The Amazing Spider-Man Marc Webb to return? - Part 1

[Nathan]

The effects for the lair scene were completed too, that's also money down the drain.

And those scenes were left out, that's simply money gone. Changing costumes, is spending extra money.

 

[LegendAssemble]

The effects for the lair scene were completed too, that's also money down the drain.

Wonder how Irfan Khan feels about having the one scene where he has somewhat of an important role being cut.

But to change the costume requires halting production while the new suits are made. Reshooting all the scenes the old suit was in, being that he's Spider-Man in these scenes they're most likely action scenes and expensive to do in the first place. It's just a much bigger ordeal than eating some money in one scene.

And I've been wondering the same thing.

 

[Marvel Spider]

If the makers listened to whiny fans on the Internet, Spidey's shoes would have been removed... and the rest of his costume would have probably been different too.

See what I'm saying?

Speaking of which, I hope the costume isn't too drastically changed. Minor things like the design of the webs on the boots should be (in my opinion, at least), but it should mostly stay the same.

 

[Troy_Parker]

But to change the costume requires halting production while the new suits are made. Reshooting all the scenes the old suit was in, being that he's Spider-Man in these scenes they're most likely action scenes and expensive to do in the first place. It's just a much bigger ordeal than eating some money in one scene.

And I've been wondering the same thing.

I said maybe on the suit. Shoes are another thing.

What I'm saying is that don't think that *****y fans on the Internet of all places are going to stir up enough **** to cause the studios to change what possibly was such a major part of the story.

 

[LegendAssemble]

I said maybe on the suit. Shoes are another thing.

What I'm saying is that don't think that *****y fans on the Internet of all places are going to stir up enough **** to cause the studios to change what possibly was such a major part of the story.

it's not like they did it for the sake of the story though.

 

[Troy_Parker]

it's not like they did it for the sake of the story though.

What?

Thing is, we don't know. People who never liked the possibility of Peter being altered somehow before he was even bitten like to say that the supposed origin change/lair scene was removed because fans hated it.

I'm having a hard time believing they're going to care about what a fraction of people on the internet are saying and because of that, removed a part of the trilogy's plan/story, so I'm going to say they removed it because it was exploring something that was going to be delved into anyways in a sequel/they felt like they were giving too much of the "Untold Story" away in movie 1.

 

[Spider-Vader]

*Rant by an idiot who thinks every movie has to be serious & there can be no fun in film*

I bet you think Indiana Jones is a s****y film series. "Harrison Ford is playing himself & the characters are used for jokes. EVERY MOVIE MUST BE SERIOUS. THERE CAN BE NO FUN!" Get off your pedestal jackass. Movies CAN just be for fun & can be good movies at the same time.

The MCU harkens back to the fun & good action movies of the '80s like Indiana Jones or Star Wars. There's nothing wrong with that & if you think there is go suck off Christopher Nolan some more.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Webb is back.

No words.

woot

 

[Anno_Domini]

I only hope Webb doesn't try to keep some of his indie (500) Days of Summer motives as he used with the Peter/Gwen scenes.

 

[Smegger56]

I only hope Webb doesn't try to keep some of his indie (500) Days of Summer motives as he used with the Peter/Gwen scenes.

I thought that was one of the best things about the film. How those two where with each other, I thoroughly enjoyed those scenes.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I thought that was one of the best things about the film. How those two where with each other, I thoroughly enjoyed those scenes.

The chemistry between Andrew and Emma were fine, but the dialogue just sounded awkward, no matter how great the chemistry was. It felt just as bad as Tobey and Kirsten all throughout Raimi's trilogy and even with the great chemistry between Kirsten and James Franco in Spider-Man 3, the dialogue was still bad.

 

[Smegger56]

The chemistry between Andrew and Emma were fine, but the dialogue just sounded awkward, no matter how great the chemistry was. It felt just as bad as Tobey and Kirsten all throughout Raimi's trilogy and even with the great chemistry between Kirsten and James Franco in Spider-Man 3, the dialogue was still bad.

I honestly found the dialogue fine. It's no Shakespeare but I was convinced. I will admit to having one or two roll of the eye moments lol, but overall, I was happy. But no doubt the chemistry between the two was massive in those scenes

 

[grieven]

I only hope Webb doesn't try to keep some of his indie (500) Days of Summer motives as he used with the Peter/Gwen scenes.

Couldn't disagree with you more. I loved [500] Days of Summer, and the best parts of TAS for me were the genuine emotional arcs and the chemistry between Peter and Gwen. I should only hope that Webb continues that magic in the sequels.

 

[grieven]

The chemistry between Andrew and Emma were fine, but the dialogue just sounded awkward, no matter how great the chemistry was. It felt just as bad as Tobey and Kirsten all throughout Raimi's trilogy and even with the great chemistry between Kirsten and James Franco in Spider-Man 3, the dialogue was still bad.

If it's the dialogue you're criticizing, that's the screenwriters, not Webb and his Indie sensibility.

 

[DeathChill]

The dialogue seemed like real and awkward teenage conversations. It was very refreshing that we didn't need to see them talk to each other in speeches.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Couldn't disagree with you more. I loved [500] Days of Summer, and the best parts of TAS for me were the genuine emotional arcs and the chemistry between Peter and Gwen. I should only hope that Webb continues that magic in the sequels.

Agree to disagree then. I hope for Webb to change up from the indie sensibility to something that isn't so awkward. Give me one Spidey film that doesn't make the characters feel so awkward in their relationships. It's either corny or too much with an "indie sensibility".

If it's the dialogue you're criticizing, that's the screenwriters, not Webb and his Indie sensibility.

You're kidding yourself if you don't think Webb had his say in and how to react to the dialogue and scenes.

 

[socool]

I only hope Webb doesn't try to keep some of his indie (500) Days of Summer motives as he used with the Peter/Gwen scenes.

I disagree with every ounce of my being.

 

[Resistance61513]

Exactly, the romance in Amazing Spider-Man felt real and genuine.

 

[AF3619]

Exactly, the romance in Amazing Spider-Man felt real and genuine.

 

[chaseter]

Webb is back.

No words.

But I can bet what sounds...

 

[chaseter]

The romance was fine until they 180'd the entire movie's development at the end. Everything else about the movie was mediocre and subpar. The action wasn't that good, the villain was a humongous let down, and the Peter solo stuff was lacking to me. He gets his powers with a skating montage? He showcases his genius in a montage web shooter scene that lasts a couple of minutes?

The stuff between Andrew and Emma was ace. Just give us an actual awesome bad guy, better action, and a more powerful story like the death of Gwen. No Gwen dying over 2 cents more chocolate milk or Peter breaking his promise to a dying man a couple of minutes later. If it can do that...then I will gladly have SM1, SM2, and ASM2 on my shelf.

 

[LegendAssemble]

What?

Thing is, we don't know. People who never liked the possibility of Peter being altered somehow before he was even bitten like to say that the supposed origin change/lair scene was removed because fans hated it.

I'm having a hard time believing they're going to care about what a fraction of people on the internet are saying and because of that, removed a part of the trilogy's plan/story, so I'm going to say they removed it because it was exploring something that was going to be delved into anyways in a sequel/they felt like they were giving too much of the "Untold Story" away in movie 1.

the problem is that movies, unless they're based off a novel or play or something, aren't made that way. Sony has an idea of where they want to take the franchize, but it's an idea that could change significantly in the next few years before AMS 3 is written. The idea they're saving it is just not realistic. Look at Star Wars for example, George Lucas and Kurtz had an idea where they wanted the series to go, but in 78 they came up with making Darth Vader Lukes father. This made Jedi an entirely different movie than if they left Luke's fathers ghost in the script of Empire. Not to mention how poor of a decision it was to harm a movie by holding something back to you can stretch it out over the span of several films.

No they don't care what a fraction of the internet thinks, but it wasn't "a fraction". The argument wasn't really should they change the origin or not, it was more did they or not. If a the majority of a fraction of the internet is that is that turned off, then it most likely reflects the general publics view. We've had Spider-Mans origin play out over the coarse of like 6 tv shows, several video games, and a movie, most people are familiar enough with it to know it's different.

Anyway, it's clear that they either cut the scene because of the origin or Ratha (with Khans popularity making the movie such a big hit in India, a hard to tap market), not the story.

 

[grieven]

Exactly, the romance in Amazing Spider-Man felt real and genuine.

Absolutely. Garfield, Stone and Webb did a fantastic job conveying a very genuine sense of romance. Something I'm counting on them taking to greater heights in the sequel.

 

[grieven]

the problem is that movies, unless they're based off a novel or play or something, aren't made that way. Sony has an idea of where they want to take the franchize, but it's an idea that could change significantly in the next few years before AMS 3 is written. The idea they're saving it is just not realistic. Look at Star Wars for example, George Lucas and Kurtz had an idea where they wanted the series to go, but in 78 they came up with making Darth Vader Lukes father. This made Jedi an entirely different movie than if they left Luke's fathers ghost in the script of Empire. Not to mention how poor of a decision it was to harm a movie by holding something back to you can stretch it out over the span of several films.

Speaking of George Lucas and Star Wars, if you want to see ham-handed handling of romance, the absolute pinnacle of inauthentic cinematic young love, check out Attack of the Clones. *****e-chill inducing dialogue and absolutely zero chemistry between actors.

 

[kewlmatto]

Absolutely. Garfield, Stone and Webb did a fantastic job conveying a very genuine sense of romance. Something I'm counting on them taking to greater heights in the sequel.

Agreed. This was done better than pretty much any other recent superhero film.

I just hope they keep Gwen around until the third film.