Matchups,.... Just Becuase.

[Manic]

aren't they the same character?

Yep, same character. But she started off as the Star-Spangled Kid with that enhancement belt, and didn't start calling herself Stargirl until Starman retired and gave her his Cosmic Rod.

It's like the difference between Marvel Girl and Phoenix. One was a so-so telekine with little or no telepathy, and the other his a power house surrounded by a fire bird.

 

[Harlekin]

Who is White Queen fighting though? I still can't make it out.

Faith.

 

[Varient]

Black Canary wouldn't even see Elektra until shortly after she realized she was choking on her own blood.

^^ I second that.

Heh, Elektra is Marvel U most dangerous assassin. She has a killer instinct that BC lacks.

Dude, read Dark Reign: Elektra. Her level of badassitude is off the charts.

yet she can be whooped and replaced,... killed three or for times - once by someone who's super power is " I never miss".

If you put her in a well lighted room against BC,... she loses.

Can Daredevil beat her? if so,.. then she's nowhere near the level she needs to be to beat BC.

Besides the sword/claw-fodder that is the Hand,... has she beat an entire army including tanks and whatnot? BC has.

I admit she's nice to look at,... but she's not in the same class as far as a straight up fight.

 

[Varient]

Faith.

Oh,... Then the White Queen loses - It'll take longer if she goes diamond.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Iron Man already kicked his ass, with that outdated armor.

 

[Varient]

Iron Man already kicked his ass, with that outdated armor.

Gee I hope so.

 

[chiefchirpa]

yet she can be whooped and replaced,... killed three or for times - once by someone who's super power is " I never miss".

If you put her in a well lighted room against BC,... she loses.

Can Daredevil beat her? if so,.. then she's nowhere near the level she needs to be to beat BC.

Besides the sword/claw-fodder that is the Hand,... has she beat an entire army including tanks and whatnot? BC has.

I admit she's nice to look at,... but she's not in the same class as far as a straight up fight.

Wut? Ever check the recent Dark Reign: Elektra? It's that "never miss" assassin that gets stabbed by her with a blunt arrow.

Daredevil can't beat her by any conventional means. She's (Marvel) most dangerous female assassin and you bet there's more chance for Elektra promoted to Marvel female top fighter spot than BC who needs to get by the Bat family females or the ever present Lady Shiva.

 

[Harlekin]

Oh,... Then the White Queen loses - It'll take longer if she goes diamond.

The Queen should be able to take her out with a quick mind blast.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Sad but true. Wasn't Faith mostly telekinetic? Her only telepathic power that I recall was her ability to instill trust in others.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Wut? Ever check the recent Dark Reign: Elektra? It's that "never miss" assassin that gets stabbed by her with a blunt arrow.

Daredevil can't beat her by any conventional means. She's (Marvel) most dangerous female assassin and you bet there's more chance for Elektra promoted to Marvel female top fighter spot than BC who needs to get by the Bat family females or the ever present Lady Shiva.

Nope. Gamora is, she hulk is also a better fighter. Elektra is in daredevil's league which in itself doesn't make her top anything. Not saying I don't like daredevil, but he's street level. BC would murder her in moments.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

She-Hulk's a better fighter than Elektra? Why?

 

[moraldeficiency]

She was trained by gamora to beat champion. She's got space kung fu.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, I don't think anyone remembers that at this point. She seems to have snapped back to being just shy of the Hulk's strength and a decent brawler.

 

[moraldeficiency]

I still remember, damnit.

 

[Majik1387]

Faith.

Okay, looked her up and
Faith > White Queen

 

[chiefchirpa]

Nope. Gamora is, she hulk is also a better fighter. Elektra is in daredevil's league which in itself doesn't make her top anything. Not saying I don't like daredevil, but he's street level. BC would murder her in moments.

Gamora is a space alien and by that she's afforded special abilities. She Hulk is not a better fighter even if she's taught by Gamora, her strength alone makes every fight easy without her employing any skill. While Elektra needs her skill & grit to survive. You know what.. Elektra is a bit more famous to mainstream now than She Hulk because of the movie exposures so if all goes well, Marvel will try to rehabilitate her as what she should be - the most skillful human female assassin. Might not be the best fighter because she lacks power but she's almost the female Shang Chi.

Heh, BC is also street level if not her "out of place" sonic scream. Other than that, she doesn't have the same killer instinct as Elektra.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Ok there fella, no use in explaining logic and sense. BC is a better figher who could shout a victory. Killer instict doesn't mean **** if you get knocked the **** out and make no mistake that's how the fight ends. She got rocked by bullseye repeatedly. She's not and never will be in the big leagues.

Other people who would kick her ass:

typhoid mary
echo
copycat
domino
X-23



You might have something to work with if she wasn't constantly losing and dying.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Ok there fella, no use in explaining logic and sense. BC is a better figher who could shout a victory. Killer instict doesn't mean **** if you get knocked the **** out and make no mistake that's how the fight ends. She got rocked by bullseye repeatedly. She's not and never will be in the big leagues.

Other people who would kick her ass:

typhoid mary
echo
copycat
domino
X-23



You might have something to work with if she wasn't constantly losing and dying.

Bullseye got arrow on his chest recently or you just got tired of reading Elektra? The Elektra Echo was fighting was a Skrull.

Losing & dying was past tense. I'm sure they'd handle her better this time.

 

[Manic]

Something to chew on: Green Arrow once shot an arrow at Black Canary, and she caught it mid-flight. He was finding the quickest way to hand her a weapon.

 

[Anubis]

That's what i'm sayin. BC is just waaaay too awesome for her.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Bullseye got arrow on his chest recently or you just got tired of reading Elektra? The Elektra Echo was fighting was a Skrull.

Losing & dying was past tense. I'm sure they'd handle her better this time.

So that's one win for Elektra vs. getting her ass killed by him a bunch of times. Yeah I'm not paying dark reign prices for a story that's pretty useless and will have no impact on anything.

Skrull Elektra did in fact kick normal elektra's ass, that's how she got replaced to begin with.

Past tense? You can say that about everything couldn't you? Isn't past actions how we gauge present and future outcomes? I don't see where you're going with this. Wouldn't that dark reign stuff you're so hyped about be past as well and therefore invalid?

I don't think she's handled badly, but she's daredevil level, you're building her up like she's the "most dangerous assassin" and at best she's the most dangerous chick in hell's kitchen. And that's only when bullseye and typhoid mary are on vacation.

I'm gonna say you know nada about BC.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Something to chew on: Green Arrow once shot an arrow at Black Canary, and she caught it mid-flight. He was finding the quickest way to hand her a weapon.

Elektra has deflected automatic weapon fire with her sais.

And yes; she has defeated Daredevil quite easily.

 

[Anubis]

Yeah well, I think BC could take DD too.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Easily, super hearing equals a spectacular beatdown.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Doesn't Elektra have some kind of ninja magic going for her? I thought her series from a few years ago was all about her being a super-badass assassin with ninja magic.