MCU Fight: Erik Killmonger Vs. Winter Soldier

[BigThor]

We will be doing VS. battles for the MCU every week and will be using the Winners and Losers to create an accurate power tier list created by some of it's biggest fans (you). So don't forget to VOTE and after voting for a Winner please include a comment on which power tier, both the Winner and Loser should reside within. Also, see below for more details on the characters abilities as well as for a list of available power tiers to choose from.

Don't forget to put which Tier group you think Erik Killmonger and Winter Soldier belong to in your posts. Also, don't forget I've now added the option of being able to change your vote if you change your mind.

So, without further delay here is this week's match up.

ERIK KILLMONGER

Vs.

WINTER SOLDIER

ERIK KILLMONGER

- Enhanced Strength: In addition to being in peak physical conditioning, the herb endowed Killmonger with strength proportionate to that of his cousin. As the Black Panther, Killmonger was able to challenge both T'Challa and the Dora Milaje in close combat, proving himself an almost indefatigable fighter.

- Enhanced Durability: Killmonger is much more durable than a normal human being. Even when not wearing his Panther Habit, he can survive immense blunt force trauma.

- Enhanced Speed: Killmonger can run and move at speeds above normal humans.

- Enhanced Stamina: Killmonger's musculature produces fewer fatigue toxins during physical activity than the musculature of an ordinary human. Killmonger's body eliminates the excessive build-up of fatigue-producing chemicals in his muscles, granting him exceptional endurance and lung capacity, greater than of normal humans.

- Enhanced Agility: Killmonger's agility is outstanding, far greater than Olympic athletes. His movements are akin to an actual panther, being capable of crawl and climb through walls and leap great distances with accuracy.

- Enhanced Reflexes: Killmonger's reflexes are superior to those of the finest human athlete.

- Master Martial Artist: Due to his life long rigorous training as a SEAL and Black Ops mercenary, Erik was an extremely strong and skilled master martial artist, one of the most dangerous fighters on the planet. Erik's skill was great enough that in their first duel, in which both of them had no superhuman physical abilities, he was able to fight reasonably evenly with T'Challa and even ultimately. After drinking the Heart Shaped Herb, Erik became even more formidable due to gaining superhuman physical powers, to the point that while wearing the upgraded Panther Habit, he could fight off many members of Dora Milaje.

- Sword Mastery: Killmonger was able to wield Wakandan swords and similar bladed weapons with great skill. His skill with a sword allowed him to go up against T'Challa in their duel for the throne and even beat him and later easily defeat many members of Dora Milaje and Nakia by himself.

- Expert Marksman: As a former American black-ops mercenary, Killmonger was incredibly accurate with firearms. He was able to wield both high caliber assault rifles, as well as handguns with great accuracy.

- Master Tactician: Killmonger was a proficient strategist, able to formulate and execute cunning strategic plans. Killmonger was able to find a Wakandan weapon made of vibranium within the Museum of Great Britain and, with his group, helped Klaue steal the weapon. When T'Challa finally managed to capture Klaue after thirty years of pursuit, Killmonger and his group were able to strategically save him.

- Master Assassin: Although, Killmonger was not as a deadly assassin as Winter Soldier. However, Due to his intensive experience as a Navy SEAL and mercenary in an American Black Ops Ghost unit, Killmonger is very skilled in assassination techniques, as well as espionage, intelligence gathering, infiltration, and sabotage. He gained the nickname "Killmonger" due to his substantial kill-count which, according to Everett Ross, he “racked up like a video game”.

- Expert Acrobat: Upon acquiring the powers of the Heart Shaped Herb, Erik's immensely enhanced agility made him an extraordinary gymnast and acrobat, which allowed him to combat Black Panther on equal grounds.


WINTER SOLDIER

- Enhanced Strength: As the Winter Soldier, Barnes's physical strength is immensely enhanced to the early levels of superhuman condition by a series of treatments performed on him by HYDRAscientists. He has used his legs and right arm to strike enemies with tremendous force and his physical might is easily on par with Captain America.

- Bionic Arm: HYDRA also removed the remnants of his severed left arm and replaced the missing limb with a cybernetic one. The bionic arm gives him extraordinary superhuman strength superior equal to that of Captain America, though not quite on par with that of Spider-Man. Winter Soldier was able to rip open a S.H.I.E.L.D armored SUV, rip apart Falcon's EXO-7 suit, and smash concrete by punching it. With his bionic arm supporting his already enhanced natural strength, the Winter Soldier was shown to be able to overpower Captain America in a fight. Furthermore, the bionic arm also allows Winter Soldier to slightly damage Iron Man's Mark XLVII Armor chest during his fight.

- Enhanced Durability: Winter Soldier's bones and muscles are apparently vastly denser and more resilient than a normal human's. He even managed to survive a fatal fall from immense heights into Daube River in the Swiss Alps. Arnim Zola's further experiments greatly fortified his physique to the extent that he routinely leaps from significant heights onto hard surfaces and lands without any apparent injury. Bucky was able to leap off a bridge to the top of a car below, crushing the roof and shattering the windows while he was unfazed by the landing. He was also able to withstand blows from various opponents that would have seriously injured or killed an average person.

- Enhanced Speed: Winter Soldier's speed is tremendously enhanced beyond the peak of human potential, moving into the early levels of superhuman condition. Bucky's speed is equal to both Black Panther and Captain America, as he was able to stay ahead of them with a slight head start. In combat, he can easily keep up with the extremely agile Black Widow and Black Panther.

- Enhanced Agility: Winter Soldier's vastly enhanced agility is superior to even Olympic gold medalists. He could quickly leap on top of midsize cars in a single bound and do complicated acrobatic flips to avoid gunfire into cover.

- Enhanced Stamina: Winter Soldier's musculature produces far less fatigue toxins during physical activity than the musculature of an ordinary human, allowing him to exert himself at peak capacity for hours before tiring. Hence, he could endure the Clash of the Avengers and the later showdown at the HYDRA Research Base without showing signs of fatigue.

- Enhanced Reflexes: Winter Soldier's reflexes are enhanced to extraordinary levels. His reflexes are responsive enough to catch Captain America's shield being thrown at him at a high velocity. He was also able to catch enemy grenades thrown at him, dodge fire from Falcon's Steyr SPPs, and leap on top of a moving car accelerating towards him with pinpoint accuracy.

- Regenerative Healing Factor: Winter Soldier's body is able to heal with extraordinary speed and efficiency, that are beyond of a regular human being, though he is unable to regenerate missing limbs. This may be one of the factors of his survival from the Swiss Alps. Also, the injuries he had received during his battle with Iron Man healed in a matter of days without bruises or scars.


*****Below is the list of power tiers to choose from. Please select a power tier for each character doing battle (the characters below in Red are not in any particular order). Be aware both characters can share the same power tier*****

The character's current statuses below are as follows

*****NOTE: Characters that are OFFICIAL will always be Placed above characters that are UNOFFICIAL.*****

Cosmic Tier (cosmic/interdimension level power/presence on a planetary scale, at the minimum)
Thanos (w/ Filled Infinity Gauntlet)
Dormmamu
Eson The Searcher with Infinity Stone
Surtur Prime
Ego The Living Planet
Odin
Doctor Strange (w/ Time Gem)

Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale?)
Thanos w/ the Power Stone
Hela
Ronan with the Power Stone
Kurse
Surtur's Fire Dragon
Fenris
Thor
Ultron Prime (Vibranium)


Powerhouse Tier (Beyond top tier, power/interdimensional power on a block to city Level)
Vision
Malekith (W/ reality gem)
Hulk
Doctor Strange
Ghost Rider
Ebony Maw
Scarlet Witch
Hulkbuster Iron Man
The Destroyer
Abomination
Cull Obsidian
Pre-Eternal Flame Surtur
Abilisk
Jotunheim Beast
Kronan
Ancient One
Giant Man
Kaecilius

Top Tier (Street to block level?)
Ronan
Valkyrie
Iron Man
Hogun
Aldrich Killian
Loki
Drax
Heimdall
War Machine
Iron Monger
Whiplash
Quake
Malekith
Sif
Fandral
Volstagg
Korath The Pursuer
Groot
Killgrave
Yondu
Lash
Hive
Frigga
Pepper Potts with Extremis
Mantis
Skurge
Korg
Baron Mordo
Master Wong
Corvus Glaive

Superhuman Tier (Street Level)
Black Panther
Captain America
Spider-Man
Gamora
Star-Lord
Vulture
Falcon
Winter Soldier
Red Skull
Spiderman
Crossbones
Quicksilver
Iron Fist
Luke Cage
Jessica Jones
Eric Savin (Extremis Soldier)
Ellen Brandt (Extremis Soldier)
Emil Blonsky (Super Soldier)
Madame Gao
Mr. Hyde
Slingshot
Aida
Raina
Deathlok
The Patriot
Carl Creed the Absorbing Man
Lorelei
Nebula
Miek
Ant Man
Yellow Jacket
Proxima Midnight
Erik Killmonger
Ulysses Klaue

Street Tier (non super human, agent level)
Daredevil
Elektra
Black Widow
Okoye
Rocket Racoon
Hawkeye
Punisher
Coleen Wing
Batroc the Leaper
Shocker
Kingpin
Nobu
Diamondback
Bakuto
Peggy Carter
Sharon Carter Agent 13
Dum Dum Dugan
Mocking Bird
Maria Hill
Misty Knight
The Punisher
Nick Fury
Phil Coulson
Zemo
Jig Saw
M'Baku
Shuri

 

[jolldan]

Does Killmonger get the suit?

If he does its a clear stomp for Killmonger if not it's a very competitive fight before Bucky's physical advantages in terms of his super soldier serum and bionic arm give him an edge that allows him to take out Killmonger.

 

[BigThor]

Does Killmonger get the suit?

If he does its a clear stomp for Killmonger if not it's a very competitive fight before Bucky's physical advantages in terms of his super soldier serum and bionic arm give him an edge that allows him to take out Killmonger.

Yes Killmonger has his suit and Bucky has all of his guns, grenade launchers, and other fire arms.

 

[THORin]

Bucky! I would put them both in the Superhuman tier, though.

 

[jolldan]

Have to go with Killmonger then.

Just dont see any way for Bucky to land a fatal blow when Erik has the suit especially when I can’t think of any sonic weapons Bucky has that could compromise the Black Panther suit.

 

[Luigi]

Killmonger. He's too OP with the suit.

 

[Docker2.0]

Killmonger. The suit gives them the edge, not to mention he has killed probably just as much as Bucky.

 

[Batmannerism]

Have to go with Killmonger then.

Just dont see any way for Bucky to land a fatal blow when Erik has the suit especially when I can’t think of any sonic weapons Bucky has that could compromise the Black Panther suit.

Give Bucky one weapon which can pierce the suit then Bucky, otherwise the suit gives Kilmonger too much of an advantage - although we've seen that sufficient force can stun someone wearing those suits, not sure if Buck can generate much force.

 

[BigThor]

Give Bucky one weapon which can pierce the suit then Bucky, otherwise the suit gives Kilmonger too much of an advantage - although we've seen that sufficient force can stun someone wearing those suits, not sure if Buck can generate much force.

He could with a grenade launcher, I said Bucky has access to all of his weapons.

 

[Jaiden Edo]

Bucky beats suitless Erik but loses to suited Erik.

 

[jolldan]

He could with a grenade launcher, I said Bucky has access to all of his weapons.

Would a grenade launcher even do anything though?

Just thinking of this clip from Civil War, granted I know Bucky's grenade launcher would probably be stronger but Hawkeye's explosives are no joke just one sent Iron Man flying.


And it literally does nothing to BP (expect maybe irritate him a bit more)

 

[BigThor]

Would a grenade launcher even do anything though?

Just thinking of this clip from Civil War, granted I know Bucky's grenade launcher would probably be stronger but Hawkeye's explosives are no joke just one sent Iron Man flying.


And it literally does nothing to BP (expect maybe irritate him a bit more)

I'm sure a grenade launcher is much more powerful than Hawkeye's explosive arrows.

 

[jolldan]

I'm sure a grenade launcher is much more powerful than Hawkeye's explosive arrows.

True but explosives have not shown any real effectiveness against Vibranium to my knowledge, throw Bucky a Vibranium dagger and things get interesting lol.

 

[BigThor]

True but explosives have not shown any real effectiveness against Vibranium to my knowledge, throw Bucky a Vibranium dagger and things get interesting lol.

That armored rhino sent Black Panther (in suit) flying and KO'd him for a short, if nothing else the concussive impact of the grenade launcher should be similar.

 

[Iceman]

Does Killmonger get the suit?

If he does its a clear stomp for Killmonger if not it's a very competitive fight before Bucky's physical advantages in terms of his super soldier serum and bionic arm give him an edge that allows him to take out Killmonger.

Agreed with this. With the suit Killmonger would have too much about him for WS but without WS would eventually win.

 

[BigThor]

Agreed with this. With the suit Killmonger would have too much about him for WS but without WS would eventually win.

Everyone keeps saying this but they're forgetting that suitless T'Challa gave WS the business in each of their scuffles in Civil War, he clowned him really.

 

[Chance Jackson]

Killmonger with suit 10/10
Without suit Bucky 8/10

 

[Batmannerism]

That armored rhino sent Black Panther (in suit) flying and KO'd him for a short, if nothing else the concussive impact of the grenade launcher should be similar.

Thanos flattened suited Black Panther with a punch, so a hefty impact can certainly stun him. Not sure how grenades match up to concussive force of Thanos, who also punched out the Hulk.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

That armored rhino sent Black Panther (in suit) flying and KO'd him for a short, if nothing else the concussive impact of the grenade launcher should be similar.

Don't go by dramatic pictures from The Terminator. A grenade launcher fires a slow round, around 275 feet per second compared to a shotgun slug being pushed out at almost 1800 feet per second. The power comes from the grenade is from explosive charge not kinetic energy of the round. At best you have a giant beanbag round like the police use when choosing a less lethal ammunition type. People hit by police beanbags don't go flying, even in the movies.

 

[BigThor]

Don't go by dramatic pictures from The Terminator. A grenade launcher fires a slow round, around 275 feet per second compared to a shotgun slug being pushed out at almost 1800 feet per second. The power comes from the grenade is from explosive charge not kinetic energy of the round. At best you have a giant beanbag round like the police use when choosing a less lethal ammunition type. People hit by police beanbags don't go flying, even in the movies.

Yeah I was talking about the concussive impact of the explosion.

 

[jolldan]

Everyone keeps saying this but they're forgetting that suitless T'Challa gave WS the business in each of their scuffles in Civil War, he clowned him really.

I don't necessarily think he would win just think you have much more of a 50/50 match up without the suit. That fight wasn't exactly a stomp for BP although I can only really remember the one suitless fight. Plus he jumps him when he's already fighting Widow that's some sneaky cat **** lol

 

[Spider-Fan]

I doesn't really jump him. He jumps in front of them and then they kung-fu fight, where he is handedly winning. It's not like he was beating him up from behind or something.

 

[jolldan]

is handedly winning. It's not like he was beating him up from behind or something.

Terrible gif I know lol but you just see it right at the end sneaky cat ****

 

[Spider-Fan]

I doesn't really jump him. He jumps in front of them and then they kung-fu fight, where he is handedly winning. It's not like he was beating him up from behind or something.

Terrible gif I know lol but you just see it right at the end sneaky cat ****

But then he runs away and T'Challa leaps in front of him, they stare each other down, and in that part of the fight, they're on equal ground and he is still winning.

 

[jolldan]

I doesn't really jump him. He jumps in front of them and then they kung-fu fight, where he is handedly winning. It's not like he was beating him up from behind or something.


But then he runs away and T'Challa leaps in front of him, they stare each other down, and in that part of the fight, they're on equal ground and he is still winning.

Oh yeah it's close definitely with T'Challa having the edge just wouldn't say its enough of a trouncing to assume without the suit Killmonger takes it, plus this bit has always annoyed me lol I know they are superheroes but T'Challa's rib cage should have folded up like an accordion