"Make America Great Again!": The TRUMP Thread!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 21

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[roach]

I'd pay attention to Obama's press conference tomorrow

 

[Kyle]

I'd pay attention to Obama's press conference tomorrow

Hear anything or think anything's going to happen?

 

[Lighthouse]

Here's an early preview.

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[roach]

From what I'm told it should be very interesting

 

[Kelly]

I'd pay attention to Obama's press conference tomorrow

It sounds like it is mostly going to be about the economy.

 

[Marvolo]

I'm confused. What are you advocating for because it seems GOP impeaching Trump creates bad news and the GOP not impeaching Trump creates bad news.... So, what would you like the GOP to do?

Im advocating the GOP not dick around with this and act like these hackers were some sort of gift to them. Im advocating that none of them try to sweep this under the rug and that they not act like its ok that a foreign power hacked us and influenced our country and its election.

 

[Kyle]

Ah. Was unsure since you also said that could unleash the wrath of Putin, Russia, and the hackers. Agree that they're boxed in and cornered. Just unsure personally what the right way to handle everything would be since it's a doomed if you do, doomed if you don't scenario... It is like a walking on glass scenario.

 

[Marvolo]

Ah. Was unsure since you also said that could unleash the wrath of Putin, Russia, and the hackers. Agree that they're boxed in and cornered. Just unsure personally what the right way to handle everything would be since it's a doomed if you do, doomed if you don't scenario... It is like a walking on glass scenario.

Id rather be doomed while trying to fight back and stop Russia's meddling than be doomed while doing nothing or not enough. But Ive come to realize that the modern GOP does not think that way.

 

[Kyle]

My notion, unsure if it's applicable, is basically turning Trump into nothing more than a poster boy while the polticians work at keeping Russia's meddling out while gathering intel on how far Putin's reach goes and implementing ways to weed it out and block him... Not sure if possible though. Which isn't a good scenario at all, but is the middle of the road one.

What's the worst that Putin could/would do? Basically would it be the Cold War 2.0?

 

[Gold Samurai]

What's the worst that Putin could/would do? Basically would it be the Cold War 2.0?

um more harm in Aleppo?

Testing the US on how far they'll go to stop him?

 

[Kyle]

Judging by tone think you might think I'm being sarcastic.... I am actually asking to what lengths Putin may go to. Aleppo is obvious. I'm not from the 80s, but I'm pretty sure that was the time of mass fear of nuclear fall out, the nuclear bomb, fall out shelters and etc. The height of the cold war. So, how much of that, and more could be roaring back. Or is Russia not as strong as it was back then. Basically what those who live through it can see as similarities and differences between back then and what it could mean for today. In my head Cold War 2.0 means nuclear holocaust concerns again, but unsure if that'd still be the case or to what degree.

 

[Fading]

Id rather be doomed while trying to fight back and stop Russia's meddling than be doomed while doing nothing or not enough. But Ive come to realize that the modern GOP does not think that way.

What's the saying, "The first generation that doesn't fight for it's freedoms shall lose them." I remember using that quote more than once back when Bush was pushing the patriot act. Back then however it was a populace afraid of being attacked willingly trading chunks of freedom and privacy for safety. Now? It's cheering a constant thorn in our collective side for hacking an interfering with our "most cheerished icon of freedom, the right to choose our leaders".


The sad thing is all of these people cheering on Russia purely because they are backing their candidate, or party by association are also the ones who claim they're the most patriotic. They will probably also be near first in line if Russia ever tries to start something with us up front, pretending they were always weary of Russia. Gotta love hypocrisy. I just wish they'd make up their minds. One election they're trashing Russia with Mitt Romney, next election they're praising them for messing with our election.

 

[Marvolo]

Trump is now trying to make out like the hacking didnt become a thing until after the election.

How long before the Trumpeteers start believing that?

 

[ThatOneWolfDude]

I know it may be unlikely, but can you imagine Obama declares Russia's role in the hacking an act of war?

 

[KevanG]

He'll declare it about ten minutes before he leaves.

 

[Sawyer]

Trump is now trying to make out like the hacking didnt become a thing until after the election.

How long before the Trumpeteers start believing that?

Trump could tell these people they have secret Muslim operatives within their own families and they'd buy it. Their susceptibility to conspiracy bulls*** is as high as their overall intelligence is low.

 

[Marvolo]

I know it may be unlikely, but can you imagine Obama declares Russia's role in the hacking an act of war?

The GOP would not allow it and as soon as Trump is sworn in he'd declare peace and friendship with Russia and Putin.

Frankly, I do consider it an act of war, but I dont want us going to war with Russia. Not because I think the US would lose, but because I think the whole world would lose. A war between the US and Russia could very literally end civilization and destroy the earth's biosphere for a long time. There is just way too much risk to everyone worldwide for the US to declare war on Russia. I think Russia realizes this and pushes us a littlr here and there knowing we wont take the risk and go to war with them.

 

[samsnee]

It's clearer than ever Trump has major business ties to Russia.

 

[terry78]

I feel like we're back in the 80s right now.

 

[Kyle]

I feel like we're back in the 80s right now.

To me, 1930s. There's the cold war but we're also facing KKK, nazis, totalitarianism, racial tensions, economic uncertainty leading to common man against the establishment, swap out the 2014 Olympics for the 1936 olympics similarities (and two years after each we're close to war against the olympic rival), and etc. Don't get me wrong, we're not as backwards as it was back then - but there are many of the same issues cropping back up.

 

[childeroland]

Trump in Denial as Evidence Grows Spymaster Putin Behind Election Hacks

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With intelligence officials convinced that Russian spook-turned-president Vladimir Putin personally directed cyber-attacks aimed at interfering with the U.S. election, President-elect Donald Trump continues to downplay and dismiss growing hacking concerns as politically motivated.

The hacks saw the systems and accounts of political organizations and figures like the Democratic National Committee breached, and private data – in the most notable cases, emails – spilled out into public view.

“The primary goal of this attack on our election system was to sow chaos and apparently to help the candidate Donald Trump,” Olsen, an ABC News consultant, former director of the National Counterterrorism Center and a supporter of Hillary Clinton, said.

But Trump is having none of it.

“If Russia, or some other entity, was hacking, why did the White House wait so long to act?” Trump tweeted on Thursday. “Why did they only complain after Hillary lost?”

But that’s not the case, and sources say that intelligence operatives are seething that their future boss is so outwardly dismissing their work.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I'm sure there are many people in other countries laughing hysterically at the Russian hacking news. I'm sure they have "how does it feel?" mindset with it.

 

[Ironfan72]

I read an article posted on Facebook by a local news station talking about the hacking by Russia, it was a typical news story, the comments were what concerned me, many saying it did not matter, move on, others saying that we should thank Putin for exposing how corrupt and power hungry the Demarcates are, and others attacked those who were concerned about the hacking, have we gotten to point now where its ok to let a foreign power effect the out come of a major election?