sympatheic villains(Lizard again being an exception.)
- Mary Jane being held hostage or victimized yet again.
- More goblins.
- Peter taking off his mask in the middle of a fight.
- No more villains turning nice at the end(Again Lizard is an exception.)
- No more cheese moments like in 3. I personally don't mind them but they're uneccesary.
- No Carnage


Irrelevant:

- The amount of blood.
- Peter's hairstyle. (Except when it was the emo-hair, that's a don't.)
- Swinging in front of the American flag.

Mary Jane will always be victimized coz she's the love of peter's life.
 
Do's:

- Excellent plot with good pacing.
- Limit it to 1-2 villains. I'm thinking the Walrus & the Spot.
- Sam Raimi to direct
- Stick with the original cast
- More hair flipping


Don'ts:

- Thrusting of the hips
- Chocolate cake
- Cookies with/without nuts
 
Do's
Sam Raimi directing
No more than 3 villains
The Spider Slayers in film
Black Cat in a film

Dont's

Raimi writing
coming back from the dead. so bye-bye Harry and Doc. Ock
 
DO:

Have an amazing movie like Iron Man
They better show the AMERICAN flag somewhere in the movie
Get a new actress to play Mary Jane Watson(maybe an actual hottie?)
Get a new actor to play Peter Parker
KEEP J.K. SIMMONS
Bring back Willem Dafoe just for the hell of it
Keep Raimi AWAY from directing, production, writing, et cetera

DON'T:
No more whiney villains
No more stupid emo bangs
No more stupid dance routines
 

Do:
-More spidey screen time.

-Each fight lasting at least ten minutes long.

-Character development for each character,especially the villain(s).

-Study the new spidey cartoon,"Spectacular Spider-Man".

-Have Sean "Cheeks"Galloway create the looks for the villains.

-Major wallcrawling action.

-Keep spidey's mask on at all times.

-The web swing at the end of the movie.

-More Bruce Campbell screentime.

-More JJJ screentime.

-More Betty character development screentime.

-Alot more spidey jokes.

-Recast MJ,get someone who is right for the part.

-A longer Stan Lee cameo.

-Show some of the fights get a little close to the pedestrians.

Don't:

-Have spidey take off his mask.

-Have Peter be connected to the villains.

-Have the villain(s) find out his secret identity.

-MJ getting kidnaped by the villain(s).

-Don't make up villains (New Goblin) :cmad:

-Aunt May making long speeches.

-Villains turning good.

-Villains teaming up for dumb reasons.

-Cutaway to another scene right in middle of the fighting action.

-Scenes that hurt the movie(SM3:Butler,Reporter,Kids :cmad:) Use the time instead for character development or more screen time for the fight scenes which are things that would improve the movie.

-Put in too many new characters.

-Have MJ sing.

-Have MJ talk about herself like she is the greatest.

-Have spidey's costume get ripped up.

-Flashbacks.

-Peter crying.

-Dancing.

-Singing.

-Have the villains take a hostage in the final act of the movie,come up with something new.
 
Do's

-more flashbacks of Uncle Ben
-longer fights
-no more than 2 villians
-more spidey moves
-show more blood literally

Don'ts

-no more advice from aunt may
- enough with pete and mj relationship
- no more peter crying
 
Do's:

Remake SpiderMan 3 for the sake of everyone in this thread and benefits of better receptions from overall everyone.

Don't's:

Don't under an circumstances let Raimi direct either the remake or 4th/5th movie

And everything else what the fans have shared, accepted and shunned; great work guys, keep it up. :spidey:
 
Do's:
good story with amazing action.
good and visually great villains.
Spidey joking

Don't:
no damn connections. just 1.
no MJ screaming for help yet again.
 
Do's

-A great story
-Sam Raimi, Tobey, Kirsten, etc, come back.
-emotional moments that make us feel good/sad/bad for Peter
-awesome fight sequances
-1-2 Villians
-Aunt may and Peter scenes
-JJJ, Betty Brant, etc, scenes

and so much more!

Dont's

-Don't change main theme of film (ir probably won't be changed. Few films have had that change anyway.)
-Don't have MJ die

(Most I can think of as of right now)
 
Great Thread:

More Spidey Climbing On Walls And Swinging Around Just For The Fun Of It!
 
I have a lot of Do's and Don't's I had for the second trilogy but I think, continuity wise, the first trilogy killed that chance.

-Killing Norman and Harry before introducing Gwen Stacey makes her relatively pointless, no Goblin can kill her- thus making the Goblin the "True" greatest enemy.
-Killing Doctor Octopus (yes he's for sure dead, you can't be resurrected from swimming with the sun...) eliminates him from killing Captain Stacey and from creating the Sinister Six.
-Killing Eddie Brock/Venom eliminates him from appearing in the fifth or sixth film (sixth if there is no Sinister Six film and Fifth if there is) as Spidey's most powerful foe.


My planned saga was:

Spider-man 1: Green Goblin

Spider-man 2: Doctor Octopus, introduce the Stacey's, Kill Captain Stacey, Harry growing more and more desperate, discovers who Spider-man is- Ock Lives.

Spider-man 3: Peter fights Sandman. Introduce Eddie Brock. John Jameson comes back from space with the symbiote it attaches to Peter when saving the shuttle (in place of crane sequence), and Harry becomes Goblin midway through. Peter faces off against Sandman and Harry at the construction site- Gwen is in Peril, Harry drops her off the building and Peter's web catches her- but she's dead. Spider-man goes on to fight Sandman and Harry. Harry turns to good at the end and gives his life to save Peter from Sandman.

Spider-man 4: Peter still in the black suit goes against the Lizard and Kraven. Kraven comes to hunt the rumored Lizard and Peter must save Connors before Kraven gets to him. All the while the suit makes Peter come close to killing his friend Connors as well as cause problems with everything else in his life. Brock is continued in this film. The film ends with Spider-man getting rid of the Black suit in a church and Venom is born- cliffhanger to film five.

Spider-man 5- Venom.

Spider-man 6- Ock breaks out of prison and we have the Sinister Six comprised of:
Doc Ock, Sandman, Kraven, Electro, Vulture, and Scorpion.

But- the best laid plans lol. I like what we have- I have some complaints, but- really the only thing is right now we have two many stories that just can't go anywhere (the Stacey's being one of them).

-R
 
I have a lot of Do's and Don't's I had for the second trilogy but I think, continuity wise, the first trilogy killed that chance.

-Killing Norman and Harry before introducing Gwen Stacey makes her relatively pointless, no Goblin can kill her- thus making the Goblin the "True" greatest enemy.
-Killing Doctor Octopus (yes he's for sure dead, you can't be resurrected from swimming with the sun...) eliminates him from killing Captain Stacey and from creating the Sinister Six.
-Killing Eddie Brock/Venom eliminates him from appearing in the fifth or sixth film (sixth if there is no Sinister Six film and Fifth if there is) as Spidey's most powerful foe.


My planned saga was:

Spider-man 1: Green Goblin

Spider-man 2: Doctor Octopus, introduce the Stacey's, Kill Captain Stacey, Harry growing more and more desperate, discovers who Spider-man is- Ock Lives.

Spider-man 3: Peter fights Sandman. Introduce Eddie Brock. John Jameson comes back from space with the symbiote it attaches to Peter when saving the shuttle (in place of crane sequence), and Harry becomes Goblin midway through. Peter faces off against Sandman and Harry at the construction site- Gwen is in Peril, Harry drops her off the building and Peter's web catches her- but she's dead. Spider-man goes on to fight Sandman and Harry. Harry turns to good at the end and gives his life to save Peter from Sandman.

Spider-man 4: Peter still in the black suit goes against the Lizard and Kraven. Kraven comes to hunt the rumored Lizard and Peter must save Connors before Kraven gets to him. All the while the suit makes Peter come close to killing his friend Connors as well as cause problems with everything else in his life. Brock is continued in this film. The film ends with Spider-man getting rid of the Black suit in a church and Venom is born- cliffhanger to film five.

Spider-man 5- Venom.

Spider-man 6- Ock breaks out of prison and we have the Sinister Six comprised of:
Doc Ock, Sandman, Kraven, Electro, Vulture, and Scorpion.

But- the best laid plans lol. I like what we have- I have some complaints, but- really the only thing is right now we have two many stories that just can't go anywhere (the Stacey's being one of them).

-R

Yes, yes...we like this.
 
Do you happen to visit the Spider-man 4 IMDb page? There's a very similar thread on there. Exact same title.
 
Do

Actor who actually has muscle, Toby had no muscle in spiderman 2 and 3. Hell whenever spiderman took off him mask, i though spiderman shrunk a size.


Dont
do that haircut toby was sporting in 2 and 3. Its time to shorten the length to something less long. I would actually prefer brocks hairstyle in the film.
 
Do

Actor who actually has muscle, Toby had no muscle in spiderman 2 and 3. Hell whenever spiderman took off him mask, i though spiderman shrunk a size.

LOL

DO:

Keep the torn costumes. If Raimi doesn't think that even in the movieverse it's plausible for Peter to create a substance stronger than superglue, why should he create an impermeable fabric? I think it's enough that we have to believe Peter made the costume in the first place.

Include at least one irredeemable villian. One thing I liked about Venom was he was totally consumed by his own hatred and he was AWARE that he was using it for selfish and destructive ends. He wasn't out of control, he relished in losing it. I was surprised in 3 that there weren't scenes of Sandman having a conflicted conversation with grains of sand.

Write Spidey with a sense of humor. The trilogy had light comedy no doubt. But in the comics it's not just situational humor or cute/silly things happening to Peter. Spider-man actually IS funny. Let's not ignore that. Wisecracks would add levity to a tense action scene rather than stopping the entire movie for ten minutes while Peter decides he's going to be a nerdy hipster or for a montage set to "Raindrops keep falling on my head".

DON'T:

Revive ANYONE.

Have Peter conflicted about his choice to become Spider-man. If the next film falls in the same continuity as the trilogy, they'll likely be tackling Peter and MJ's engagement. There shouldn't be anymore questioning as to whether he has to choose between Spidey and MJ. It should be more about reaching a compromise...that is if there's a conflict at all.

Include Gwen Stacy ONLY to add tension to Peter and MJ's relationship.

Bring back Sandman. Unlikely since he was the most expensive part of 3. But still...don't.

Write in more than one villian unless there's PLENTY of room. "New Goblin" (still hate that name) worked only because Harry had been around for two movies. Sandman worked because his story was simple albeit more compact than the last two villians. Venom...didn't really work that well. See the biggest problem with Venom is he's two characters. So you have two extra characters to introduce. You have to explain what the symbiote is but not necessarily where it came from or why it's around (which they did but it wasn't necessary) and then you have to (IMPORTANT) introduce Eddie Brock and at some point explain his hatred for Peter. I'm not a huge Venom fan, but they needed two movies at least to make him a more significant threat.

Include more shots of onlookers being stupid:
"It's Spider-man!"
"He took that guy's pizzas!"
"Wicked cool!"
And my personal favorite:
*GASP* "It's a web...Go Spidey go!"
That or for ****'s sake get some better extras. Or write better lines. Or save those 3-5 seconds of screentime for something relevant. It's good to have some human reactions to what's going on but does it all have to be so awful?

Make the audience restless just so you can get in more scenes of Peter sulking or dancing. It seems to always be one of the two.
 
Do's​
  • Keep the cast.
  • Keep coming up with great action scenes.
  • Have the suit get torn during fights.
  • Have Black Cat be in one of the movies.
  • Let Marvel take over the spidey movies, even though it wont happen.
Don't
  • Turn the movie into a soap opera.(SM3 started to turn into one, started...)
  • Don't listen to all of the angry people saying they want a reboot, for all we know, SM4 could be better than SM2, with the same cast, director, etc...
  • Have villians turn good at the end.
  • Keep having MJ be the one in trouble,if possible, have someone else.
 
No way. I agree to get rid of it. Too campy. We don't need to be reminded to root for him anymore.
 
Do:

Give Raimi free reign and don't hammer a villain in to the script at the last moment ever again.

Don't:

Listen to whinny fanboys who weren't smart enough to appreciate SM3 or to rise above their own limited expectations.
 

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