Sequels Magneo's activities BEFORE X1....

[X-Maniac]

Magneto was in a plastic prison at the end of X1. To have such a prison ready to hold him meant Stryker and government justice officials must have known of Magneto and his powers for some time (although the cops at the train station seemed unprepared, s they used normal guns against him).

Did they have time to develop a prison between the train station incident and the Liberty Island incident? I doubt it.

Or were they aware of Magneto and his powers before the events of X1? What might Magneto have been doing before X1? Criminal activity such as stealing the components for his mutagenic radiation machine? Other terrorist activities? Go ahead and speculate. Hopefully the movie will fill in the gaps.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

I think that's nitpick? I always thought they just developed the prison after Liberty Island. The last scenes seem to take place some time (maybe months) after the incident...

 

[Angamb]

Intersting debate certainly. I will see this movie, no doubt.

 

[Gilpesh]

They probably slowly realized what his powers were. Maybe even talked to Xaiver about it. So it was most likely a combination of everything he did before the movie, plus what he did in the movie, and maybe sprinkle a little Xavier tattled on him on top and you have one great Plastic Prison cake.

 

[TKing]

I think that's nitpick?

I'm afraid that's what the X3 bashers have been doing ever since the movie came out.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

I'm afraid that's what the X3 bashers have been doing ever since the movie came out.

Not to start an X3 debate, but while there are certainly huge amounts of nitpicky debates about the movie, such as lenght of bridges, and some plot points etc, the movie does have a lot of mistakles that can't go unnoticed.

 

[Gilpesh]

I'm afraid that's what the X3 bashers have been doing ever since the movie came out.

Cause it was full of them. It wasn't like Star Wars episode 4, "OMG look a shadow on the wall from a blade of light!"


This was huge parts of the movie that caused problems. Like how the entire time apparently Dark Phoenix means... Stare into the distance like someone asked you a tough question Phoenix.

 

[javphonic]

Magneto was in a plastic prison at the end of X1. To have such a prison ready to hold him meant Stryker and government justice officials must have known of Magneto and his powers for some time (although the cops at the train station seemed unprepared, s they used normal guns against him).

Did they have time to develop a prison between the train station incident and the Liberty Island incident? I doubt it.

Or were they aware of Magneto and his powers before the events of X1? What might Magneto have been doing before X1? Criminal activity such as stealing the components for his mutagenic radiation machine? Other terrorist activities? Go ahead and speculate. Hopefully the movie will fill in the gaps.

I think they'll probably establish the film as if the public aren't aware of mutants, but parts of the government are, like Mr. Bennet and the company he works for on Heroes, thus they'd have prior knowledge of what to contain Magneto in and that would explain why the cops didn't know to use metal gusn on Magneto

IDK my 2cents

 

[Dope Nose]

Stryker mentions in X2 that he's been working with mutants for as long as Xavier which means that he was probably aware of Magneto prior to the events of the first film. In fact, Magneto may have been running the school with Xavier when Stryker enrolled his son. That's just speculation on my part though. Stryker also said that it was his group that developed the technology that built Magneto's plastic prison.

 

[X-Maniac]

I think that's nitpick? I always thought they just developed the prison after Liberty Island. The last scenes seem to take place some time (maybe months) after the incident...

I'm not nitpicking at all, just wondering.

How would they hold Magneto between finding him at Liberty Island and developing the plastic prison? No normal prison or normal hospital would hold him. They surely must have already developed and built the prison.

 

[X-Maniac]

Cause it was full of them. It wasn't like Star Wars episode 4, "OMG look a shadow on the wall from a blade of light!"


This was huge parts of the movie that caused problems. Like how the entire time apparently Dark Phoenix means... Stare into the distance like someone asked you a tough question Phoenix.

But those are two different things.

A shadow from a blade of light is a scientific impossibility, a factual error.

A woman standing around looking regal and goddess-like is not a scientific error, it is something that some people such as you did not like. I agree that she could (and perhaps should) have done more...but it was not a 'mistake' or error.

 

[Gilpesh]

But those are two different things.

A shadow from a blade of light is a scientific impossibility, a factual error.

I know. Just saying that is called a nitpick. And the type is factual error.

A woman standing around looking regal and goddess-like is not a scientific error, it is something that some people such as you did not like. I agree that she could (and perhaps should) have done more...but it was not a 'mistake' or error.

Also called a nitpick. But this one was huge, it was an entire character in the whole movie.

So one was a little whoops and one was a HUGE thing of the entire movie.

And this thread was just a little question about Mag's prison.

 

[X-Maniac]

I know. Just saying that is called a nitpick. And the type is factual error.



Also called a nitpick. But this one was huge, it was an entire character in the whole movie.

So one was a little whoops and one was a HUGE thing of the entire movie.

And this thread was just a little question about Mag's prison.

Nitpicks are subjective, they do not exist outside the person making them. Something is not described as a 'nitpick' because not everyone has the same nitpick. Those things are your nitpicks.

And, yes, this is a thread about Magneto's prison. A thread I started. So if you could please stop hijacking it with your nitpicks and go somewhere else, I'd be very grateful. Take your X3 nitpicks elsewhere. This is the Magneto movie thread and your nitpicks do not belong here.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

I'm not nitpicking at all, just wondering.

How would they hold Magneto between finding him at Liberty Island and developing the plastic prison? No normal prison or normal hospital would hold him. They surely must have already developed and built the prison.

Okay. To stay on topic, I think Dope Nose's answer makes sense enough:

Stryker mentions in X2 that he's been working with mutants for as long as Xavier which means that he was probably aware of Magneto prior to the events of the first film. In fact, Magneto may have been running the school with Xavier when Stryker enrolled his son. That's just speculation on my part though. Stryker also said that it was his group that developed the technology that built Magneto's plastic prison.

Maybe Stryker already knew Magneto, or maybe Magneto was already a bit famous for his terrorist acts. He could have been on a Wanted list for a long time before Liberty Island... The police just wasn't able to get him, until that moment...

 

[X-Maniac]

Okay. To stay on topic, I think Dope Nose's answer makes sense enough:



Maybe Stryker already knew Magneto, or maybe Magneto was already a bit famous for his terrorist acts. He could have been on a Wanted list for a long time before Liberty Island... The police just wasn't able to get him, until that moment...

Okay... but i was wondering what Magneto had been doing before X1. What terrorist acts might he have committed that made him a menace? It's interesting to try to fill in the gaps and wonder if the movie will answer the questions. I doubt he was running the school with Xavier as Magneto says 'His son was once a pupil of YOURS' so it sounds like Xavier was running the school on his own at that time.

I think Magneto was at the school at one point. He helped build Cerebro. And maybe the illusion powers of Jason gave them an idea to create a training room with electronic illusions (the Danger Room!). Maybe the accident with Annie occurred while Jean and Annie were both students at the school and that's when Xavier was forced to put in the mental blocks because her powers went haywire. It's interesting to debate these things... and perhaps also hopefully give the writers some ideas!!!

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Okay... but i was wondering what Magneto had been doing before X1. What terrorist acts might he have committed that made him a menace? It's interesting to try to fill in the gaps and wonder if the movie will answer the questions. I doubt he was running the school with Xavier as Magneto says 'His son was once a pupil of YOURS' so it sounds like Xavier was running the school on his own at that time.

I think Magneto was at the school at one point. He helped build Cerebro. And maybe the illusion powers of Jason gave them an idea to create a training room with electronic illusions (the Danger Room!). Maybe the accident with Annie occurred while Jean and Annie were both students at the school and that's when Xavier was forced to put in the mental blocks because her powers went haywire. It's interesting to debate these things... and perhaps also hopefully give the writers some ideas!!!

Let's just hope they read SHH

Well, whatever he's done before, I'd assume it wasn't as big as Liberty Island. I'd guess he had used Mystique a lot though. She's the best weapon you might have in a Congress reunion, or whatever political fact related. Also as a spy. But to be on a Wanted list, he had to make something big, which counteracts my own statement.

His powers are made for big events. Like moving bridges and all.
Mystique is a much more menacing, subtle weapon than any of his other Brotherhood subjects.

 

[Amazing Afroman]

In the forest scene in X2 Magneto mentions that William Stryker is the only man besides himself that can manipulate adimantium. To wolverine: "The metal on your bones, it bares his signature." Clearly he was aware of Stryker one can assume it goes both ways.

 

[Magneto]

Intersting