MCU Fight: Hela Vs. Thanos (Power Stone)

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We will be doing VS. battles for the MCU every week and will be using the Winners and Losers to create an accurate power tier list created by some of it's biggest fans (you). So don't forget to VOTE and after voting for a Winner please include a comment on which power tier, both the Winner and Loser should reside within. Also, see below for more details on the characters abilities as well as for a list of available power tiers to choose from.

Don't forget to put which Tier group you think Hela and Thanos belong to in your posts. :up:

So, without further delay here is this week's match up

HELA VS. THANOS w/POWER STONE

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HELA

- Superhuman Strength: Hela possesses tremendous levels of superhuman strength, which allowed her to single-handedly wipe out all of the Valkyries (with only their leader barely surviving), and to even easily catch Mjølnir with one hand after it was thrown at her with full speed, before crushing it in her hand with no visible effort, in spite of it being one of the most powerful weapons in existence, causing it to explode in a blast of lightning. Hela later slaughtered the Warriors Three, Skurge, and the combined might of the Einherjar with ease. Furthermore, she was able to easily physically dominate Thor himself in two of their three battles, sending him flying with her attacks, and proved to have enough strength to injure the nearly invulnerable Asgardian, easily overpowered and tossed Valkyrie. away. Even after Thor gained his full powers, Hela proved to be still too strong for him. Only a fully-empowered Surtur and Odin at his prime was stronger than Hela, with Odin imprisoning her in Hel and Surtur managing to destroy her by destroying Asgard.

- Superhuman Durability: Hela's body, much like that of Thor, appears nigh-invulnerable, although her durability surpasses even her brother's, which allowed Hela to easily block spear strikes from a Gungnir-wielding Thor with her bare hands, and to even catch Mjølnir without injury. Hela was even unharmed after grabbing a handful of the Eternal Flame, impaled through the torso with an Einherjar's sword and stabbed with Gungnir by Thor without her body or her clothing being damaged, and emerged completely unharmed after a fully-empowered Thor hit her with massive lightning bolts. Indeed, only revived and enhanced Surtur's Twilight Sword was able to crush her, thus sending the Goddess of Death into oblivion.

- Superhuman Stamina: Like all Asgardians, Hela's musculature produces considerably less fatigue toxins during physical activity than the musculature of humans or normal Asgardians, allowing her to defeat numerous Asgardians, as well as fight against the combined might of Thor and Valkyrie without tiring.

- Superhuman Speed: Hela can move at exceptionally high speeds, as she was fast enough to keep up with and even outpace Thor and Valkyrie in combat, as well as even being fast enough to catch Mjølnir with one hand.

- Superhuman Agility: Hela naturally possesses greater agility, dexterity, balance, and body coordination than that of a human, and even most other Asgardians, with her managing to dodge and outpace Thor and Valkyrie's attacks for the majority of her battles with them and easily jump through a crater and land fully on her feet.

- Extended Longevity: Due to her connection to Asgard and to Hel, Hela is immortal and will not die, so long as the realm of Asgard exists.

- Supernatural Connection: As the first born of Odin, Hela has a supernatural connection to the realm Asgard, and can draw power from Asgard itself to perform incredible supernatural abilities. Hela can manifest various physical structures out of thin air, ranging from weapons to ground structures to even her own armor. She can even draw power from Asgard to enhance her natural abilities.

- Weapon Manifestation: Hela can manifest various weapons out of different parts of her body, though she would usually generate Necroswords, daggers, spears, and axes. These weapons are incredibly durable and sharp, enough to not only instantly kill the likes of Warriors Three and Skurge, but also even pierce right through Thor's nigh-invulnerable body, with Hela thus gouging his right eye out with a Necrosword. She also manifested the Bloodaxe, which she then gave to Skurge. Hela later launched oversized blades into a large gate to a secret cave where the fleeing Asgardians were hiding, allowed her to bring it down by telekinetically pulling the blades down along with the gate. She was also able to generate these spike-like constructs from the ground to pierce Surtur with, but that ultimately proved ineffective against the Fire Giant.

- Structure Manifestation: Hela could manifest metallic, blade-like structures from the ground surrounding her, as seen when she attempted to prevent Loki's spaceship containing the Asgardians from launching from the doomed realm, and later when she attempted to gain elevation during her short battle with Surtur.

- Armor Manifestation: After being freed by Odin's death, Hela was able to repair the damage to her clothing and make her headdress appear and disappear from her head.

- Master Combatant: Hela is immensely formidable and deadly warrioress in both armed and hand-to-hand combat, as she was the original owner of Mjølnir and the chief of the legion of Asgard as well as Odin's Executioner. Her skills are so tremendous that she easily managed to singlehandedly slay the entire Einherjar army of Asgard, as well as swiftly slay all of the Warriors Three whom were among the greatest warriors of Asgard. Indeed, Hela's combat skills are superior to even Valkyrie and Thor immensely skilled and powerful Asgardian warriors in their own right, with her notably able to battle both of them simultaneously, and beat Thor into submission in two of their three battles, even gouging out Thor's right eye with her Necrosword, as well as easily defeating Valkyrie in battle while she single-handedly slaughtered the Valkyries. While a fully-powered Thor (after receiving guidance from Odin's spirit) was able to almost match her to a stalemate, Hela still proved herself too much for him.

- Eternal Flame: Hela, as the self-proclaimed "Goddess of Death", demonstrated being able to resurrect her allies, using a handful of flame from the Eternal Flame and tossing it against the ground to create a huge blast of green infernal energy. As such, she was able to revive her pet wolf Fenris and her Berserkers after discovering their corpses under Odin's Vault.


THANOS

- Superhuman Strength: Thanos's has displayed incalculably vast levels of superhuman strength, as he is able to wield all six Infinity Stones and the Infinity Gauntlet simultaneously without suffering any strain, which makes Thanos among the strongest beings in the universe. With his strength, Thanos instantly broke out of Groot's vines, sent Drax flying with a kick through stones, destroyed Doctor Strange's Eldritch Magic shield with a kick, effortlessly broke out of Spider-Man's web and used it to pull Spider Man to him as well, as casually pinned down Spider-Man himself with a single hand, easily strangled Loki without the latter being able to break free and snapped his neck with one hand and quickly overpowered and badly injured Iron Man (tearing apart the latter's Mark L nanotech armor and breaking his sword with one hand). Even the combined efforts of Doctor Strange's use of Eldritch Whips to bind Thanos' hand, Spider-Man webbing up his body, Star-Lord using the bottom barell of his blasters to emit streams of electricity, and Drax holding his leg were barely capable of holding Thanos in place long enough for Iron Man to get a grip on his gauntlet and Mantis to put him to sleep, with even then Iron Man and Spider-Man being unable to pull the gauntlet off his arm, due to Star-Lord pausing a few moments too long. While restrained by countless of Eldritch Whips, courtesy of Doctor Strange conjuring thousands of replicas, Thanos was able to still clench the Infinity Gauntlet to break free. Most impressively of all, Thanos was able to quickly rip the Mind Stone out of Vision's extremely durable vibranium forehead, to easily break out from the grip of the immensely strong Hulk and then effortlessly overpower and beat Hulk to a bloody pulp within seconds.

- Superhuman Durability: Thanos has incalculably vast levels of supernatural resilience and durability, rendering him capable of easily handling the Infinity Stones with the Infinity Gauntlet without any strain or harm done to himself, even surviving the power of all six without harm, something that few who have attempted have ever survived. Thanos's durability also allowed him to barely flinch when simultaneously hit in the back by Star-Lord's blasters and slashed in the leg by Drax's knives, later even withstanding Star-Lord's shots without being fazed, to remain completely unfazed by shots from the Winter Soldier, to effortlessly shrug off punches from Spider-Man, to sustain only a slight cut on his face after repeated full-power blows from Iron Man's Mark L armor, to withstand the full force of getting hit by the Milano ship, to withstand full-power energy blasts from Scarlet Witch, and even to be barely fazed by blows from Hulk. Thanos's durability is great enough that it took an attack from Thor wielding Stormbreaker, a weapon so powerful that it was considered the most powerful in Asgard, to finally wound and harm him when the blade got lodged directly in his chest, Thanos retained enough strength to activate and use the Infinity Gauntlet at the scale needed to wipe out half of the universe, surviving such vast display of power despite the severe injury, although it did cause him to briefly entered a catatonic state.

- Superhuman Reflexes: Thanos, despite his size, possess extremely enhanced reflexes, as he was able to easily dodge a few blows from Hulk, and then instantly struck him multiple times before Hulk had a chance to respond. Thanos also easily reacted to Loki's swift attempt to kill him, effortlessly choking Loki to death before the latter could react. With just a single hand, Thanos was able to easily grab Gamora before she could strike him with Godslayer (which Thanos broke in the process), and to even react to the extremely agile Spider-Man's attacks, eventually getting a grip on him and pinning Spider-Man down. He also was able to easily catch Iron Man Mark L Armor's sword and then break it and stab him with the piece before he could react.

- Superhuman Speed: Thanos, despite his large and muscular body, is exceptionally fast, capable of easily outmaneuvering and beating the Hulk in hand-to-hand combat within seconds as well as swiftly pummeling Iron Man in his Mark L Armor in close quarters combat.

- Armor: Thanos utilized a Golden Armor while he was searching for the Infinity Stones. The Armor was resilient enough to resist damage from Hulk's blows. He discarded the Armor upon requiring the Space Stone from Loki.

- Power Stone: After Thanos inserts it into the Infinity Gauntlet, it is shown that the Power Stone's capabilities are not limited to just simply projecting energy and those who have full understanding and mastery over the Stone's powers are capable of using the Power Stone to achieve more diverse capabilities, as Thanos shows that with his strong understanding and mastery of the Power Stone, he is capable of manipulating the Stone's destructive energy for a wide plethora of versatile and dangerous capabilities, with the Stone becoming among his most versatile and often-used in combat methods for its destructive potential.

- Master Combatant: Thanos is among the most powerful warriors in the universe, with millennia worth of fighting experience. Thanos's pheneomonal combat skills supplemented by his colossal physical prowess allow him to easily fight off both Doctor Strange using a sword made of Eldritch Magic, and Drax with his knives and eventually quickly push them back (while his right eye was blinded by a web cotton), to easily fight off and swiftly pummel Spider-Man with only one hand (while his other hand was restricted by the Cloak of Levitation), and to easily defeat and grievously wound Iron Man (despite Iron Man's nanotech Mark L armor and sword), with only Doctor Strange's intervention saving Iron Man from death. Additionally, Thanos easily countered Black Panther's charge by choking him with a single hand and then pummeled him to the ground with a single punch. Most impressively, Thanos was even able to defeat and beat Hulk (the former champion of the Grandmaster's Contest of Champions) to a bloody pulp with ease.

- Master Tactician: Thanos is among the greatest master strategists and tacticians in the universe with centuries of experience in tactical warfare. Thanos's tactical genius and ingenuity allows him to create extremely complex and well-coordinated plans and execute them effectively. Thanos's strategical intuition also allows him to accurately predict incoming events and effectively manipulate said events to his advantage, as he was able to anticipate the Guardians going to Knowhere to retrieve the Reality Stone and arrived there before they could prevent him from taking it. Thanos even went as far as to set up a brilliant trap for the Guardians by casting an illusion to fool them into believing that he is still torturing the Collector.

*****Below is the list of power tiers to choose from. Please select a power tier for each character doing battle (the characters below in Red are not in any particular order). Be aware both characters can share the same power tier*****

The character's current statuses below are as follows

BLUE CHARACTERS = OFFICIAL FINAL PLACEMENT FOR CHARACTERS
GREEN CHARACTERS = OFFICIAL TRANSITIONAL PLACMENT FOR CHARACTERS FIGHTING UP THE TIER LIST
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RED CHARACTERS = UNOFFICIAL SPECULATIVE PLACEMENT FOR CHARACTERS

*****NOTE: Characters that are OFFICIAL will always be Placed above characters that are UNOFFICIAL.*****


Cosmic Tier (cosmic/interdimension level power/presence on a planetary scale, at the minimum)
Dormammu
Eson The Searcher with Infinity Stone
Surtur Prime
Ego The Living Planet
Odin
Doctor Strange (w/ Time Gem)
Thanos (w/ Filled Infinity Gauntlet)

Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale?)
Ronan with the Power Stone
Kurse
Fenris
Ultron Prime (Vibranium)


Powerhouse Tier (Beyond top tier, power/interdimensional power on a block to city Level)
Thor
Vision
Hulk
Doctor Strange
Ghost Rider
Ebony Maw
Scarlet Witch
Hulkbuster Iron Man
Abomination
Pre-Eternal Flame Surtur
Malekith (W/ reality gem)
Ancient One
The Destroyer Armor
Giant Man
Kaecilius
Cull Obsidian

Top Tier (Street to block level?)
Valkyrie
Iron Man
Aldrich Killian
Drax the Destroyer
Ronan
Loki
Iron Monger
Whiplash
War Machine
Quake
Malekith
Heimdall
Sif
Hogun
Fandral
Volstagg
Korath The Pursuer
Groot
Killgrave
Yondu
Lash
Hive
Frigga
Pepper Potts with Extremis
Mantis
Skurge
Korg
Baron Mordo
Master Wong
Corvus Glaive

Superhuman Tier (Street Level)
Black Panther
Captain America
Starlord
Gamora
Spiderman
Winter Soldier
Vulture
Red Skull
Crossbones
Falcon
Quicksilver
Iron Fist
Luke Cage
Jessica Jones
Eric Savin (Extremis Soldier)
Ellen Brandt (Extremis Soldier)
Emil Blonsky (Super Soldier)
Madame Gao
Mr. Hyde
Slingshot
Aida
Raina
Deathlok
The Patriot
Carl Creed the Absorbing Man
Lorelei
Nebula
Miek
Ant Man
Yellow Jacket
Proxima Midnight
Erik Killmonger
Ulysses Klaue

Street Tier (non super human, agent level)
Daredevil
Black Widow
Rocket Racoon
Hawkeye
Elektra
Punisher
Coleen Wing
Batroc the Leaper
Shocker
Kingpin
Nobu
Diamondback
Bakuto
Peggy Carter
Sharon Carter Agent 13
Dum Dum Dugan
Mocking Bird
Maria Hill
Misty Knight
The Punisher
Nick Fury
Phil Coulson
Zemo
Jig Saw
M'Baku
Okoye
Shuri
 
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Tough one. I'll give the edge to Hela.
 
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My bet's on Hela. She's faster, more ruthless and if her weapons can overwhelm Thor's ridiculous durability (even when she was only toying with him) and impale Surtur Prime then she should be able to cut Thanos to pieces if she goes all out. She's strong enough to easily overpower Thor and to casually crush Mjolnir one handed so this is one fight where Thanos doesn't have a strength advantage. And if she is hit she has a healing factor/ought to be at least as durable as Thor (who has the best durability feats in the MCU).

With immediate, full force use of the power gem Thanos would definitely have a chance but that's out of character for Thanos and Hela knows about the stones so she'll try to dodge with a good chance of succeeding.
 
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Thör-El;36695491 said:
She has a healing factor/ought to be at least as durable as Thor (who has the best durability feats in the MCU).

Yep Hela's at or above Thor's durability level but with a much better healing factor, even above live action Wolverine's.
 
Thör-El;36695491 said:
My bet's on Hela. She's faster, more ruthless and if her weapons can overwhelm Thor's ridiculous durability (even when she was only toying with him) and impale Surtur Prime then she should be able to cut Thanos to pieces if she goes all out. She's strong enough to easily overpower Thor and to casually crush Mjolnir one handed so this is one fight where Thanos doesn't have a strength advantage. And if she is hit she has a healing factor/ought to be at least as durable as Thor (who has the best durability feats in the MCU).

With immediate, full force use of the power gem Thanos would definitely have a chance but that's out of character for Thanos and Hela knows about the stones so she'll try to dodge with a good chance of succeeding.

Thanos' resistance to edged weapons and stabbing attacks is the key.

While the impacts of the Hulk's punches didn't faze him, Thor nearly eviscerated him with Stormbreaker.
If Hela put a couple of swords through various parts of his body before putting one through his brain, he's done.

The power stone didn't disintigrate Thor on contact, so Hela could resist its power to some degree.

I think Hela could take this one. Give Thanos another stone or two and its a different story.
 
Hela for the win.


Thanos is vulnerable to piercing weapons and that is tailor made for Hela. Plus like others have said if Star Lord can hold it, Tony's suit can absorb direct blasts from it I think Hela could at the very least endure the power stone long enough to critically injure Thanos.
 
Thor seemed to last longer against Hela than Thanos, so vote goes to Thanos.
 
Thor seemed to last longer against Hela than Thanos, so vote goes to Thanos.

Their fight was off-screen so I don't know how you reach that conclusion. We can only speculate whether Thor was able to use his lightning inside the spaceship full of refugees, whether Thanos had backup from the Black Order or took Thor by surprise and how long it lasted. To be fair to Thanos we also have no idea whether he used the power stone.
 
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Thör-El;36696361 said:
Their fight was off-screen, we have no idea whether Thor was able to use his lightning inside the spaceship full of refugees, whether Thanos had backup from the Black Order or took Thor by surprise or how long it lasted. To be fair to Thanos we also have no idea whether he used the power stone.

Yup, but I do know that Thor was basically limp and unable to defend himself after. So the beating he took had to be epic.
 
Not to mention that if Thanos wanted to kill Thor in that instance he could have. Hela tried to kill Thor in combat and failed, twice. Have to go with Thanos here.
 
Not to mention that if Thanos wanted to kill Thor in that instance he could have. Hela tried to kill Thor in combat and failed, twice. Have to go with Thanos here.

Darren Till.
 
Not to mention that if Thanos wanted to kill Thor in that instance he could have. Hela tried to kill Thor in combat and failed, twice. Have to go with Thanos here.

Hela spent the throne room fight toying with Thor, repeatedly overpowering him and took his eye out to make a point then dragged him over to make him watch the refugees attacked by her army. If she'd been aiming for a quick kill he'd have died.

Even when he was in full lightning God mode on the bifrost bridge and had Valkyrie for backup Hela just had to fight more seriously and she soon had them both overwhelmed without taking any damage. The best Thor could manage was to stall her and set Surtur up to kill her.

Thanos on the other hand beat Thor off-screen. Personally I suspect Thor was handicapped in that fight since he was taken by surprise and distracted trying to defend his people and likely couldn't summon his lightning inside the spaceship full of refugees. Thanos on the other hand had backup and the power stone.
 
Let us also not forget Thanos has been referred to as the most powerful being in the galaxy. He also can weild all the stones and not die. Hela I doubt can.
 
Let us also not forget Thanos has been referred to as the most powerful being in the galaxy. He also can weild all the stones and not die. Hela I doubt can.

That's true but he was called that by one of Ronan's lieutenants who didn't know about Hela (or Ego or Surtur). Plus that line can be taken as referring to Thanos' armies.

If Hela had a gauntlet designed specifically to allow her to survive wielding them I'm pretty sure she could. Plus, the power gem is the only one we've seen is dangerous to the wielder and we never see Thanos handling it without the gauntlet.
 
Thanos has taken the lead, we haven't had a good close battle in awhile so this is refreshing.
 
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Hela easily. she has those blades that move at high speeds that can dice & mince him in seconds. She's way too fast for him too. I can see her dodging nearly all his attacks.
 
I had no strong opinions on this one way or the other, so I decided to base my vote entirely on the arguments already presented here. On that criteria, I give the edge to Hela.
 
Depends on the location. Her power keeps growing on Asgard. Thanos will have to beat her quickly but I don't think he could do it because they're probably evenly matched.
 
Depends on the location. Her power keeps growing on Asgard. Thanos will have to beat her quickly but I don't think he could do it because they're probably evenly matched.

So who are you going to vote for?
 
Let us also not forget Thanos has been referred to as the most powerful being in the galaxy. He also can weild all the stones and not die. Hela I doubt can.

Yeah,this a big one. As EM mentions also, Thanos is he first being to ever weild more than one infinity stone at once. And that was just when he had 2.

I also think Thor would have done much better against Hela if he had Storm breaker.
 
Darren Till.

Huh?

Thör-El;36697645 said:
Hela spent the throne room fight toying with Thor, repeatedly overpowering him and took his eye out to make a point then dragged him over to make him watch the refugees attacked by her army. If she'd been aiming for a quick kill he'd have died.

Even when he was in full lightning God mode on the bifrost bridge and had Valkyrie for backup Hela just had to fight more seriously and she soon had them both overwhelmed without taking any damage. The best Thor could manage was to stall her and set Surtur up to kill her.

Thanos on the other hand beat Thor off-screen. Personally I suspect Thor was handicapped in that fight since he was taken by surprise and distracted trying to defend his people and likely couldn't summon his lightning inside the spaceship full of refugees. Thanos on the other hand had backup and the power stone.

Thor wasn't taken by surprise in the ship fight as we saw him watch the ship arriving in the after credits scene of Ragnorak. Fair enough he may not have been able to summon his lightning. But I don't see the lightning having much effect on someone who can wield six Infinity Stones. Hulk was taking Thor's lightning attacks so Thanos probably could and then some.
 
Let us also not forget even with Lightning, Thor vs Hulk was a fight. That was like, a legit heavyweight fight that went back and forth. Thanos TRASHED the Hulk. With ease. I don't think Thor having lightning would have done much for him in this case.
 
Let us also not forget even with Lightning, Thor vs Hulk was a fight. That was like, a legit heavyweight fight that went back and forth. Thanos TRASHED the Hulk. With ease. I don't think Thor having lightning would have done much for him in this case.

Yep, agreed
 
Let us also not forget even with Lightning, Thor vs Hulk was a fight. That was like, a legit heavyweight fight that went back and forth. Thanos TRASHED the Hulk. With ease. I don't think Thor having lightning would have done much for him in this case.

It was a back and forth fight before the lightning, but from the point the lightning came out it was only Thor hurting Hulk, until he was incapacitated by the Grandmaster.

With the Statesman fight it's also pretty likely that Thanos and his children ganged up on people. When Hulk attacks and Maw says "let him have his fun" it kind of sounds like it's the first one on one fight for Thanos.

Thanos incapacitated Hulk quickly and easily though, and while Hulk looked like the rage was going out of him after the second lightning blow from Thor on Sakaar he was still on his feet with his hands up and able to fight. Thanos is clearly more powerful than Thor (which I think goes for the end of Ragnarok as well, when he gets more control over that power), as he should be.

The fight between Thanos and Hela is a bit tough to judge though, much due to how Hela doesn't seem to be injured by anything. The only time she looks like she was hurt is when she looks unconscious in the fall after Thor hit her with the super lightning blast, but she's still fine when she comes walking a couple of minutes later.

I'll still probably go with Thanos since he's incredibly powerful and he has the Power Stone which he didn't utilize to it's full power in IW.
 

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