Marvel Announces Origins

[GNR]

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54265

 

[Bullseye]

I posted in the Wolverine remember's everything thread. Interesting news from Marvel.

 

[Rasmon Redux]

just what we need in comics.

more wolverine...

 

[Bullseye]

I ment to say "I posted it in the Wolverine....."

I don't think they need a whole ongoing series just to tell is Origin.

 

[deemar325]

F'ck! Marvel! and F'ck! JoeydaQ!

When will it stop?

 

[Harlekin]

They should have just done that stuff in the regular title.

 

[White_Howling]

sigh are they that broke? why must they milk wolverine for more money

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Wolverine will remember that Xavier is his father?!

 

[Dread]

They should have just done that stuff in the regular title.

You could say that with a LOT of mini-series and so on's that Marvel releases. They seem to be on a mission to spit out more titles than they can support or sell, especially with anything X-related. Note that almost every X-title launched in 2004 has been cancelled due to poor sales, restructuring, or both.

The illusion here is that the "Wolverine remembers stuff" bit is actually nothing new, but is actually his status quo before the 90's WEAPON X story from MARVEL COMICS PRESENTS and the subsequent WOLVERINE arcs introducing more clutter to it with the "false memory implants". Before all that, a story in WOLVERINE where he remembers something in detail and uses it to further the plot happened pretty often.

 

[Harlekin]

You could say that with a LOT of mini-series and so on's that Marvel releases. They seem to be on a mission to spit out more titles than they can support or sell, especially with anything X-related. Note that almost every X-title launched in 2004 has been cancelled due to poor sales, restructuring, or both.

The illusion here is that the "Wolverine remembers stuff" bit is actually nothing new, but is actually his status quo before the 90's WEAPON X story from MARVEL COMICS PRESENTS and the subsequent WOLVERINE arcs introducing more clutter to it with the "false memory implants". Before all that, a story in WOLVERINE where he remembers something in detail and uses it to further the plot happened pretty often.

But at least those were minis. This is actually slated to be an ongoing series and IMO is going to run out of steam after a year.

 

[Dread]

But at least those were minis. This is actually slated to be an ongoing series and IMO is going to run out of steam after a year.

WOLVERINE is running out of steam NOW.

You're absolutely right, there is really no excuse for choosing to do this as a seperate series outside of Wolverine's solo aside for a cynical cash grab at a market that is already oversaturated.

I repeat: nearly EVERY SINGLE X-SERIES LAUNCHED IN 2004 HAS BEEN CANCELLED. Mostly due to poor sales. It appears Marvel has learned absolutely nothing. Yeah, continue stretching the X-line and Wolverine more than the market needs. One day the franchise will crash, like Spider-Man did after the Clone Saga, and then they'll be rather boned.

 

[Harlekin]

WOLVERINE is running out of steam NOW.

You're absolutely right, there is really no excuse for choosing to do this as a seperate series outside of Wolverine's solo aside for a cynical cash grab at a market that is already oversaturated.

I repeat: nearly EVERY SINGLE X-SERIES LAUNCHED IN 2004 HAS BEEN CANCELLED. Mostly due to poor sales. It appears Marvel has learned absolutely nothing. Yeah, continue stretching the X-line and Wolverine more than the market needs. One day the franchise will crash, like Spider-Man did after the Clone Saga, and then they'll be rather boned.

It really is pathetic to see this renewed marketing push for Wolverine. This HoM thing should have been his push story-wise again, but they completely took the wrong direction. Instead of focussing on his actual series, they're trying to get a series of the ground that will ultimately succeed but be another one in the long line of mediocre titles Marvel is producing and one day, people will notice.

Wolverine will regularly appear in:
Wolverine
Wolverine: Origins
Astonishing X-Men
Uncanny X-Men
X-Men
New Avengers
(Ultimate X-Men)

While undoubtedly appearing in the following:
Spider-Man: The Other (which he already has)
Ghost Rider
X-Men: The 198

 

[Bullseye]

Wolverine is everywhere simultaneously.

 

[joke]

Wolverine is everywhere simultaneously.

That's his secondary mutation.

 

[Bullseye]

That's his secondary mutation.

Ah. There in lies the belief that Grant Morrison had that mutants should mutate in his Nex X-Men run.

 

[deemar325]

That's his secondary mutation.

Joey da Q's mutation is bleeding gravy, that fat F-ck! I'm really tired of the guy, him and Axel Alonso what a piece of crap that slug is, every book this chump has edited has been late or continuity issues. He used to work for freakin' HIGH TIMES magizine! He's a lazy editor.

 

[Dread]

It really is pathetic to see this renewed marketing push for Wolverine. This HoM thing should have been his push story-wise again, but they completely took the wrong direction. Instead of focussing on his actual series, they're trying to get a series of the ground that will ultimately succeed but be another one in the long line of mediocre titles Marvel is producing and one day, people will notice.

Wolverine will regularly appear in:
Wolverine
Wolverine: Origins
Astonishing X-Men
Uncanny X-Men
X-Men
New Avengers
(Ultimate X-Men)

While undoubtedly appearing in the following:
Spider-Man: The Other (which he already has)
Ghost Rider
X-Men: The 198

And of course that doesn't include any other side mini's or event mini's or Ultimate mini's (like ULTIMATE X4 or ULTIMATE WOLVERINE VS. HULK).

To be fair, though, ASTONISHING X-MEN doesn't come out frequently and given how they're announcing it as "bimonthly" for 2006, means that at most it'll have 6 issues this year. In 2005 they only shipped 5 issues, and late ones at that. Methinks while the title sells very well, Marvel knows better than to plan ASTONISHING as the flagship X-book, as it is rarely out.

And before someone mentions it, yes, DC does the same thing with Superman and Batman. And it's not right when they do it, either. There, happy? Covered that excuse? Good. In the real world, "he does it too!" stops working to accurately defend your position outside of the first grade schoolyard. Shame many adults haven't realized this.

The irony is that X-23, not Wolverine, had the power to up the sales of a book by no other virtue than a guest appearence last year. And I don't care for her much either.

 

[Harlekin]

Well, I see one notable difference between the Wolverine and Batman/Superman situation. Batman and Superman have another two books devoted to them and are then restricted to one team book, while a cameo here and there. This is a system that I prefer a lot more than the Marvel system, which if you compare Bats and Wolves, would make Batman part of the JLA, Outsiders, Teen Titans and the JSA, as opposed to just having three books devoted to himself.

 

[demento]

It makes sense to me. One book for him to explore his past and the other for him to interact with the Marvel U at large. Now, I don't much care for him being in every effing X-team book AND New Avengers but this is a bit easier to swallow and I for one am looking forward to it.

Also, that cover rocks hard.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Well, most likely he's gettin' kicked off NA an' th' X-Books are gonna be restructured to almost a Blue an' Gold team status again.

An' Wolvie's been better SINCE HoM. Yer all too busy *****in' an' moanin' that he's everywhere to see that. Get off yer high horses an' just limit what books ya read. That's it.

 

[Nick Eastwood]

I think I read somewhere recently when someone asked Quesada if the X-Men were going back to blue and gold status, he said no.

 

[Xofenroht]

The way I see it is that Wolverine is over 100 years old now. So much can happen to a 100 year old man, with a highly advanced healing factor, keen animal senses and retractable claws housed in his forearms over a 100 year span. Millar's one shot issue with him in the concentration camp was pure gold. There's just no mystery to Logan anymore and that's why he's losing steam. If they started telling more stories from his pre-X-Men days and pre-Department H days I'd be happy.

 

[buckster666]

Hopefully they will reduce his roll in Uncanny X-Men & X-Men, that would allow charchters like Gambit (who is so underused of late) to get more of the spotlight.

 

[deathshead2]

I have a feeling we may be heading back to the 90s well goodbye marvel until next time.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

I didn't say they were goin' BACK to th' teams. What I said was in a similar fashion they're gonna designate which book certain X-Men appear in.