Logan Logan spoiler thread discussion

[GuestStar2004]

however it doesn't take a genis to conclude fox is likely
going to use cable's appearance in Deadpool sequels and X-force to negate
the future seen In Logan.

if audences respond well to X-23 it will be intresting to see how they would
use her again in future.

Well not necessarily because if they decide to make a X23 movie which it is very possible at this point and they may get mangold back to direct also which if thats the cast then it will likely be a sequel to Logan set a few years after in the same futuristic setting.

At this point they could do the cable time travel thing but they also may not bother with saying it did anything to change events at all.

Can't really say what the idea is for sure though since i doubt they know either at this point.

 

[GuestStar2004]

How would a bullet kill X-24? If he has the healing abilities Logan has it wouldn't matter what material it was made from?

In Wolverine: Origins, he gets shot with a Adamantium bullet and he heals...

Are we sure X-24 dies?

The idea of the bullet in origins was that the adamantium bullet could kill wolverine even with his healing factor.

Although id like to have seen Wolverine take down X-24 rather then be injured and have to be saved by X-23 but still.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Oh, you're absolutely right. They could easily do that. And they probably will. But, with this ending, I'm done with X-Men. This is the ending I wished for. It's like THE DARK KNIGHT RISES ending; definitive in my eyes.

if your fan primily of OT and only liked DOFP from first class trilogy then
Logan would be ideal film to leave franchise on.

There is really the case to be made,even though i am not fan of reboots at all,for Logan to be end of films as we know them and then they reboot
because quite honestly what's the point of films if we know the ending of the
characters.and if people love logan it's a disservice to use time travel to undo it especilly since it would only be done so fox can make more deadpool sequels and X-force trilogy.Plus it bad enough when mangold was making the wolverine for them to already be planning to erase it from timeline.

Sounds like you can view the 6 X-Men films and wolverine trilogy as complete story.

 

[Jumpman]

if your fan primily of OT and only liked DOFP from first class trilogy then
Logan would be ideal film to leave franchise on.

There is really the case to be made,even though i am not fan of reboots at all,for Logan to be end of films as we know them and then they reboot
because quite honestly what's the point of films if we know the ending of the
characters.and if people love logan it's a disservice to use time travel to undo it especilly since it would only be done so fox can make more deadpool sequels and X-force trilogy.Plus it bad enough when mangold was making the wolverine for them to already be planning to erase it from timeline.

Sounds like you can view the 6 X-Men films and wolverine trilogy as complete story.

I agree. I mean, the next X film will be about the Phoenix Saga we all assume but again, since the next film is still set in this new timeline, we know the ending. LOGAN gives it to us. So, yeah, what's the point of more films if they're not full on 100% reboots?

And yes, as much as I hate ORIGINS WOLVERINE, the six X films and the WOLVERINE trilogy are a complete story.

 

[MDS248]

The idea of the bullet in origins was that the adamantium bullet could kill wolverine even with his healing factor.

Although id like to have seen Wolverine take down X-24 rather then be injured and have to be saved by X-23 but still.

In Wolverine: Origins, I'm sure the woman says "Even with that, he'll heal"

Then Stryker says something along the lines of "His wounds may heal, but his memories won't"

So even then, they knew the bullet would not kill him?

 

[Jumpman]

In Wolverine: Origins, I'm sure the woman says "Even with that, he'll heal"

Then Stryker says something along the lines of "His wounds may heal, but his memories won't"

So even then, they knew the bullet would not kill him?

How about we just forget ORIGINS WOLVERINE, yeah?

 

[GuestStar2004]

There would definitely be a question of how the adamantium bullet was even a thing in the new timeline but hey who knows.

As for more movies, well we are getting X-Men,New Mutants,Deadpool/X-FORCE, Gambit maybe and for all we know they could start making movies set after Logan also at this point, this universe is not stopping at Logan even if multiple films are set at different times.

 

[JEM]

I agree. I mean, the next X film will be about the Phoenix Saga we all assume but again, since the next film is still set in this new timeline, we know the ending. LOGAN gives it to us. So, yeah, what's the point of more films if they're not full on 100% reboots?

And yes, as much as I hate ORIGINS WOLVERINE, the six X films and the WOLVERINE trilogy are a complete story.

Because of him

The future will change again

 

[Lando81]

okay, i hope deadpool 2 somehow deletes this movie :/

maybe wait to see it huh?

 

[marvelrobbins]

I agree. I mean, the next X film will be about the Phoenix Saga we all assume but again, since the next film is still set in this new timeline, we know the ending. LOGAN gives it to us. So, yeah, what's the point of more films if they're not full on 100% reboots?

And yes, as much as I hate ORIGINS WOLVERINE, the six X films and the WOLVERINE trilogy are a complete story.

as much as i hate to say it sounds like it would actully be best if fox just finished deadpool trilogy and then rebooted series.myself and those who loved films well maybe not last stand and origins can walk away.Fox brings in new creative team,especilly replace Kinberg,and then they can try to make films where they are not handuffed by trying to go without most popular X-Men character.and let's be honest domesticly at least the first class/apocalypse cast isn't as loved as the original trilogy cast was.If logan does better than Apocalypse domesticly it further proves the point.Fox
can say deadpool films exsist in seperate contunity from X-Men and wolverine films.Fox would be better off waiting for new mutants,Gambit,and X-force for new contunity.and i actully like apocalypse too.

 

[Ivan Drago]

Are any other X-Men characters referenced? Jean, Storm? How is the action?

Action has been getting praised as violent and brutal.

 

[GuestStar2004]

If logan does better than Apocalypse domesticly it further proves the point

At this point no it honestly wouldn't because they are completely different beasts.

 

[ss3walkman]

I agree. I mean, the next X film will be about the Phoenix Saga we all assume but again, since the next film is still set in this new timeline, we know the ending. LOGAN gives it to us. So, yeah, what's the point of more films if they're not full on 100% reboots?

And yes, as much as I hate ORIGINS WOLVERINE, the six X films and the WOLVERINE trilogy are a complete story.

I don't know..

It goes back to what Hank/Beast said in DOFP about the ripple effect. But he was wrong. You see it currently on The Flash with Iris death looming. Just because we see a future doesn't mean it's set in stone, especially with the current movies taking place in the past.

Then you got Cable. In the cartoons, Cable went to the past to stop Apocalypse' virus by using Wolverine's DNA. I can easily see for some reason that Cable's time travel will effect the timeline to where the events of Logan never happen, or even the events from Apocalypse or after.

I don't see a clean reboot coming anytime soon.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I doubt fox care, if they decide to make an X23 movie it will probably be set around the same time as Logan so any thought about cable timetraveling probably will be chosen to not do anything.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I don't know..

It goes back to what Hank/Beast said in DOFP about the ripple effect. But he was wrong. You see it currently on The Flash with Iris death looming. Just because we see a future doesn't mean it's set in stone, especially with the current movies taking place in the past.

Then you got Cable. In the cartoons, Cable went to the past to stop Apocalypse' virus by using Wolverine's DNA. I can easily see for some reason that Cable's time travel will effect the timeline to where the events of Logan never happen, or even the events from Apocalypse or after.

I don't see a clean reboot coming anytime soon.

cable's action would only change the future ending of DOFP and logan.

as one who calls X2 best film in series at least untill i see Logan and prefer
OT cast over FC cast and didn't like deadpool and First Class as much as some others I will have to think about sticking with series after thisone we seen end of Logan and xavier what is the point.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I doubt fox care, if they decide to make an X23 movie it will probably be set around the same time as Logan so any thought about cable timetraveling probably will be chosen to not do anything.

future of X-23 is big question mark for now.she is getting good raves.

 

[ss3walkman]

Also, Wolverine can't be killed by an adamantium bullet. It's been said in Origins. But what it would do is cause him to lose his memory. What if X-24 doesn't actually die and he forgets he's actually a clone and believes he's Logan going forward?

 

[GuestStar2004]

Also, Wolverine can't be killed by an adamantium bullet. It's been said in Origins. But what it would do is cause him to lose his memory. What if X-24 doesn't actually die and he forgets he's actually a clone and believes he's Logan going forward?

The idea is likely that X-24 dies

 

[TheVileOne]

How about we just forget ORIGINS WOLVERINE, yeah?

Except this movie uses something from Origins as a major plot element...

 

[kloker]

How Logan is doing against X-24?

 

[TheVileOne]

I wouldn't get worked up over anything that happens here. "Different universe" remember.

Since when have past events in previous movies ever mattered in the sequels really?

 

[ss3walkman]

The idea is likely that X-24 dies

I'm sure it is but we've seen that adamantium bullet shouldn't be able to kill him. Just saying if Logan does really well, they have ways to keep Wolverine around

 

[Pennywise]

How was Caliban?

 

[psyonic]

Any direct references to the X-Men at all? Aside from the comic panels.

 

[Ivan Drago]

So is it true [BLACKOUT]Logan dies?[/BLACKOUT]