Liverpool Captain Steven Gerrard on trial for assault

[Equinox]

CCTV Footage Of Liverpool Captain Steven Gerrard's Pub Brawl Released

This might be old news...But wow I've never heard of it until now

If Gerrard did really beat the man up, his ass deserves to be in jail and not on the football pitch

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Prosecutor Tells Court That Liverpool Star Steven Gerrard 'Lost It’

I just lost a bunch of respect for Gerrard

 

[spidey-dude]

I just lost a bunch of respect for Gerrard

quick to beleive anything you read in the press arnt you? who knows what happened the facts are that some guy and gerrard had a confrontation (he was a manc and probably started saying his kids wernt him or something) gerrards mate wet to pull him away so gerrard wouldnt get in any trouble, (the guy was probably still mouthing off) so gerrards mate elbows him....then the video shows someone (not clear who it is, gerrard in an earlier video form the club was wearing a blue top, this guy appears to be in a white one but the quality and distance is so bad I am unable to tell correctly) run over and hit the guy a couple of times (could have been one of gerrards other mates who saw the elbow and thought his mate was in trouble) the elbower and another of gerrards mates got done with gbh while gerrard and the rest of his mates were cleared of gbh (suggesting that it was these two who hit the guy)

again who knows what happened but thats certainly what it looks like to me

 

[Ace of Knaves]

CCTV Footage Of Liverpool Captain Steven Gerrard's Pub Brawl Released

This might be old news...But wow I've never heard of it until now

If Gerrard did really beat the man up, his ass deserves to be in jail and not on the football pitch

More -

Prosecutor Tells Court That Liverpool Star Steven Gerrard 'Lost It’

I just lost a bunch of respect for Gerrard

I disagree.

He punched him three times APPARENTLY. (The CCTV footage shows nothing)

But the fact is if this was just some normal fight not involving a celebrity, the bloke wouldn't even report it. He ONLY reported it because he saw a chance for a bit of fame and money from the papers. It's pathetic. I HATE people like that. He took a few slaps, so what? Be a ****ing man about it. It's not as though he got stabbed up or something is it?

Anyway...Hunter what do you think of Owen now? He's done alright so far.

 

[B]

quick to beleive anything you read in the press arnt you?
who knows what happened the facts are that some guy and gerrard had a confrontation (he was a manc and probably started saying his kids wernt him or something) gerrards mate wet to pull him away so gerrard wouldnt get in any trouble, (the guy was probably still mouthing off) so gerrards mate elbows him....then the video shows someone (not clear who it is, gerrard in an earlier video form the club was wearing a blue top, this guy appears to be in a white one but the quality and distance is so bad I am unable to tell correctly) run over and hit the guy a couple of times (could have been one of gerrards other mates who saw the elbow and thought his mate was in trouble) the elbower and another of gerrards mates got done with gbh while gerrard and the rest of his mates were cleared of gbh (suggesting that it was these two who hit the guy)

again who knows what happened but thats certainly what it looks like to me

Regardless of whether hes a Man Utd, Everton or Rushden & Diamonds fan he was still assualted by 2-3 people including Gerrard & has every right to report it. The story that is most frequent is that Gerrard wanted control of the CD player/Decks & the man refused, Gerrard & him then ended up having a heated argument in which one of Gerrards mates through the first punch.

The CCTV footage is clear & proves Gerrard to be a liar based on what I've seen, his excuse throughout has been that it was self defense. Yes it looked like self defense after your friend elbowed him then you uppercutted him a few times..

Usually I wouldn't be so quick to defend whats being said in the papers, but based on the story that is most frequent & the CCTV footage, Gerrard assualted the man.

I disagree.

He punched him three times APPARENTLY. (The CCTV footage shows nothing)

But the fact is if this was just some normal fight not involving a celebrity, the bloke wouldn't even report it. He ONLY reported it because he saw a chance for a bit of fame and money from the papers. It's pathetic. I HATE people like that. He took a few slaps, so what? Be a ****ing man about it. It's not as though he got stabbed up or something is it?

No chance, people report such attacks all the time its got nothing to do with Gerrard being a celebrity. At the end of the day Gerrards excuse for attacking the DJ was it was self defense, the CCTV footage shows it clearly wasn't self defense in any shape or form, the man took an elbow to the face & a handful of uppercuts before he even had a chance to react.

I am honestly can't stand celebrities getting away with such **** that regular Joe wouldn't. Paris Hilton walks in & out of jail like its a f**kin hotel, Chris Brown gets away with beating Rihanna to the point where she was unrecognisable. Thankfully the punishment system isn't as much of a joke in the UK compared to the US & Gerrard should be shown no mercy because hes famous, if he gets away with this free of charge it sends out the wrong message to the public that they can get away with attacking people on a Saturday night..

 

[Equinox]

Nice to see everyone have a different opinion on Gerrard..First, he said that he was acting in self defense, and from the video it clearly looks like the DJ didn't provoke him with a fist fight...Maybe they were bad mouthing each other, but a grown up man and a high profile celebrity like Gerrard should know better not to get his emotions running over a bunch of abuses...

And in the video, I agree that it is pretty unclear if it was Gerrard or someone else who hit up the DJ pretty bad...But still its no excuse for the Liverpool fans here to say that they could pardon Gerrard, coz the DJ didn't get stabbed after all, and he should be man enough to take some punches .. I mean c'mon seriously?

And if I was getting beaten up in a club by a nobody/commoner, i would still call the police...If I was getting beaten up in a club by Prince Charles himself, I would still call the police...Its again not an excuse to say that the DJ only called the police coz he was attacked by a celebrity..

Seriously, I would like to see the Liverpool fans here supporting someone like Rooney had he gotten himself in a brawl like that? Anyways, since the video is pretty unclear on whether Gerrard actually did hit the man himself, I would reserve my judgement until the court decides....

But if he is guilty, he should definitely serve some kind of jail time..I agree that the law is a joke/gets lenient when it comes to celebrities, but Paris Hilton really did spend a few months in jail, and Chris Brown has his hearings for jail time coming up shortly...

Again, I don't have a vendetta against Gerrard or something like that..I like him a lot as a player.But if he is found guilty of beating up the man, he should get his time in jail, just like how any other common man would...

 

[chamber-music]

But if he is guilty, he should definitely serve some kind of jail time..I agree that the law is a joke/gets lenient when it comes to celebrities, but Paris Hilton really did spend a few months in jail, and Chris Brown has his hearings for jail time coming up shortly...

But Paris and Brown are American and UK prisons are full as it is. Plus if he went to jail it would be for like two weeks in those mickey mouse soft prisons like most celebs in the UK and US go to where they don't serve the full sentance.

After all the legal fees, the stick the guys gonna probabley get now his name and pictures in every paper from Liverpool or hardcore england fans it seems like alot of effort for very little justice.

I thought most managers banned their players from going out drinking in nightclubs anyway after all those tabloid scandles abut drunk players fighting or them getting accused of rape.

Harry Redknapp banned his tottenham players from them.

Anthony Stokes of sunderland, Derek Riordan of Celtic got banned from bars in their cities for causing trouble.

I think its better if your a player to not go to them as they just attract too much trouble.

 

[B]

But if he is guilty, he should definitely serve some kind of jail time..I agree that the law is a joke/gets lenient when it comes to celebrities, but Paris Hilton really did spend a few months in jail, and Chris Brown has his hearings for jail time coming up shortly...

Yea she eventually served 30 days or something like that but she was in & out of jail within a day if I remember correctly using some medical reason as some way of getting out of the sentence to home arrest or some nonsense like that. She should never have been released in the first place.

Chris Brown on the other hand, I was under the presumption he got away with community service & a 5 year probation period

Again, I don't have a vendetta against Gerrard or something like that..I like him a lot as a player.But if he is found guilty of beating up the man, he should get his time in jail, just like how any other common man would...

Without question I feel exactly the same

 

[Equinox]

Yea she eventually served 30 days or something like that but she was in & out of jail within a day if I remember correctly using some medical reason as some way of getting out of the sentence to home arrest or some nonsense like that. She should never have been released in the first place.

Chris Brown on the other hand, I was under the presumption he got away with community service & a 5 year probation period
Without question I feel exactly the same

Yeah I agree that the whiny ***** Paris should never had gotten released before serving her full time..But I guess if you have the money to buy your way out of things, anything is possible

About Chris Brown - you maybe right, but I read a report somewhere yesterday that he is due in court for hearings on his assault case, after he pleaded guilty or something.. I need to check again, but I don't want to waste my time in celebrity gossip t:

Are you from the UK as well, B? If so, which part?

 

[TheFuture]

Nice to see everyone have a different opinion on Gerrard..First, he said that he was acting in self defense, and from the video it clearly looks like the DJ didn't provoke him with a fist fight...Maybe they were bad mouthing each other, but a grown up man and a high profile celebrity like Gerrard should know better not to get his emotions running over a bunch of abuses...

Yeah you are right, Gerrard should have known better. But as I said, it was a very uncharacteristic display, he has done nothing like this before in 11 years of service.

And in the video, I agree that it is pretty unclear if it was Gerrard or someone else who hit up the DJ pretty bad...But still its no excuse for the Liverpool fans here to say that they could pardon Gerrard, coz the DJ didn't get stabbed after all, and he should be man enough to take some punches .. I mean c'mon seriously?

After seeing the video I really wished he pleaded guilty. Self Defense is such a ridiculous case to argue as he seemingly hit the guy with three uppercuts. I can't see how he can talk his way out of that.

And if I was getting beaten up in a club by a nobody/commoner, i would still call the police...If I was getting beaten up in a club by Prince Charles himself, I would still call the police...Its again not an excuse to say that the DJ only called the police coz he was attacked by a celebrity..

Again, true.

Seriously, I would like to see the Liverpool fans here supporting someone like Rooney had he gotten himself in a brawl like that? Anyways, since the video is pretty unclear on whether Gerrard actually did hit the man himself, I would reserve my judgement until the court decides....

I think you already know the answer to that so I don't see why you are bringing it up. We're only human and I'm sure Man U fans would stick by Rooney just like we are with Gerrard, especially since like Gerrard it would be a very uncharacteristic display from Rooney.

But if he is guilty, he should definitely serve some kind of jail time..I agree that the law is a joke/gets lenient when it comes to celebrities, but Paris Hilton really did spend a few months in jail, and Chris Brown has his hearings for jail time coming up shortly...

Again, I don't have a vendetta against Gerrard or something like that..I like him a lot as a player.But if he is found guilty of beating up the man, he should get his time in jail, just like how any other common man would..

I hope he doesn't serve time if convicted, that's all I have to say on that.

 

[spidey-dude]

Regardless of whether hes a Man Utd, Everton or Rushden & Diamonds fan he was still assualted by 2-3 people including Gerrard & has every right to report it. The story that is most frequent is that Gerrard wanted control of the CD player/Decks & the man refused, Gerrard & him then ended up having a heated argument in which one of Gerrards mates through the first punch.

The CCTV footage is clear & proves Gerrard to be a liar based on what I've seen, his excuse throughout has been that it was self defense. Yes it looked like self defense after your friend elbowed him then you uppercutted him a few times..

Ive been at work all day so sorry for a late reply but gerrard has said that he didnt see his mate throw the 1st punch (elbow) but turned around and saw the guy coming at him (which the guy dosnt deny as he accused gerrard of being the one who elbowed him) gerrard said he punched him 2 or 3 times as the guy was coming at him - nothing there that is shown to be untrue by the cctv footage

also equinox Im pretty sure they dont give out jail time for affray which is what he is being charged with

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

the fact that gerrard is the only one out of his group to plead not guilty, that and the night it happened the police held him overnight and then scooped him again soon after he was released says to me there is something to this.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

No chance, people report such attacks all the time its got nothing to do with Gerrard being a celebrity. At the end of the day Gerrards excuse for attacking the DJ was it was self defense, the CCTV footage shows it clearly wasn't self defense in any shape or form, the man took an elbow to the face & a handful of uppercuts before he even had a chance to react.

I am honestly can't stand celebrities getting away with such **** that regular Joe wouldn't. Paris Hilton walks in & out of jail like its a f**kin hotel, Chris Brown gets away with beating Rihanna to the point where she was unrecognisable. Thankfully the punishment system isn't as much of a joke in the UK compared to the US & Gerrard should be shown no mercy because hes famous, if he gets away with this free of charge it sends out the wrong message to the public that they can get away with attacking people on a Saturday night..

I'm sorry man but the guy took a few slaps. I see that **** every single weekend. Most people don't go to the police after being punched a few times.

He saw an opportunity for some money, and took it. I bet you if that was just a standard punch up not involving a celebrity then it wouldn't of been reported. Well it might of been initially reported, but it wouldn't of gone to court.

And anyway, Gerrard won't get convicted. Not because he is a celebrity, but because there is insufficient evidence. You cannot see Gerrard punch him on the CCTV.

I don't even like Steven Gerrard really. I think he is a bit of an arrogant prick to be honest. But I don't like money grabbing, fame hungry no bodies either.

The guy took a few slaps...he should deal with it. It's not as though he got bottled or stabbed.

 

[B]

Ive been at work all day so sorry for a late reply but gerrard has said that he didnt see his mate throw the 1st punch (elbow) but turned around and saw the guy coming at him (which the guy dosnt deny as he accused gerrard of being the one who elbowed him) gerrard said he punched him 2 or 3 times as the guy was coming at him - nothing there that is shown to be untrue by the cctv footage

also equinox Im pretty sure they dont give out jail time for affray which is what he is being charged with

Watch the footage again, Gerrard is on the right & is standing facing the man when his friend throws the elbow & follows it up with a few punches. The man doesn't even time to react let alone "go for" Gerrard. If he sticks with that it was self defense as his excuse its a shambles, theres no way anyone can look at such footage & deem that Gerrard hit the man 2 or 3 times without reply in self defense then apparently had to be held back by his friends.. no way.

As far as I'm aware you can be jailed for affray, however you can get away with hefty fines & community service depending on the circumstances.
In this case I think jail time is on the cards although its not certain because it was basically an attack.

I'm sorry man but the guy took a few slaps. I see that **** every single weekend. Most people don't go to the police after being punched a few times.

He saw an opportunity for some money, and took it. I bet you if that was just a standard punch up not involving a celebrity then it wouldn't of been reported. Well it might of been initially reported, but it wouldn't of gone to court.

A few slaps, get real there was a group of grown men attacked him to the point where he had to goto the hospital for facial wounds. You might have seen people in a scrap about the street with each other that don't report it, but when you are beat down your hardly gonna stumble home & not mention a thing.

I don't think the man went to the Police he was taken to the hospital & the police where notified. Alledgedly the man says he didn't even know of the group that attacked him who was hitting him. He only identified Gerrard as being there.

And anyway, Gerrard won't get convicted. Not because he is a celebrity, but because there is insufficient evidence. You cannot see Gerrard punch him on the CCTV.

I don't even like Steven Gerrard really. I think he is a bit of an arrogant prick to be honest. But I don't like money grabbing, fame hungry no bodies either.

Watch the video report again, the reporter says one of Gerrard's friends elbows the man followed by punches from the Liverpool midfielder. They know he hit that man & based on the visual evidence its not self defense, Gerrards head doesn't turn away from the man, after his friend elbows him Gerrard then joins in.
Theres plenty of evidence & if he doesn't get the same conviction an ordinary person would its a joke.

The guy took a few slaps...he should deal with it. It's not as though he got bottled or stabbed.

He was attacked by a group of men, its assault/affray whether you like that the police are involved or not, end of story.

 

[Equinox]

Yayyy...We get our own thread!

Thanks HR t:

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Watch the footage again, Gerrard is on the right & is standing facing the man when his friend throws the elbow & follows it up with a few punches. The man doesn't even time to react let alone "go for" Gerrard. If he sticks with that it was self defense as his excuse its a shambles, theres no way anyone can look at such footage & deem that Gerrard hit the man 2 or 3 times without reply in self defense then apparently had to be held back by his friends.. no way.

As far as I'm aware you can be jailed for affray, however you can get away with hefty fines & community service depending on the circumstances.
In this case I think jail time is on the cards although its not certain because it was basically an attack.



A few slaps, get real there was a group of grown men attacked him to the point where he had to goto the hospital for facial wounds. You might have seen people in a scrap about the street with each other that don't report it, but when you are beat down your hardly gonna stumble home & not mention a thing.

I don't think the man went to the Police he was taken to the hospital & the police where notified. Alledgedly the man says he didn't even know of the group that attacked him who was hitting him. He only identified Gerrard as being there.



Watch the video report again, the reporter says one of Gerrard's friends elbows the man followed by punches from the Liverpool midfielder. They know he hit that man & based on the visual evidence its not self defense, Gerrards head doesn't turn away from the man, after his friend elbows him Gerrard then joins in.
Theres plenty of evidence & if he doesn't get the same conviction an ordinary person would its a joke.



He was attacked by a group of men, its assault/affray whether you like that the police are involved or not, end of story.

Well the blokes a ***** then.

Look you obviously have a bias seeing as you are a United fan.

I'm telling you, Gerrard won't get convicted. I know all about the court system. You cannot seen Gerrard land a single punch in the video. You see his pal, John Doran is it? Elbow the guy. But you cannot physically see Gerrard land or throw any punches.

 

[B]

Well the blokes a ***** then.

Get real, Getting attacked by 3 or 4 men & the guy is a wimp

Look you obviously have a bias seeing as you are a United fan.

Its got nothing to do with me being a United fan, its the principle of the entier thing. You can't be allowed to get away with attacking someone in a bar without any punishment.. especally after lying as well, I'd love to question Gerrard I'd play the CCTV footage & simply ask him to point out at what point was he using self defense..

I'm telling you, Gerrard won't get convicted. I know all about the court system. You cannot seen Gerrard land a single punch in the video. You see his pal, John Doran is it? Elbow the guy. But you cannot physically see Gerrard land or throw any punches.

Gerrard is the man uppercutting the guy after the first thug elbowed the man.

The court knows Gerrard hit him & hes admitted hes hit him, they only need to establish whether it was self defense or not.. which based on the footage its clearly not

 

[TheFuture]

Not guilty! The system works! t:

 

[chamber-music]

I would laugh if Gerrard came out for his statement and started rapping
Jay-Z's H To The Izzo

 

[TheFuture]

Gerrard welled up with tears as a statement from Liverpool legend Kenny Dalglish was read out. Dalglish described Gerrard as "not the archetypal footballer. He does not like to move in movie star circles."

He described him as "quiet" and "very private". Despite his wealth, Dalglish said, Gerrard had "never forgotten his roots".

"He is a very respectful man who has always behaved to senior players in a respectful way," Dalglish said. "He is a very humble man."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jul/24/steven-gerrard-verdict-affray

Fair play to Kenny, he put across what he wanted to say very well and I'm sure this played a big part in the jury finding Gerrard not guilty.

I'd say this whole incident has scared the bejayus out of Gerrard, I'm sure he won't do anything like this again.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

not guilty gee i'm shocked, in other new the sky is blue water is wet and dogs go woof

 

[B]

Dispite being a United fan I don't dislike Gerrard on such a personal level that I'd want him punished unfairly for anything, however how the fudge has he got away with nothing..

If I cared enough I would screencap the footage & post it, frame by frame. Gerrard sees his friend throw the elbow, then when the mans head drops he hits him with a handful of uppercuts, there is no way that looks like self defense to me..

 

[Hunter Rider]

The sad thing about this is Gerrard comes out of it looking like a punk. It's clear that he's never been a problem before, he's no villain, villains concoct vaguely credible stories, not ******ed "self defense" claims, before going on to then admit they were drunk and say soppy crap like "I wuz gutted coz he wouldn't play my fav song." Villains do not cry in the dock either.

If Gerrard had simply manned up and admitted he threw three uppercuts at a DJ that gave him some lip, he'd have gotten a chunky fine and community service, which was all the offense was worthy of and he could have walked from court the bigger man minus the stench of corruption.

At any rate lets hope he's learned something from this.

 

[Equinox]

From the Guardian Report:

The footballer had been drinking Budweiser and a sweet liqueur-based shot called a Jammy Donut

Of all the beers in the world, he had to drink the crappiest one...No wonder it got to his senses t:

 

[chamber-music]

I would of thought he was on the Stella if he was laying punches into people

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Hmmmm...Stella *drools*