The question is, has Fiege actually retconned anything from the marvel shows yet? or are people just talking for him again when they say he is picking and choosing what to keep?
It’s just people speaking for him.
In regards to the Netflix shows, I’ve been seeing sooooo much discussion on Reddit,Facebook etc about whether or not they are canon.
many people are saying, “Feige said they aren’t canon”, which just isn’t true. He did say something along the lines of the Disney+ shows is the first time the tv shows and films are directly intertwined which is true, but it doesn’t make the Netflix shows any less canon.
Things can happen in the same universe but not cross over. For a very random example, Falcon never met the guy at the deli in Avengers 1. Black Panther never met the blonde lady with the kid in Sokovia. They still exist in the same universe. Not everything needs to cross over to be “connected”.
The stories in the Netflix shows are largely self contained, but doesn’t mean they’re not part of the overall MCU.
I still see people complain that the shows mentions the Avengers but not the other way around. Yes, it would have been super awesome for Daredevil or someone to get a mention in the films, but it wasn’t really necessary.
To be honest, the Avengers really don’t have a need to call upon the Defenders. They’re not even an official team. Hell, besides maybe DD, they’re not even traditional “superhero’s” like the other Avengers characters. They’re all largely local vigilantes. I’m sure they don’t know about every super being in the world.
Yeah, I know the Avengers tower was not shown in some shots on the shows, but I’ll just chalk that up to budget reasons. Loeb gave kind of a silly explanation for that, but it works, I guess.
The fact of the matter is, this stuff didn’t even come into question until the Disney+ shows became a thing and the Netflix shows were cancelled.
Those shows *were* originally made to be part of the larger MCU. Now, it’s all up in the air.
You can choose to believe their canon or you can choose to believe they aren’t.
Until we get actual confirmation, we just don’t know.
The Netflix shows (especially Daredevil) have such a loyal following. I think it would be silly for them to recast characters like Matt or Jessica. They know how much the fans love those characters and the actors that play them. I don’t really see them recasting them if they do decide to bring them into the new shows or movies.
Another example ive seen used to “prove” the Netflix shows are not connected to the MCU is Alfre Woodard being in AOU and Luke Cage as different characters. As if Gemma Chan isn’t in both Captain Marvel and Eternals and different characters :laugh: Yes, she was an alien in CM but still.
If you compare DC and Marvel, DC has always made it pretty clear that the CW shows are not related to the films and even some films exist in their own worlds. (Multiverse stuff aside)
With Marvel, it’s never been like that because everything was meant to be part of the MCU (at least in regards to AoS, the Netflix shows etc). I didn’t really watch AoS past the events of Winter Soldier and I’ve heard the later seasons aren’t really set in the same world, but there’s no denying that at one point, that show was canon.
TL;DR: Fans love to speak for Feige. We don’t know one way or the other what the true fate of these shows in the overall MCU are yet. Only time will tell.