Mark Millar To Consult On FOX's MARVEL ADAPTATIONS

[kaijunexus]

Fox is the absolute worst and their blatant copying of Marvel's plan is just pathetic.

Marvel hires Joss as a consultant? A few weeks later, Fox hires Millar as a consultant.

Marvel's Cinematic Universe pays off huge and is revealed to be a roaring success? Fox suddenly announces that they are also creating a shared universe.

I hope Trank screws Fox over royally and they end up losing the Fantastic Four rights simply because they run out of time. Then they'll just be left with X-Men, which I'm fine with for now. As long as they don't have any excuse to say that they have their own little "Marvel Cinematic Universe".

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

FF and X-Men

dumbest thing i've ever heard

 

[Project862006]

Dear Boys and Girls,

I'm just out of bed and hardly slept a wink. Weirdly, the baby slept right through and we could have had a clear eight hours, but I was still buzzing about the big announcement last night. It's pretty much the biggest thing that's ever happened to me so as you can imagine adrenaline is coursing. For those who missed, I've just signed a contract with Fox to work on ALL their Marvel movies, details of which can be seen here:

PRESS RELEASE: Mark Millar To Consult On FOX's MARVEL ADAPTATIONS

It's way too early to talk about plans just yet, but as you can imagine the idea here is to make exactly the kind of superhero movies you and I want to see most. There literally isn't a more talented bunch of film-makers to be working with and the team at Fox are incredibly excited about this bold new direction too. I also want to post this here to say thanks for the hundreds of emails I woke up to this morning and the thousand-plus tweets I got overnight from well-wishers. I wish I had time to reply to them all today - I usually reply to most of my tweets @mrmarkmillar - but this morning was an AVALANCHE and so I just wanted to so a big thanks, that I've read every one and that they're hugely appreciated. A highlight, I think, was well-wishes from Stan The Man himself. That's like the Pope sending a message. Couldn't have been more exciting.

But my biggest thanks has to go to director Joe Carnahan, I think. It was Joe who suggested me to the bigwigs at Fox for this role as he's always been a supporter of what I did in comics like The Ultimates and so on. He and Matthew Vaughn - both of whom have a very strong relationship with Fox - really pushed for me to get this gig and I just want to publicly thank them both for their support.

Right, better get my Scottish ass showered, dressed and onto work. Kick-Ass 2 resumes shooting here on Monday and I'm on set the week after next, but a TON of stuff to get written before I can get down to Pinewood. Finished issue 2 of Jupiter's Children yesterday for Mister Frank Quitely and issue one of Kick-Ass 3 is now in the can too. Oh, and thanks to everyone who picked up Hit-Girl #3 this week. We sold out by yesterday afternoon and will be going back to press on this and with the FOURTH printing of issue one. Thanks again for spending your hard-earned cash on these Millarworld books and keeping it away from the Romney campaign!

Right. Work. Catch you all later and I promise you are in for an awesome few years. If you're on this board you know how much I'm INTO this stuff.

Lotsa love,
MM

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[JP]

Marvel hires Joss as a consultant? A few weeks later, Fox hires Millar as a consultant.

Marvel's Cinematic Universe pays off huge and is revealed to be a roaring success? Fox suddenly announces that they are also creating a shared universe.

Does any of that really matter, though? As long as the films are good who the hell cares?

I hope Trank screws Fox over royally and they end up losing the Fantastic Four rights simply because they run out of time. Then they'll just be left with X-Men, which I'm fine with for now. As long as they don't have any excuse to say that they have their own little "Marvel Cinematic Universe".

How anyone who is a fan of comic book movies, or the Fantastic Four, can think something like this is just dumbfounding to me.

 

[mclay18]

Miller's involvement feels gimmicky. I'm not well-versed who wrote the creme la creme of Marvel comics, but Millar is a name I felt Fox got because of Kick-Ass and not because of Whedon's exclusive 3-year deal with Marvel Studios.

We'll see how this turns out. Maybe for the good, maybe for the bad...

 

[Project862006]

i think people just think he is the kick ass guy when he has done tons of stellar work in comics

he has written for fantastic four,x men,wolverine,superman,spiderman,etc.

 

[DrCosmic]

Millar is a good choice, he's a solid writer with plenty of film connections. His style is darker, but that's not only okay, but will be further filtered by the directors they choose.

 

[Dr Tactics]

How anyone who is a fan of comic book movies, or the Fantastic Four, can think something like this is just dumbfounding to me.

What's dumbfounding to me is that anybody is ok having 2 or 3 Marvel universes coming out in competition with each other after what Marvel Studios did with the Avengers and instead of saying let cooperate with Marvel Studios/Disney and create one Cinematic Universe we are gonna create (Fox) our own universe totally independant of Marvel and/or Sony because were greedy and don't want to share as was evident in the Daredevil Negotiations. So now two teams (FF and X-Men) who have NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER outside of the other intermingling Marvel characters that they have no rights to and force shoe horn a connection will be a EPIC FAIL. And if MM is so knowledgeable about comics (Even based on his writing work with Marvel) he's suggest that a shared universe is best so that he can tell stories without restrictions like his famed Civi War and Old Man Logan work..

Thats why some hope for it to fail because until it does and folks lose money then they won't entertain what's good for the Marvel CBM as a whole.

I know I'm not supporting these Fox shenanigans and will watch the bootleg on purpose just as I did with XM-OW after they robbed me from money watching XM-3 and those two Fantastic Four Movies. I think Fox owes me.

 

[The Batkilt]

I don't see how it's a bad thing. I don't really care if FOX are "copying" Marvel Studios - I'd rather FOX and WB copy Marvel's blueprint to be honest. I'm one of those people that does get uppity about continuity - as much as I thought First Class was a decent stand alone film, I didn't like how it blatantly contradicted the continuity laid out in the original films. If they'd had someone overviewing the entire X-Men franchise at FOX hands on they could have made sure XO: Wolverine and First Class were not only good movies, but 'fit' with the continuity/universe of the original X-Men franchise.

 

[jonathancrane]

What's dumbfounding to me is that anybody is ok having 2 or 3 Marvel universes coming out in competition with each other after what Marvel Studios did with the Avengers and instead of saying let cooperate with Marvel Studios/Disney and create one Cinematic Universe we are gonna create (Fox) our own universe totally independant of Marvel and/or Sony because were greedy and don't want to share as was evident in the Daredevil Negotiations. So now two teams (FF and X-Men) who have NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER outside of the other intermingling Marvel characters that they have no rights to and force shoe horn a connection will be a EPIC FAIL. And if MM is so knowledgeable about comics (Even based on his writing work with Marvel) he's suggest that a shared universe is best so that he can tell stories without restrictions like his famed Civi War and Old Man Logan work..

Thats why some hope for it to fail because until it does and folks lose money then they won't entertain what's good for the Marvel CBM as a whole.

I know I'm not supporting these Fox shenanigans and will watch the bootleg on purpose just as I did with XM-OW after they robbed me from money watching XM-3 and those two Fantastic Four Movies. I think Fox owes me.[/QUOTE]


1. Fox owes you and the internet fanboy population nothing.
2. If you want to make a greater statement about your frustration with the cinematic adaptations, don't watch the films. Fox is not going to go into a nervous sweat over the loss of one ticket at the box office. At the end of the day, you are still watching the movie, and empowering Fox by giving them your time.
3. There has been not explicit mention of plans for a shared universe, but assumptions. With the existing contracts, I doubt that Fox would try to force the X-Men to appear in a Fantastic Four film, especially in light of how much they are paying the first tier talent.
4. Besides, if anyone read Millar's early Ultimate work, they will notice that the full crossovers do not occur until Volume 2, Book 2 of the Ultimates. His early work focused on the idea of isolated pockets of superhumans emerging around the globe. If Fox proceeds with a shared continuity, it will be along the lines of throwaway mentions ("...this information was acquired from the databanks at the Baxter Building.")
5. Besides, they do not have enough material for a tradtional shared universe. Two superhero franchises do not provide enough raw material to do what Marvel has, with the four pillars of the MCU - Hulk, Cap, Thor, and Iron Man - in addition to the numerous ones that will be constructed in the future (Guardians, Ant-Man, and the rumored BW/Hawkeye film).

 

[Chewy]

What's dumbfounding to me is that anybody is ok having 2 or 3 Marvel universes coming out in competition with each other after what Marvel Studios did with the Avengers and instead of saying let cooperate with Marvel Studios/Disney and create one Cinematic Universe we are gonna create (Fox) our own universe totally independant of Marvel and/or Sony because were greedy and don't want to share as was evident in the Daredevil Negotiations.

X-Men is its own "shared universe", and the fact that they're making Wolvy and X-Men sequels in back-to-back years instead of waiting 3 is probably their idea of said shared universe

Fantastic Four and X-Men have less than nothing to do with each other, I doubt anyone actually wants an unnecessary crossover between the two, much less Fox

Also, yes, film studios are businesses. They are out to make money. If this upsets you I assume you are either very young or very naive

 

[JP]

I don't see how it's a bad thing. I don't really care if FOX are "copying" Marvel Studios - I'd rather FOX and WB copy Marvel's blueprint to be honest. I'm one of those people that does get uppity about continuity - as much as I thought First Class was a decent stand alone film, I didn't like how it blatantly contradicted the continuity laid out in the original films. If they'd had someone overviewing the entire X-Men franchise at FOX hands on they could have made sure XO: Wolverine and First Class were not only good movies, but 'fit' with the continuity/universe of the original X-Men franchise.

This is my thinking as well. As much as I loved First Class, and think The Wolverine is following suit in terms of quality, right now Fox lets their directors roam free to do whatever they want with whatever character they want. They really need someone to steer them all in one clear direction for continuity sake.

 

[misjuevos]

So how long until Franklin is thrown into the mix? Reed has a mutant son, let's call the x-men.

 

[Chewy]

So how long until Franklin is thrown into the mix? Reed has a mutant son, let's call the x-men.

A while. They need to make a Fantastic Four movie that people actually like before they even consider mixing it in with their X properties

 

[Dr Tactics]

1. Fox owes you and the internet fanboy population nothing.

Just cause I feel that way doesn't mean its true so in turn..

2. If you want to make a greater statement about your frustration with the cinematic adaptations, don't watch the films. Fox is not going to go into a nervous sweat over the loss of one ticket at the box office. At the end of the day, you are still watching the movie, and empowering Fox by giving them your time.

If it is just one ticket lost cause of my singular tantrum, then fine but read around you might be mistaken.. But, if I'm the only one with this opinion then true, why would anyone(FOX) care but if if my little opinion is shared in numbers then maybe someone might take heed. My opinion is just that, an opinion unless shared by others hold a little weight. So if thats how they feel then I personally say $@#& Fox. But if they have disappointing Box office results cause more than little ol me then hey @$#* them cause greed aint always good. And Just a hunch. When I went to see Avengers the first weekend I was forced to the midnight show cause all the others were sold out. I'm willing to bet if I were to try to see the FF reboot when it comes out I wont have that problem..

3. There has been not explicit mention of plans for a shared universe, but assumptions. With the existing contracts, I doubt that Fox would try to force the X-Men to appear in a Fantastic Four film, especially in light of how much they are paying the first tier talent.

We don't know for sure it was insinuated. It looked like may have been teasing that. If they were to do that IMO I thinks it's a bad idea..

4. Besides, if anyone read Millar's early Ultimate work, they will notice that the full crossovers do not occur until Volume 2, Book 2 of the Ultimates. His early work focused on the idea of isolated pockets of superhumans emerging around the globe. If Fox proceeds with a shared continuity, it will be along the lines of throwaway mentions ("...this information was acquired from the databanks at the Baxter Building.")

Well Millar might have not written in crossovers but he wasn't creating a universe independant of the Ultimate universe previously launched by Bendis Ultimate Spider-Man and beyond.. Thats what he may have to do cause of whatever the issues are with the Marvel rights are. And as far as throw away mentions that would make even less sense after what the GA has now been exposed to with the Avengers. They would do that just cause they can???

5. Besides, they do not have enough material for a tradtional shared universe. Two superhero franchises do not provide enough raw material to do what Marvel has, with the four pillars of the MCU - Hulk, Cap, Thor, and Iron Man - in addition to the numerous ones that will be constructed in the future (Guardians, Ant-Man, and the rumored BW/Hawkeye film).

Just cause they don't have enough material may not stop them from trying.

 

[psylockolussus]

This is probably for the Fantastic Four movie since The Wolverine is already in production and Days of Future Past has now a script.

 

[Dr Tactics]

X-Men is its own "shared universe", and the fact that they're making Wolvy and X-Men sequels in back-to-back years instead of waiting 3 is probably their idea of said shared universe

I hope your right

Fantastic Four and X-Men have less than nothing to do with each other, I doubt anyone actually wants an unnecessary crossover between the two, much less Fox

I hope your right pt 2

Also, yes, film studios are businesses. They are out to make money. If this upsets you I assume you are either very young or very naive

I'm neither. In fact, I'm up... No, more perturbed, they won't take the opportunity to make MORE money. I mean lets say that Avengers 2 made 2 Billion. Would Fox not want a share of profits with little money out of their own budget? Ask Paramount if they're upset that they got a cut of 1.3 Bill (and whatever they're gonna get from Bluray/DVD sales and rentals) from the Avengers and didn't have to put up a penny. All they said was yes.. They saw the Bigger picture. And let me clear that this is all about the Fantastic Four and not the X-Men because Fox should just concentrate on make Films with that universe but with the Four... Just say yes

 

[Chewy]

And why would Disney want to GIVE Fox a share of the profits? If they have to pay to use a character, they just won't use that character.

Paramount was getting a cut regardless. Disney wanted to control the marketing and home media release(s), so they paid Paramount off. There's no bigger picture for them to have seen.

 

[JP]

I wouldn't be surprised if Franklin Richards appears in DoFP. Wasn't that his first appearance in the comics?

 

[Dr Tactics]

And why would Disney want to GIVE Fox a share of the profits? If they have to pay to use a character, they just won't use that character.

Paramount was getting a cut regardless. Disney wanted to control the marketing and home media release(s), so they paid Paramount off. There's no bigger picture for them to have seen.

Well they, Marvel, put a olive branch out there in Aug in turn for the Daredevil rights so maybe there is a FAIR deal that could be had for use of FF and/or characters toward their current cosmic story

As far as Paramount my point was they got a cut. They got paid a percentage and it payed off. They didn't have to allow the Avengers movie to happen so they saw something bigger. If not they would have held on until the rights just reverted back on its own

edit: Just to add. They could re-introduce the Fantastic Four in the Shared MCU and turn around and make their own movie and maybe use a character or two and have a reverse deal favoring them. they have to Pay Marvel (I believe) anyway just to use the characters per movie. So maybe marvel will waive their fee in return. IDK It's all about negotiations

 

[Chewy]

As far as Paramount my point was they got a cut. They got paid a percentage and it payed off. They didn't have to allow the Avengers movie to happen so they saw something bigger. If not they would have held on until the rights just reverted back on its own

They did have to allow the Avengers movie to happen, it was happening regardless. They signed a deal to distribute it, and Disney later paid them off so that they could distribute it instead.

Basically their choice was to fund all the marketing and get a cut, or pay for nothing and still get a cut. They had no actual say in the movies Marvel was making.

 

[Dr Tactics]

I wouldn't be surprised if Franklin Richards appears in DoFP. Wasn't that his first appearance in the comics?

Didn't think of that but as was said before It'll be best to get the GA to care about their Parents first

 

[JP]

Didn't think of that but as was said before It'll be best to get the GA to care about their Parents first

Well, his role in the comic version of DoFP is so small. So it can be a nice cameo and nod to the fans. And I think its something that the GA would get, too.

 

[The Batkilt]

I'd be a lot more keen on DOFP if Singer hadn't left the production of X3 for that Superman flick, as there'd be a better chance of DOFP fitting in with both the X-Men trilogy and the First Class film. No idea how they tackle Rachel Summers with Cyclops and Jean both being killed off. They either ignore X3 as canon or leave out Rachel entirely, as I hope they don't go down the "alternate universe" route with the films.

Singer's X3 was supposed to end with The Phoenix choosing to live as a god and telling the X-Men and The Brotherhood that she'd "be watching". Jean either being impregnated by the phoenix force or actually being pregnant with Scott's child before that fateful day on Alkali Lake could have been used as an explanation for how the daughter of Jean and Scott came to be.

 

[Marvin]

looking at the going rosters, Fox has some great characters at their disposal. Especially when one looks at who they got that marvel wants. Some of the cosmic players for starters.

I look at the avengers movie without RDJ's stark and I see a film filled with somewhat interesting characters. It never ceases to amaze me that the villain was thors yet he had one of the most inconsequential roles of the bunch. In hindsight even renner had more to do. For me, if it wasn't for whedon all this disney praise would still be at the thor/cap films level, mixed.

Give fox a chance, if first class in any indication of where they can go, now that they got someone who really loves and knows comics making decisions the future is bright.

If millar picked up writing duties on say the Dare Devil comic right now, it would be solid. That itself is worth crap load.