Homecoming Marvel & Sony's Spider-Man (2017) General Discussion - - - - - Part 33

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[harryoscop]

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[Spider-Gnome]

As we start yet ANOTHER thread,we keep going around and around waiting for official news. I'm assuming nothing will be announced until after Age of Ultron is released. And until an announcement is made that says otherwise, I'm STILL supporting the following three:

Dylan O'Brien for Peter Parker/Spider-Man
Bryan Cranston for Norman Osborn/Green Goblin
Joss Whedon for writing & director

 

[Spidey_62]

As we start another thread hopefully one day we'll all have something exciting to discuss, but until that day I recommend just watching Daredevil over and over again.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

As we start another thread hopefully one day we'll all have something exciting to discuss, but until that day I recommend just watching Daredevil over and over again.

I'm still watching, I got through episode 4. It gets me excited to think about Spidey & DD team-up with their different styles to take on Kingpin!

 

[Spidey_62]

I'm still watching, I got through episode 4. It gets me excited to think about Spidey & DD team-up with their different styles to take on Kingpin!

I was saying a few months ago how using D'Onofrio's Fisk as a villain in the Spidey movie would be a nice way to tie in the Netflix street level guys with the big-screen anchor to that and the rest of the Marvel universe Spidey can act as. DD is the one character I would be super excited to see Spider-Man team up with above anybody else, would be a big fan of that if they could figure out a nice way for that to work!

 

[MyDudeSpidey]

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You have Dylan in your sig again?! t:

 

[malnat11]

Tonight I compared Spider man 2 and The Amazing Spiderman 2 in regards to the action, and what I thought was missing in TAS2.

Let me break it down:

Spiderman 2

there are 10 times that you see Spiderman swinging through New York City.

2 fight scenes that last roughly 5 min each.

Just an action packed movie, but it did have its dull moments though


Amazing Spiderman 2

You see Spider-man swing through New York City only twice.

He makes an appearance in Times Square to protect the people from Electro, not really engaged in fighting.

At the 59 min mark is the last time we see Spidey until its 120 min into the movie.

At the 120 min mark we see him have the brief conversation with Harry about him wanting Spider-mans blood. Then he leaves again at the 122 min mark.

Spider-man makes his appearance for the finale at the 145 min mark.

So technically we go almost 40 minutes without see Spider-man in action.
No swinging through the city, NOTHING.

This movie should of been called The Amazing Life of Peter Parker, or 500 days of Peter Parker.

I did think Andrew Garfield was a great Spider-man just didnt have that much to work with.

 

[Dark Raven]

I'm hoping we have more of Spidey than Peter Parker this time, and that Spidey comes across as more interesting than Peter so that this is whom audiences will want to watch instead of seeing Peter's civilian life which is what we've mostly been seeing for 5 movies.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I'm hoping we have more of Spidey than Peter Parker this time, and that Spidey comes across as more interesting than Peter so that this is whom audiences will want to watch instead of seeing Peter's civilian life which is what we've mostly been seeing for 5 movies.

Id want the healthy balance like in Daredevil but id be lying if I said I didnt want it to be 60/40

 

[PeterBenParker]

Id want the healthy balance like in Daredevil but id be lying if I said I didnt want it to be 60/40

^

This.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

Id also be lying if I said I didnt want this burger

 

[Talion]

Spider-Man is Peter Parker to me. I don't really care how much time he spends with the mask, as long as Spider-Man is Spider-Man. Meaning, Peter Parker.

 

[PeterBenParker]

Id also be lying if I said I didnt want this burger

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

 

[Talion]

I'm getting a pasta called "Corleone". Be back in ten with pictures.

 

[PeterBenParker]

I'm getting a pasta called "Corleone". Be back in ten with pictures.

If it's anything like this..

 

[Dark Raven]

Spider-Man is Peter Parker to me. I don't really care how much time he spends with the mask, as long as Spider-Man is Spider-Man. Meaning, Peter Parker.

We've had 5 films of more Peter Parker though, and typically Spider-Man does most of his quipping behind the mask. Do you want potentially minimal quipping because he spends most of his time as Parker? That's probably what would have to happen if the actor can't handle the humour.

But audiences don't go simply to see Peter Parker's soap opera life, but to see the wisecracking action hero.

 

[ernesth100]

You know somethings wrong when people start sharing food.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

We've had 5 films of more Peter Parker though, and typically Spider-Man does most of his quipping behind the mask. Do you want potentially minimal quipping because he spends most of his time as Parker? That's probably what would have to happen if the actor can't handle the humour.

But audiences don't go simply to see Peter Parker's soap opera life, but to see the wisecracking action hero.

Thankfully Feige understands this and Peter will be more Quill than Murdock

 

[Mike Murdock]

If Peter Parker doesn't have a significant amount of screentime, they'll be wasting the fact that it's set in High School. Set it in High School and explore it. I always found Marvel characters to be more interesting because the secret identity is often as interesting as the hero.

 

[Spidey_62]

I don't think the soap opera stuff should be an especially big focus either, that's been played out in 5 movies by now. Peter'll be young by the sounds of it, so I think it should be about the whole gamut of those trials.

He's the man of the house now and he wants to take care of his Aunt May, so he's got a job at the Daily Bugle trying to earn some money and that place has its own pace and cast of characters. He's got a full plate at school as well and is trying his best to stay on the better side of his grades and there's all kinds of people you run into on a daily basis as a result like Flash and Liz. Then he's a superhero on top of it all.

One appealing aspect is that his life is hectic and filled with all kinds of interesting people (in and out of costume), as usually our own lives are. Peter's social circle in the TASM films felt small, almost everybody was thrown out. He had Aunt May, evil Harry, and Gwen in TASM2. By the end the only supporting cast member he really had was Aunt May, that's messed up.

You know somethings wrong when people start sharing food.

I'll say.

 

[Mumei]

If Peter Parker doesn't have a significant amount of screentime, they'll be wasting the fact that it's set in High School. Set it in High School and explore it. I always found Marvel characters to be more interesting because the secret identity is often as interesting as the hero.

Agreed. And Parker's relationships - whether we're talking Flash, Harry, Gwen, Mary Jane, Aunt May, Robbie Robertson, Jameson, and other people at The Daily Bugle or Horizon Labs - have always formed the heart of those comics. Peter Parker is the point of Spider-Man comics in a way that, at the time, was really quite different than the relationship of, say, Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent to their title series. It's something we see in a lot of heroes now, both DC and Marvel, but Spider-Man's supporting cast still sets the standard.

And it would represent a failure if they didn't give Peter significant screen time. You can't represent the totality, but at the very least they should make it clear that he exists within a larger web (i'm so sorry) of relationships, even if they don't get the opportunity to show all of them in action in any one movie. If many of the characters are in high school and The Daily Bugle, they can at least identify characters at school and TDB, and then focus on his relationships with the characters that are relevant to whatever story is being told in that movie. But I'd at least like them to show that they're thinking about the bigger picture, too.

 

[ernesth100]

Well Spider-Man is what sells the movie so I'd like at least 3-4 moments of Peter behind the mask doing his thing. But we have to realize Peter Parker's life is vital to Spider-Man's story.