Discussion in 'Justice League' started by Thread Manager, Aug 28, 2018.
That trilogy was over though. It was fairly obvious there was going to be a brand new Batman.
I pitched a detective murder mystery with a bunch of sexy stuff sprinkled in between. Some guy called it ''european'', but it was just a bit better than the usual. Eh.
Of course there are a lot of other factors. But the main point is, if WB didn't fumble the properties to begin with, we wouldn't be at this point where Henry even needs to be negotiating for a couple million more for Superman while RDJ is getting $40m from an Avengers film. And I don't want to point all my fingers, but I'm sure all the bad reception and backlash to BvS and JL is at least a small factor into Ben relapsing. But that's just my 2c
Go pitch an all female Trinity idea yea
Honestly, if they can't get their act together with how they use Batman and Superman now then they will never be able to.
By the time Warner Bros is ready to crank out a new Superman and Batman film, they will be so far behind every other hero that whatever larger than life personas that they are supposed to possess within the DC Universe will no longer be there.
We should also get a black Lois Lane.
Gugu as Lois Lane.
Unfortunately I think what has happened with his return to CBMs with his other favourite character, Batman, could be a contributing factor. Especially after he recovered so well from Daredevil (and Gigli) with his directing work. This was a big risk for him and after Nolan's Batman trilogy and the Daredevil show there was reason to believe that his new Batman (which looked awesome in the pre-film photos) could get material at least close to that ballpark at least. Real shame for him how it turned out.
Time can be a great healer (and spoiler). Marvel weren't in this position before 2008 of course until they suddenly hit gold. And WB, Sony and Fox, for whatever we might think of them now, have had things in place at one point where great CBMs have been created under them. So getting in the right people at the top to shake things up could change things totally in a matter of 5 years.
Well to be fair, they HAVE done a good Batman trilogy just before the DCEU. It's just Superman they consistently have a problem with. I think i they actively pursued directors for projects and be as pro-active about the property as they did with Batman, and with WW now, they can get something good off the ground.
As far as them being behind the other heroes, just a few months back, the Flashpoint idea for the Flash was back on the table, after being off it in favor of an origin. That can be their DOFP card to recast both Superman and Batman. Kinda makes sense to recast both of their icons at the same time. I mean if Reeves is indeed still working on Batman, they were gonna recast him anyway. And if they get on being proactive with Superman, we might get the duo back without too much issues on redoing origins and all that jazz.
Or it could also be his marriage falling apart while making these films, Life coincidence. I doubt he relapse over Batman and the DCEU. Damn. No need to brainstorm on that wound, fams. By all accounts, he was a professional while on set.
Perhaps, but even when Marvel was trying to establish a footing after launching Iron Man 1, they never placed a big character on the back burner for a long period as they attempted to see on what else they were throwing at audiences would stick and what would fall apart.
And unlike the case with Sony, their Spider-Man was never a part of a shared universe so if one version had run its course then they could simply start another one.
I just meant that having good people in charge at one point in time doesn't give you long term security and vice versa as we see from the wildly fluctuating fortunes of Sony, Fox and WB with CBMs.
To be fair again lol, Marvel at the time had no big characters to even put in the back burner, as they all belonged to other studios.
Well the gold standard now is to have at least 10 years of long term security
Yes, that would be nice lol.
Catching up to Marvel was their biggest mistake.
Superman: The Musical
Lawd. People having meltdowns in the comments claiming Henry leaving is somehow the fault of critics.
Ride ain't over yet