DrCosmic
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Action movie relationships don't develop over time. They happen real quick. It's not a rom com.
Really? "Takes one to know one?" That's the logic level we're on now?
I understand what you're saying, and that sounds very nice. What I'm saying is that you can't communicate that in a film. All people will see is Steve getting with someone who is just like Peggy. There's no way to show the reason he likes the woman who is just like his ex has nothing to do with his ex. Also, even if you could show it, it's disingenuous. Sharon exists to be like Peggy. Did you think they came up with a new love interest for Cap and the writers, of all the infinite characters they could have created, just happened to make her just like Peggy but younger? Just happened to make the related?
And there's not enough time in an action movie to 'earn' that story. And if you try to stretch it out, everyone knows that the purpose of the new Peggy is to fall in love with Steve. It's obvious. It's contrived. It doesn't work, narratively to make the film better. It's just fanservice.
Why would you need to approach it with care if there's no issue to make?
Exactly.
I don't need to be agreed with in order to be correct. Take the 4th person yourself, if you feel it makes your logic more sound.
I don't need to make up an opinion for you either, because I can directly counter your argument. Sharon's a replacement character, and that has different implications in a film than it does in comics. It's just that simple. I don't have enough of an opinion on the character for my opinion to be relevant to the conversation, imho.
I think that not only should Steve start a relationship with Sharon, but he should also get her to dye her hair brown, wear 1940s clothing and speak in a British accent. When she asks him why, he'll just say that he's not quite up to speed with modern women. If she's into fancy dress she'll oblige.
The only difficulty is when he starts referring to her as Peggy while in bed.
I think you can only read it as *****ey if you are *****ey.
Really? "Takes one to know one?" That's the logic level we're on now?
At face value, she may have been a stand in(I don't think so, but we'll go with it), but that doesn't make the feelings that Steve has developed for her over time shallow. He doesn't fall for Sharon because she's Peggy with blonde hair or that she's related to his past love, he falls in love with Sharon for Sharon.
I understand what you're saying, and that sounds very nice. What I'm saying is that you can't communicate that in a film. All people will see is Steve getting with someone who is just like Peggy. There's no way to show the reason he likes the woman who is just like his ex has nothing to do with his ex. Also, even if you could show it, it's disingenuous. Sharon exists to be like Peggy. Did you think they came up with a new love interest for Cap and the writers, of all the infinite characters they could have created, just happened to make her just like Peggy but younger? Just happened to make the related?
And there's not enough time in an action movie to 'earn' that story. And if you try to stretch it out, everyone knows that the purpose of the new Peggy is to fall in love with Steve. It's obvious. It's contrived. It doesn't work, narratively to make the film better. It's just fanservice.
You do what the writers would do; approach it with care and then go with it. It's what makes him happy, so no point making an issue out of it, especially when there's no issue to make.
Why would you need to approach it with care if there's no issue to make?
Exactly.
Actually, only 3 people on this board have an issue with Steve and Sharon. Trust me, I checked. You can do so as well. There was a 4th one, but he's on the fence about it, but if you really want, you can have that 4th one too.
I don't need to be agreed with in order to be correct. Take the 4th person yourself, if you feel it makes your logic more sound.
I think you just don't like the character of Sharon and are just biased against her existence.
I don't need to make up an opinion for you either, because I can directly counter your argument. Sharon's a replacement character, and that has different implications in a film than it does in comics. It's just that simple. I don't have enough of an opinion on the character for my opinion to be relevant to the conversation, imho.
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