Marvel October 2010 Solicitations

Brubaker is doing another Incognito series, that's pretty cool. I would rather him do more Criminal work but Incognito was pretty good. I'm down with that.
 
-Avengers vs Pet Avengers, my God, the unstoppable force vs the immovable object

-Two issues of Chaos War at once! Nom nom nom!

-Is that issue of S.H.E.I.L.D. the one were Teddy takes on the Celestials? I hope so

-Looks like the Marvel Monsters have their own ongoing, that should be fun.

-I can't believe I'm buying a ****ing Deadpool comic, but I will follow Lapham just about anywhere (excluding licensed work).

-People say Millar is really good at writing Superman, not sure how that paradox works, but if true I may try out Superior. Though, if it turns out just to be another on of Millar's deconstruction-lite type deals filled with his 'cool and hip' writing, I'll pass.

All the other stuff looking nice and good
 
Pretty cool that Marvel gets to make Tron comics. It actually sounds pretty interesting, too.

lulz, so Cyclops finally redeveloped a conscience and now X-Force is gonna go off the grid and probably be even more violent and morally bankrupt. Nice.

Avengers Academy's issue for October sounds utterly fantastic. That's the way you steep a series in Avengers lore while keeping it fresh and interesting. :up:

Can't wait for Avengers vs. Pet Avengers. I still wish the Pet Avengers were actually part of the main continuity, but Eliopoulos seems to be treating them as if they are anyway, which is cool.

Captain America: Patriot sounds pretty interesting. I've always wanted to read more about the other Caps over the years. It'll be a welcome break from the ubiquitous "something from WWII comes back to haunt Steve/Bucky!" plot in Cap's comics.

Haha, "more cosmic than Annihilation!" Bold claim, Pak and Van Lente. Hmm, Herc and Thor are co-leaders of the new God Squad? Didn't see that coming, but I like it. I can't wait to see how the hell they're actually gonna agree on enough to effectively lead the team. :D Looking forward to the story of what happened to Herc while everyone thought he was dead, too.

Probably gonna pass on Thunderbolts for the Shadowland tie-in.

Looking forward to how Ben's restored humanity works out this time in FF.

I hope Hawkeye & Mockingbird gets to stick around for a while. It's a good read so far and the big climax to the first arc sounds great.

Yay, Greg Rucka on Marvel stuff again! A Cap story that sounds pretty interesting, no less. Looking forward to the rest of the issue, too.

Dear lord, Parker actually has me kind of interested in Hulk... :csad:

SHIELD's been all rightish so far, but if it doesn't start having a point beyond "there's more to SHIELD than you knew," I'm dropping it.

Heh, Alex with Grasscutter on the cover of Secret Warriors is awesome, but he kind of has that Yoda vibe where the visual of him fighting full-grown adults is slightly ridiculous.

Huh. I must've missed the part where Taskmaster somehow became an "anti-hero." Sounds like it should be a cool mini-series, though. Fred Van Lente can apparently write anything well. :up:

Steve Rogers: Super-Soldier looks good. I agree with those who've mentioned that the super-soldier serum is kind of a ridiculous "Holy Grail" to terrorists, though. Not only are there other ways to obtain vastly more power, the idea that a bunch of terrorists with Cap's peak human powers would somehow be an unstoppable army kind of shortchanges Steve's unique innate heroism, which plenty of other stories have highlighted. He's not such a badass because of his powers, he's a badass because of his idealism, his keen strategic mind, and the strength of his convictions.

Man, I love how DnA have so effortlessly made it plausible in The Thanos Imperative for the old Captain Marvel/Thanos rivalry to be turned on its head with Thanos cast as the unlikely hero and Mar-Vell as the ultimate villain.

Hmm, the Thor solicitation mentions "the Dark Gods." I wonder if those are the same Dark Gods of Jurgens' early arcs on volume 2--Perrikus, Majeston Zelia, et al. I hope so. Those guys were cool, but they only ever got a couple appearances under Jurgens himself. Also, I hope Fraction's ability to write dialogue for Thor has improved.

The Mighty Avenger sounds fun. I'm going to enjoy having it around as an alternate take on Thor.

First Thunder should be interesting. It provides a unique opportunity to subtly retcon some of the inconsistencies of Thor's Journey into Mystery days--like, for example, the fact that Lee clearly initially saw his version of Thor as a human gaining the powers of a god before he later retconned it to be that Thor was always Thor and only got stuck as Don Blake recently. Should be interesting to see how Glass tackles the public's first exposure to a guy claiming to be a real pagan god, too.

For Asgard has me most excited out of the deluge of Thor comics we're getting soon. Robert Rodi's Loki was utterly phenomenal, so I'm looking forward to his second foray into Asgard and its politics. Plus, the basic premise of Thor not being able to access Mjolnir and having to deal with a host of problems without it is always fun. Only thing that gives me pause a bit is Bianchi's art. I'm not really a fan, but I have to admit, his style certainly complements Thor a lot better than it did Wolverine.

I can't stand it when solicitations mention "true" origins or "secrets from the past." That's just code for "the writer's going to retcon a bunch of stuff (usually for no good reason)." I'm not a huge fan of Aguirre-Sacasa, either. Hopefully he doesn't screw Loki up too badly. The art should be great if that cover's any indication, though.

Young Allies looks good. I don't know how long it'll last, but I like McKeever's work with Nomad and Gravity.

Wow, did not expect Dracula to come back so quickly. "Vampire Wolverine" sounds ******ed, though. When in doubt, take Wolverine those last two steps and make him an actual villain. I'm sure his healing factor will cure him of his vampirism at just the right moment, too.

Strange Tales looks kind of cool, but I think I may wait for the trade on it. It would've been nice if Marvel just released it as a single graphic novel to begin with.
 
Tron Bonne said:
-People say Millar is really good at writing Superman, not sure how that paradox works, but if true I may try out Superior. Though, if it turns out just to be another on of Millar's deconstruction-lite type deals filled with his 'cool and hip' writing, I'll pass.
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I'll gladly inform you how the series is so you know whenever to check it out or skip it. :)
 
Avengers vs. Pet Avengers - will probably trade-wait.

Black Widow - not sure whether I'll stick around with Swiercynski; he did a good job on Iron Fist.

Captain America - should be a very compelling story.

Captain America: Forever Allies - we rarely see the heroes in the Pacific Theatre, so I'm looking forward to this.

Captain America: Patriot - trade-wait.

Chaos War - :awesome:

Daredevil

Fantastic Four - I wouldn't have ever thought of Epting as an FF artist, but I'm looking forward to it.

Invincible Iron Man #31 - this'll be my cue to exit, I think.

New Mutants

Secret Avengers - great, now I've got that song stuck in my head.

Shadowland - alright, Daredevil makes Bullseye his *****.:awesome:

SHIELD - one neat consequence of the bimonthly format is we only ever have one month's solicits in advance of an issue coming out.

Steve Rogers: Super-Soldier - the "hardest-hitting" in years? I'm somewhat doubtful, just think of what's gone before.

Thor - undecided about staying around for Fraction's run.

Uncanny X-Force - maybe; if, as that big cover suggested, Havok and
Polaris get involved later, I'm in.

Uncanny X-Men - be interested to see the follow-up with Sebastian Shaw.

Wolverine - Jason Aaron on Wolverine is always a buy for me.

X-23 - I was disappointed at Liu leaving Black Widow, but I'm looking forward to what she does with Laura.
 
Initial thoughts/rants:

- So X-FORCE is being relaunched as UNCANNY X-FORCE. Well...I suppose that is more clever than NEW X-FORCE, ULTIMATE X-FORCE, or YOUNG X-FORCE, Marvel's usual title taggers. I imagine Cyclops will be so shocked that Wolverine, a guy who used to go to bars and murder thugs for fun (creeps deserved it!) would keep Team Stabby alive to go stab things off the grid.

- Carnage is returning...at least ten years after most stopped caring. The solicit implies it is male, but at SDCC we heard the new Carnage is a woman...so what's up?

- Deadpool still has four books.

- Curious how SPIDER-MAN/FANTASTIC FOUR will end.

- That cover to AVENGERS #6 looks completely insane. Don't be fooled, though; I imagine Thor is kicking arse in Bendis' books now because editorial nudged him about the movie coming. I mean, suddenly Thor has four books. Marvel'll be pumping him now, and they can't have Thor losing to muggers in a Bendis book since it's the best selling thing.

- Secret Avengers claims they're the "most popular new Avengers team". That's ambitious, considering how many Avengers books there are. At any rate, it seems a new arc starts with issue six and Brubaker makes good on his vow to bring in Shang Chi. I imagine he replaces Nova, and the line-up has one rotating member every arc. Which isn't such a bad thing.

- Haha, anyone who believes Wolverine is really going to die in New Avengers should probably never breed.

- Avengers Academy #5 looks damn cool. Spotlight is on Striker, who like Finesse, is one who seems likely to become a super villain. While Finesse's issue wasn't one that many liked because she isn't entirely sympathetic, the title needs characters like her and Striker; if NONE of those kids genuinely seem like they could become villains, it makes the Avengers look paranoid. The plot with Whirlwind sounds like the best usage of him in years, if not decades. Good job, Gage!

- I imagine the "Barnes on trial" thing in CAPTAIN AMERICA spawns from Zemo's manipulations. By "destroying" Cap, he means exposing Barnes' ugly legacy and trying to destroy the mantle as America's hero, at least without Rogers. If that is the angle, it is interesting and thought out. I look forward to it.

- Capt. America, also due to a movie, now has 3-4 titles a month as well.

More later...
 
It cracks me up that Deadpool has 4 titles coming out because of a movie, and we all flipped a ****ing wig.

But Thor and Cap? That's cool. :hehe:
 
Nothing in October excites me except Carey bringing back the Children of The Vault in X-Men Legacy. It may be time for a comic hiatus, thanks Heroic Age.
 
Yea, I also find it humerous that at the end of Second Coming, Scott finally disbands X-Force just to have Wolverine start it back up on his own. :funny:
 
It's a better idea for X-Force, I think. If Wolverine's gonna take it upon himself to murder people for the good of mutantkind, he should do it himself and be on the hook for it whenever the X-Men inevitably find out about it.
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
At least most of the Thor comics actually sound good. :oldrazz:
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Perhaps to a hardcore Thor fan. I'm not, so I'll just stick to the main title, so long as Matt Fraction isn't as slow with it as he is with Iron Man.

More:

- Two issues of CHAOS WAR a month sounds good. Khoi Pham returns to Hercules after a long run as the semi-regular artist of MIGHTY AVENGERS while Reilly Brown remains to do back-up strips. Unless retailers are really fooled, this should be selling low, but it doesn't matter. Hopefully this is the sort of epic run that's rediscovered in trades and HC's and becomes an evergreen seller. It's the big conclusion to Pak & Van Lente's run and it seems Mikaboshi has changed his name to "Chaos King". Hmm. There's something both dopey and awesome about an evil Japanese god who decides to take on the cheesy name of a Batman villain. And in a way, this couldn't be a better time for GOD-SQUAD; I imagine a while ago, when JMS was playing with Thor alone, getting him to guest star for so many straight issues may have been quite an editorial chore. Now, Marvel probably wants Thor in every book they write, so he can join the God Squad proper. The line up is still something epic, although Hellstorm seriously seems like the odd guy out. I imagine he's there because he's naturally the "son of Satan" and Satan counts as a god I suppose. With him and Silver Surfer around, it's almost as much of a partial Defenders reunion as it is an Avengers reunion (Hercules, Thor, and Sersi). Part of me does think it might have been cute had Moon Knight shown up as Khonshu's avatar, but the line-up is already vast enough and he'd be underpowered. Looks awesome. Little else to say.

- SHADOWLAND #4 I guess sort of reveals that Bullseye's death wasn't going to stick, a development that was only obvious to those with eyes and homo sapien brains. I don't mind, just when one teases a death for a shocker and then undoes it just as quickly, well...it gets old. As for the SHADOWLAND tie-in's, I imagine Bendis defenders are going to point at everyone fighting ninjas and go, "Y'see, Y'SEE, other writers do it, leave Bendis The Horrendous alone!" The THUNDERBOLTS have a tie in, which makes sense as Luke Cage is involved, and why wouldn't he toss in his team of probies? SHADOWLAND: BLOOD ON THE STREETS I am getting for Shroud and Paladin, and I wonder if Antony Johnston will make a quick mention of Paladin once having Odin's Spear, and determined to keep it out of evil hands.

- SHADOWLAND: MOON KNIGHT may as well be another arc of VENGEANCE OF THE MOON KNIGHT, since Gregg Hurwitz is still writing it. It looks, frankly, more interesting than his last six issues, with Khonshu finally getting fed up with "Jake Lockley's" new, nicer demeanor and enlists a psychopath to get back to mutilating bad guys. It also seems as if Moon Knight is out to take out "the Beast", which is some Hand demon thingie. Looks interesting. I imagine Marvel figured they could maybe earn more cash with this arc as a SHADOWLAND tie in for $4 a pop rather than as more issues of the low selling Moon Knight title. They're probably right, but I hate getting rooked.

- SHADOWLAND: POWER MAN has a lot for me to like. Fred Van Lente writing, with Mahmud Asrar doing the art. A new character created by Van Lente. And Iron Fist. Hell, even Luke Cage is showing up. How could I not give this a go?

- FANTASTIC FOUR #584 seems to take the "Thing can turn human for 2 weeks a year" angle in the predictable conclusion. Of course it will kick in at a critical moment where it screws everything up. Grimm seriously should have known that the moment the deal was pitched. Surely Reed, Johnny, and Sue should have. Ben's been turned human a gazillion times for brief periods, and it has always been at some critical juncture. Of course, they could just dust off that "Thing armor suit" that Ben wore at times, but then where'd the drama be? Johnathon Hickman's run has been pretty good so far, but going down this predictable, done a trillion times route seems to be his first major stumble. There is literally no way to take this angle in a route that hasn't been done before, or makes the Four look like morons since it's happened so many times before. No possible, fathomable way. The only options seem to be either slapping Ben in that armored suit and going, "guess this is a Thursday" and playing it like that, or basically playing Grimm off as an arse kicker without it. Because another predictable tic is any super hero who loses his powers becomes 2000% more effective without them. Joss Whedon utilized that with Cyclops in the last leg of his AXM run, and I groaned. Of course Cyclops with be channeling Capt. Mal without his powers. The logic, however, dictates that if a hero becomes 2000% more effective without their powers, because they have to make up for losing them, then when those powers return, they should be more effective with them, since those new skills would transfer. To the best of my memory, in the entire history of superhero fiction, that has never happened. Or if it did, it was forgotten by the next arc or writer, proving how useless such a story track is. It's possible that Hickman has found a way to make this older than dirt Grimm subplot work in a way that no one recently has managed to make it work, but I'm curious how probable that is.

- I AM AN AVENGER seems to replace AGE OF HEROES once it ends next month. To be honest, I haven't minded the anthology. Sure, many times it is just to promote some new comic, but the stories overall have been good (or at least above average), and it gives talent a chance to break in. Greg Rucka is writing for Marvel now?

- Jeff Parker now writes for HULK with Greg Pak on INCREDIBLE HULK. ULTIMATE X remains the only series Jeph Loeb is writing with his new TV gig, and that depends how many scripts he submitted. The promotion is worth it just to get the guy away from monthly writing, as he seemed, at best, burnt out. The question will be how he handles an editorial style position with TV shows, and whether he can find and encourage talent greater or equal to than his.

- INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #31 promises a double sized finale, and is that the route it goes? Middle for 4 issues, and then the end is a double sized finale? Eh, unless this title shapes up, it may be my last. I mean, look how much fun Fred Van Lente's IRON MAN LEGACY looks in comparison! The Pride and the Serpent Society! Yay!

- More Van Lente with TASKMASTER. Essentially a spin-off to AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE, I will be staggered if it sells well. But, it looks to be good entertainment, and I'll be aboard for every issue.

- I have to say, that cover to STEVE ROGERS: SUPER SOLDIER #4 is very manly. Using one flame thrower isn't enough; Rogers has to use two. Guile's Theme goes with that. Looks awesome.

- THANOS IMPERATIVE moves towards a finale, and it looks cool as usual.

- By now Fraction is on THOR, and I will be curious how slow it is. If it retains his "molasses" style of pace, I may be gone in an arc. I can't take that sort of thing anymore.

- I do question the logic of bothering to make the boss of the Bastards Of Evil a secret when solicited covers make it obvious who he is in YOUNG ALLIES. Obviously, he is or thinks he is the son of the Leader. It is possible he has manipulated his charges, as in issue two, Electro noted how improbable it could be that he has a kid. I also think Sean McKeever made an error, as it seems that Arana was not depowered in GRIM HUNT, or at least he is the only writer who thinks she is. This looks to be the end of the first arc, and I will be stunned if it isn't canceled soon after. Sales are ghastly.

- Curiously, Wolverine is back to only having one solo book. The other two are devoted to his "family", X-23 and Daken, each lamer and less interesting than the next. If Marvel was an actual professional company and not merely a conglomerate of artists pretending to be businessmen, heads would have rolled with how horribly they have played with their Wolverine franchise within the past year. Their plan was to trick WOLVERINE readers into buying Daken's book when he took it over, while making them buy a third Logan book at $4. The result was a disaster. Sales for WOLVERINE: WEAPON X staggered after issue one. WOLVERINE: ORIGINS, a maxi-series, became the flagship. DARK WOLVERINE's fizzled in sales ever since. Wolverine now sells at his lowest point in a very long time. It is possible that this was inevitable; that no character can maintain an indefinite climb in popularity forever. Marvel has long spammed Wolverine since the 90's with all the patience and good sense of a coke-head trapped in a warehouse made of cocaine. But this editorial bungle clearly made it worse. Fortunately, Marvel is a company where editorial errors, missed deadlines, etc., never get anyone fired anymore (Jim Shooter must be especially bitter), so now Marvel still believes Wolverine is healthy enough to support two spin off characters. He isn't, and they'll be shocked when their sales are abysmally bad. But I won't be. Personally, I think it's about time the Canucklehead stumbled, but we're still seeing too many of his books around. He needs to retrench. Instead it looks like a failed DC ploy: "If ______ is struggling, give it some spin off books". Marvel has employed this strategy with Spider-Man lately (since ASM's sales are healthy and steady), and it has failed every single time. How many times must the same strategy be employed over and over and over and over and over again and fail EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMNED TIME before someone in an office wises up and comes up with the primate notion of trying a new approach? It is 2010 and I swear sometimes Marvel still acts like it is 1995, or even 2005 again. It isn't. Look, standing on a panel at SDCC isn't the same as getting outside, seeing reality for what it is. Try it sometime, Marvel. It may not be pretty, but you'll be wiser for it.

- Namor is back to being called "the first mutant". It worked to boost his sales in the 90's. It won't work now. Why? It isn't the 90's anymore. I know it. You know it. So why is Marvel still staggered? I mean, the 90's ended BADLY for them. They should be totally in the now.

- Claremont is now writing two Forever titles. Interesting. They don't sell well, but apparently are meeting low (or reasonable) sales expectations.

- Okay, the solicitations to two Mark Millar comics actually weren't "balls to the wall" obnoxious. What happened? The roofie wore off and Millar forgot to call the solicit writer the next morning?
 
I have a terrible feeling that Fraction's probably not gonna be very good for Thor. Hopefully I'm wrong.
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
It's a better idea for X-Force, I think. If Wolverine's gonna take it upon himself to murder people for the good of mutantkind, he should do it himself and be on the hook for it whenever the X-Men inevitably find out about it.
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Wolverine's never on the hook for anything he does. Just ask the Slingers. Nick Fury tell them that Logan murdered their buddy Hornet? Anyone hold him responsible? I imagine in the Marvel Universe, the "Playing the Psychic Possession Card" happens in legal defenses as often as "playing the Imposter card". :p
 
I'll give Uncanny X-Force a shot, I love Remender's work.

I hope they don't kill off Harry in ASM #646. I'm praying it's Lily (Menace) Hollister.

Avengers #6 is my last with RULK joining the team in #7.

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Slott's writing a SM Shadowland one-shot? Guess that's 2 that I'm getting with the other being Bullseye one-shot. Damn you Shadowland for being so good!:argh:

Rucka on Avengers? Check.

Might have to think about picking up TIH #614-615 if SA is gonna be involved....

Invincible IM #31 might be my last too the way things are going....

Deadpool MAX huh.....hmmmmm. I might have to check out Dave Lapham and see what he's got. He's the guy who wrote Stray Bullets right? I never read it but I heard about it.

No Frankencastle on the list....knew that was coming.:csad:
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I'm dropping Avengers as well (although I'm not gonna bother waiting until #6, since the issues so far have been pretty mediocre), but ironically, I'm kind of thinking of giving Parker's Hulk a try based on that solicitation. It sounds like he has good ideas for the character, plus it's got Thor, plus Hardman's drawing...
 
Dropping 4 and picking up 2, Bendisvengers, Widow, IIM, and Frankencastle are all gone. Not counting the minis, I'm picking up DeadpoolMAX and UXF. Not bad at all....
 
Tron comic... I wonder if this will mean this will be the start of more Disney films (and hopefully television shows *cough*Gargoyles*cough*) being done in comic form.
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
I have a terrible feeling that Fraction's probably not gonna be very good for Thor. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Got the same feeling, might be ok but people dont really seem to be liking his iron man. Also not Punisher 616/frankencastle solicitated this month is it cancel/relaunch time again? :awesome: Hopefully as while the frinkencastle was well enought done it sure wasnt the Punisher so intresting, I await an statement on this soon as Remender has been noticably quiet the last few months. Also there might be a new Frank Castle film from Marvel!?!? :wow: :awesome:
 
I think Fraction'll be fine on Thor. His Ages of Thunder mini-series was quite good, so i don't see how this should be any different. That said, i hope he doesn't write super-decompressed stories like he's doing for ironman.

BTW, speaking of Ironman, am i the only one who is hating his new armor every time i see it?
 
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