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[Red]

Hmmm...The sheild looks the same, notice the bullet holes.

 

[SonOfCthulhu]

Uhhhhh...How else would he get the armor?

(thanks Red X! )

 

[Fading]

I don't know...Marvel has been extremely bad at keeping CW pics from leaking weeks or months before their released. I honestly would put it past one of them to have leaked the pic to either up interest, or by accident or something.

I mean we've had the rumor for a bit that it's not Stark in the armor at the end of CW. I could possibly see the extremis backfiring and killing Stark possibly or some huge secret being revealed and Stark sacrificing his life to set it right. Then Rogers taking up the IM mantle in respect and signing up with the pro regs. I mean we were starting to think that Rogers would die, so this really isn't a far stretch from that.

Spoiler

Iron Man: Steve Rogers (Paperback)

Looks authentic to me. I mean I kinda hope it isn't, but it wouldn't surprise me if it did happen the way CW's been going. Heck the fake review by that first guy saying Cap is a clone of the original wouldn't surprise me at this point .

 

[Darthphere]

WTF is this time travelling garbage?

 

[PhotoJones]

http://forums.millarworld.tv/index.php?s=&showtopic=67384&view=findpost&p=1512297

and here...

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showpost.php?p=2637583&postcount=1

what the ****?!

 

[Apprentice]

Okay, that CW: Initiative pic and same bullet-riddled shield on both pics has me worried.

But the Iron Man shown in Mighty Avengers isn't wearing red/blue armour...?

 

[GNR]

Stupid. Not going to happen.


GNR I posted the pic in the CW thread if you dont mind.

Not at all.

 

[Darthphere]

COuldn't this be from JMS Bullet Points which has Steve as Iron Man in the comic?

 

[Fading]

Just for kicks did a shield comparison, they are almost identical, but not quite. Meaning it was most likely drawn fresh to be like the original, but not a photoshop copy and paste. The lines in the highlight are close, but not identical, and the bullet wound is more like a smudge on the other. You can tell the artist probably had a shield design to draw off of, but not sure if that helps it seem more true, or just an artist at their home with free time to put out a joke.

 

[Red]

Hmmm...The sheild looks the same, notice the bullet holes.

I just noticed the bullet holes are in the same place on the sheild

Spoiler

 

[Apprentice]

This is making me nervous. Is Marvel about to make one the biggest mistakes in their history?

Tune in February 21st to find out!

EDIT: Still confused about the normal IM armour seen in MA previews, if this is true. Seems like an awful lot of trouble to go to just to mislead us.

 

[PhotoJones]

today's friday. if newsarama doesn't ask joe about this, i'm going to be pissed.

 

[hippy fascist]

This is making me nervous. Is Marvel about to make one the biggest mistakes in their history?

Tune in February 21st to find out!

EDIT: Still cofnsued about the normal IM armour seen in MA previews, if this is true. Seems like an awful lot of trouble to go to just to mislead us.

It's probably coloured that way for artistic effect. In other words to make it clear that cap is in the armour. Assuming it's true

 

[Fading]

K, I'll say I'm very sure it's not a photoshop unless whoever is real good. Not saying I'm good at photoshop or anything, just saying the shields don't line up. First one I did -

Then me trying to rotate the shield, and flip it to mirror the first -

Obviously did it quick so still some of the black lol. I wasn't trying to make it pretty tho . I tried to put the old on the new one, and stretch, rotate, change the perspective and so on. The shield on the right would just not line up with the one on the left. Also the hole at the top of the shield, well half circle at the top is larger on the left than it is the right at the same size. Not to count the holes at the bottom are more narrow at the penetration point (sound wrong lol) on the left than the right. So my guess is it's original art and not a photoshop. Still not sure if that means much tho.

 

[Apprentice]

The shields are far too similar for my liking. Could the whole Bucky/Cap, Steve/IM, and Tony/SHIELD idea really be true?

Sorry for all the typos. It's late out here, and I've just had a few Bacardi & cokes.

 

[wobbly]

This is most Likely a photoshop fake (It's pretty easy to change the armors colors) but if not then I cant see this being anything more than a 'what-if' story of some kind.

 

[Fading]

Thought I'd toss in that we do know someone will die.

http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays30.html

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"NRAMA: Any other post-Civil War projects that you can name? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]JQ: Let’s see, outside of The Confession, we have a project called Civil War: Fallen Son. It’s a five-issue series that is constructed within the five stages of grief. Grief over what? Well, you’ll have to wait and see. What I can tell you is that the series will move from character to character as they deal with a different stage of grief. All five issues are written by Jeph Loeb with a who’s who cast of stellar artists. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Issue #1 stars Wolverine (Denial), art by Leinil Yu
Issue #2 stars New and Mighty Avengers (Anger), art by Ed McGuinness
Issue #3 stars Captain America (Bargaining), art by John Romita, Jr.
Issue #4 stars Spider-Man (Depression), art by David Finch
Issue #5 stars… well that would kind of give the whole thing away. So sorry. But it deals with Acceptance and I’m also going to hold onto the artist’s name for just a bit. Sorry, I know, I suck." [/FONT]





It says there will be grief after the CW, and the 5 books will deal with it, and whatever that 5th book is gives away who dies I guess.

Wolverine being first makes sense somewhat as he went off to track down Nitro on his own. I can see if either Steve or Stark die, Wolverine not fully buying it and tracking them down hence "Denial".

New and Mighty make sense two as if it's either of them, then their teams would be involved (tho we've seen what could be Stark, whereas Cage is going to be NA leader, so it could be Stark using Cap's colors in remembrance ).

Captain America also makes sense, if Stark dies then the "Bargaining" could be Rogers going to the SHRA side to save the others by making a bargain to become the new IM and leading Mighty. If Rogers dies then it could be Stark making a bargain to let NA off the hook, and this be a last issue for Captain America as Rogers, kind of a going away issue.

Spiderman can also go either way. Even if he ended up going against Stark, he did have a period where he looked up to him. I can see Spiderman getting upset with Stark's death because of how close they became. If Rogers dies, I can see Spiderman getting upset at that too.

This is the first big surprise that's really stumping me. A lot of it has been easily guessed, IMO tho even if the ending is murky chances are either Stark or Rogers die (even if they come back later somehow). That would give a definite ending to the back and forth inbetween them in this series. I hope neither dies, it just looks that way.

 

[Eros]

so Cap is dead possibly then.

 

[GOODT!MES]

Stark's gonna be SHEILD director, that's been hinted at since NA #25. The title of the Amazon book is "Iron Man: Steve Rogers", let's not forget, which means that it features Steve Rogers as Iron Man. Also, read the Amazon preview. It talks specifically about Tony Stark becoming SHIELD director. "What this means for Iron Man" or whatever simply deals with Cap taking up the armor in Tony's absence. That's my piece. Neither dies, but Tony leads shield and Cap becomes Iron Man. My guess is they come to some agreement through talking like they did in the Iron Man/Captain America one-shot.

 

[Eros]

^But somebody who is very beloved buy both sides dies.

 

[Fading]

Also found a decent paragraph about the confession.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=96854

CIVIL WAR: THE CONFESSION (NOV068200)
Written by BRAIN MICHAEL BENDIS
Pencils & Cover by ALEX MALEEV

From the Eisner Award winning team that brought you the start of CIVIL WAR with the NEW AVENGERS ILLUMINATI SPECIAL comes this heart-wrenching finale that cannot be missed. Two of the Marvel heroes most affected by the shocking conclusion of the war get together one last time. What is said between them will set the course of the Marvel Universe for years to come. This is the confession.

Blood on Cap's shield?


Edit - Something else I just picked up on.

"Brian Bendis: Well, that will be a question answered in the pages of Captain America, and in this book. But this is Cap’s team. Cap said these people are the Avengers so that is why they are Avengers. And what that means and how that motivates the team is a big, big, big, big part of why the series exists after Civil War. These people are together for a reason and just because the person who put them together isn’t physically there doesn’t mean that reason doesn’t matter… or matter more…"

Bendis says "just because the person who put them together isn't physically there" (refering to Cap), does that mean Rogers isn't even going to be there as Ronin? I wonder if that was a slip, or if he meant isn't there in the beginning but will come back. I probably read way to much into that, just a thought.

 

[Phoney Bone]

I'm betting Marvel is letting out fake stuff to throw people off. Wouldn't be the first time.

 

[GOODT!MES]

Let's collaborate a guess. Wolverine, Spider-Man, and Captain America all deeply love whoever it is, enough so that Wolvie would deny their death and Spider-man would become depressed. I'm convinced it's not Iron Man.

Maybe the death is of Iron M-damn it. I'm spent.

 

[The Geek Vault]

My bet is its a kid hero, like a young avenger or a runaway... I bet you its stature. Because both know her from Scott Lang. And it would pass her out of YA second season!

 

[Specter313]

Isn't anyone noticing how it's even contradicting itself? The title says [BLACKOUT]Steve Rogers[/BLACKOUT] yet the book description is all about [BLACKOUT]Tony.[/BLACKOUT] It doesn't fit together and much more than likely some big prank.