Superman Returns Love the TAS influence on the Plane Crash Scene

[Superfreak]

I just rewatched STAS, LSOK, and it's amazing. Many of the shots used in the cartoon, have almost been directly translated into CG for SR. I know, it was obvious, but after watching both simultaneously (the plane rescue in TAS, and the footage we have of the plane rescue). Some shots are nearly identical. The one of Supes buzzing around the plane, and the ripping off of the wing.

Very cool.

The only thing that I think I'll like better about the TAs version, is that the plane actually crashs to the ground with supes lifting it slightly to bring it to a destructive, but safe belly landing. I'm assuming supes catches the whole plane in SR? Then what does he do with it? Does he fly it away, or does he put it down with a thud in the middle of the field?

 

[dabilee01]

I just rewatched STAS, LSOK, and it's amazing. Many of the shots used in the cartoon, have almost been directly translated into CG for SR. I know, it was obvious, but after watching both simultaneously (the plane rescue in TAS, and the footage we have of the plane rescue). Some shots are nearly identical. The one of Supes buzzing around the plane, and the ripping off of the wing.

Very cool.

The only thing that I think I'll like better about the TAs version, is that the plane actually crashs to the ground with supes lifting it slightly to bring it to a destructive, but safe belly landing. I'm assuming supes catches the whole plane in SR? Then what does he do with it? Does he fly it away, or does he put it down with a thud in the middle of the field?

i immediately thought of this TAS scene when i heard there was gonna be a plane sequence.

One thing about the TAS scene that I really liked was how Superman criticizes himself when he accidently rips off the tail of the plane. "Nice one, Clark." is what i think he says. I wish they woulda had Brandon add some regretful dialogue in the movie. If that were me, I know i'd be hitting myself for messin' up like that.

*sigh* oh well. it's gonna be fantastic without dialogue anyways.

 

[BobJM]

When I heard about the plane crash, I thought of World's Finest, when Superman rescues the plane from hijackers with Lois and a bunch of other reporters inside.

 

[Strange]

It does remind you a little of STAS but seeing it on the big screen and having a real life Superman in action makes it a 100 times better.

 

[Superman79]

i immediately thought of this TAS scene when i heard there was gonna be a plane sequence.

One thing about the TAS scene that I really liked was how Superman criticizes himself when he accidently rips off the tail of the plane. "Nice one, Clark." is what i think he says. I wish they woulda had Brandon add some regretful dialogue in the movie. If that were me, I know i'd be hitting myself for messin' up like that.

*sigh* oh well. it's gonna be fantastic without dialogue anyways.

That certainly would have added a brief moment of levity to an intense scene...not to mention a real "Superman is as human as the rest of us" moment

 

[Strange]

That certainly would have added a brief moment of levity to an intense scene...not to mention a real "Superman is as human as the rest of us" moment

Well the difference here is that he has not really used his power very much in the last 5 years. Lois is in danger and he does not want to mess this up, if he had not been gone and been a little more confident in his powers, I could see him saying something but at this time he just wanted to get the job done.

 

[Mike059jig]

Their was another scene with him In the Justice League as well....The episode called clash when He was rescuing a plane, I seen that and the plane scene in this movie came to mind

 

[Superman79]

Well the difference here is that he has not really used his power very much in the last 5 years. Lois is in danger and he does not want to mess this up, if he had not been gone and been a little more confident in his powers, I could see him saying something but at this time he just wanted to get the job done.

good point...i guess i just always see him talking like that, even in low power (like in Superman #653: "Sorry about the window folks, I misjudged the landing a bit")

 

[Superfreak]

Well the difference here is that he has not really used his power very much in the last 5 years. Lois is in danger and he does not want to mess this up, if he had not been gone and been a little more confident in his powers, I could see him saying something but at this time he just wanted to get the job done.

you do realize that when Supes saved the plane in LSOK, that was his first official outing as Superman, and maybe even the first time he'd ever tried to catch a falling aeroplane right? I'd say the situations are nearly identical.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

In the Spider-man movies, Spider-man doesn't make his typical wise-cracks, so I say they leave them out of Superman. Nobody wants to interrupt action with a corny line.

 

[retconned]

i immediately thought of this TAS scene when i heard there was gonna be a plane sequence.

One thing about the TAS scene that I really liked was how Superman criticizes himself when he accidently rips off the tail of the plane. "Nice one, Clark." is what i think he says. I wish they woulda had Brandon add some regretful dialogue in the movie. If that were me, I know i'd be hitting myself for messin' up like that.

*sigh* oh well. it's gonna be fantastic without dialogue anyways.

I love that scene in TAS as well. But, this isn't the post crisis take on Clark Kent/Superman like TAS was, where Clark Kent was the real man, so it would be out of character for him to say a line like that.

 

[Sub-Zero]

i thought that in returns he rips the wing off because it's about to blow up. like he rips it off on purpose.

 

[Octoberist]

I don't even know if Singer even saw an episode of Superman: The Animated Series...

 

[Pickle-El]

Hunter even makes reeeeaaaaalllllly cool avatars that resemble such scenes.....

 

[Superfreak]

I don't even know if Singer even saw an episode of Superman: The Animated Series...

well, see singer is the director, who is looking for a story.

it would be the CG nerds, and the DOP who would be doing the more visual research. The scene is so similar, that some computer desk jockey at the F/X office had to have viewed the footage. Remember that Singer tells the F/X jockeys what he wants to see, they interpret that, and build a shot that they think will fit.


anyhow, as for the post crisis/ pre crisis debate... it's moot. It really doesn't make a difference anymore, because I feel like the 2 have really been blended for this movie (expecially since there are 3 personae in this movie). And I just hate the arguement of 'who' the real person is in superman. Superman is Clark, Clark is Superman, they are the same person in either persona. I'm still trying to figure out why you guys still debate it. It's almost as bad as arguing over who would win, Starwars or Startrek. It's a trumped up philisophical debate created only to give fanboys something to argue about.

 

[Octoberist]

What? I don't care about this post/pre crisis non-sense. The only reason why I said what I said is because Singer's never ever mentioned the 90s cartoons in interviews.

Don't generalize too much. I'm no fanboy. I've got logic and reason.

 

[siggy_freud]

You should go watch the the first of the two clips dealing with the plane sequence that was posted as part of the 11 clips recently released. When Lois sees Superman fly by the window, the music change reminds me a lot of the STAS intro music. Just another touch that seems to be very similiar.

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

elevator influence?

 

[pyrobisson]

A other thing is that there is no S on the cape in TAS too. Singer did watch the cartoon I guess...

 

[The Caped Knight]

I just rewatched STAS, LSOK, and it's amazing. Many of the shots used in the cartoon, have almost been directly translated into CG for SR. I know, it was obvious, but after watching both simultaneously (the plane rescue in TAS, and the footage we have of the plane rescue). Some shots are nearly identical. The one of Supes buzzing around the plane, and the ripping off of the wing.

Very cool.

The only thing that I think I'll like better about the TAs version, is that the plane actually crashs to the ground with supes lifting it slightly to bring it to a destructive, but safe belly landing. I'm assuming supes catches the whole plane in SR? Then what does he do with it? Does he fly it away, or does he put it down with a thud in the middle of the field?

Yeah I thought of STAS, but I also thought of Man Of Steel # 1 , Where Superman makes his first public appearance in Metropolis when he flies up and saves a experimental space plane with Lois Lane on board {where he first meets her.}

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

There is an episode from the 3rd season of STAS that Singer really REALLY borrowed from!

There is a nuclear explosion on an island. Superman flies off the coast from Metropolis in a shot very similiar to the one in SR that tracks Superman from the front. In TAS, he uses his heat vision to make the ground underneath the island (in the ocean) malleable, so that he can fly through it. I thought he was going to pick the island up, but instead he just makes a bunch of holes for some odd reason, I guess to stop the radiation fallout.

 

[DavidTyler]

Yeah I thought of STAS, but I also thought of Man Of Steel # 1 , Where Superman makes his first public appearance in Metropolis when he flies up and saves a experimental space plane with Lois Lane on board {where he first meets her.}

THANK YOU! I was going to bring that up.

As soon as I saw the shuttle on top of the plane, ALL I could think of was Byrne's first issue of MOS. Though the rescue wasn't as fiery as the movie, it was basically lifted from their.

Not to say that Supes hasn't rescued a plane or two in his history but a plane with a Space Shuttle attached? Only MOS had something like that.

Note: The experimental plane in MOS was referred to as a space plane because the Challenger accident had just happened and DC didn't want to offend anyone ... otherwise it would have been a Space Shuttle.

 

[qstorm]

i immediately thought of this TAS scene when i heard there was gonna be a plane sequence.

One thing about the TAS scene that I really liked was how Superman criticizes himself when he accidently rips off the tail of the plane. "Nice one, Clark." is what i think he says. I wish they woulda had Brandon add some regretful dialogue in the movie. If that were me, I know i'd be hitting myself for messin' up like that.

*sigh* oh well. it's gonna be fantastic without dialogue anyways.

What is this STAS that everyone's talking about? Is it a Superman graphic novel? What does it stand for?

 

[BatFitz]

I thought it was based on the experimental design of that head of Virgin(he had a cameo in the movie as one of the astronauts) for a plane to take commerical flights to the top of the atmosphere...

 

[BatFitz]

What is this STAS that everyone's talking about? Is it a Superman graphic novel? What does it stand for?

Superman: The Animated Series....started in 1996.....basically merged with Batman: The Animated Series and became Justice League