MCU Fight: Iron man vs Pre-Eternal Flame Surtur

[jaqua99]

We will be doing VS. battles for the MCU every week and will be using the Winners and Losers to create an accurate power tier list created by some of it's biggest fans (you). So don't forget to VOTE and after voting for a Winner please include a comment on which power tier, both the Winner and Loser should reside within. Also, see below for more details on the characters abilities as well as for a list of available power tiers to choose from.

Don't forget to put which Tier group you think Iron Man and Valkyrie belong to in your posts.

So, without further delay here is this week's match up.


Iron Man Vs Pre-Eternal Flame Surtur

Iron Man

Flight: One of the armor's most important features is its propulsion system and subsequent ability of flight. The armor can reach speeds as high as Mach 3 in moments. It also has variable control surfaces for active flight control by J.A.R.V.I.S. to automatically stabilize the armor in flight. The armor is able to fly at speeds more than 1500 miles per hour.

Superhuman Strength: When inside the armor, it amplifies the user's physical strength, allowing Iron Man to lift in excess of 60 tons. Most armors are strong enough to lift and bench press tanks, S.H.I.E.L.D. transporters or cars. Iron Man was also able to fight Ultron's second robotic body, and, when his strength was temporarily boosted by Mjølnir's lightning (increasing his suit's power to over 400% capacity), Iron Man was able to hold his own against the mighty Asgardian Thor himself. A unique feat of strength was when Tony pushed and jumpstarted one of the rotors of the S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarrier while in the Mark VI.

Superhuman Durability: The armor is made up of a strong light weight Titanium Alloy, with interlocked plates for the shell, and a chest plate protecting the Arc Reactor. The armor can withstand tank shells exploded in close proximity to Stark, and a resulting fall from several thousand feet up, followed by hits by 20mm Vulcan shells and a high speed collision with a F-22 Raptor with only minimal cosmetic damage. It was able to survive having several cars dropped on top of him by Scarlet Witch, all of which resulted in taking relatively minor damage. It even allows him to withstand some of Thor's attacks, although Thor proved he could crush the suit's gauntlet frame with his strength.

Advanced Combat Analysis: The Mark XLVI armor and component artificial intelligence F.R.I.D.A.Y. have the ability to analyze people's specific fighting patterns, and in turn, find a counter to said fighting style. When Stark proved unable to defeat Captain America in hand to hand combat, he had F.R.I.D.A.Y. analyze the pattern of Rogers' moves and find the openings. Once she had done so, Stark beat Rogers down in a matter of seconds, and while Rogers was still ultimately able to win, it was mainly due to a last second distraction.

Repulsors: Particle weapons in the palm gauntlets that shoot beams or blasts of concussive and explosive force, allowing them to can repel physical and energy-based attacks. Early repulsors needed time to recharge after use, but, because of the new Arc Reactor, they are able to fire at a moment's notice. The repulsors show to be strong enough to kill regular humans with one strike, destroy most stone and metal objects with ease, and destroy unmanned battle drones. When the suit is charged with additional power, the repulsors are powerful enough to stun even a superhuman with sufficient durability like Thor. It also enabled him to stun Loki on two occasions and take down numerous Chitauri foot soldiers and airships with ease.

Unibeam: A more powerful version of the repulsor beams. It is located in the chest. However, it requires more power from the Arc Reactor to use and cannot be used as often. He used a blast through the chest to kill Extremis-enhanced Eric Savin after the many times Savin had taken several shots from his repulsor blasts. Indeed, the Unibeam is also powerful enough to disintegrate the Winter Soldier's prosthetic arm.

Lasers: A powerful weapon in the gauntlet wrists that can cut through any common metal. However, it is not strong enough to penetrate a Leviathan's shell. It has been shown to be very proficient against the Hammer Drones but Stark stated it only had a one-time use. It has been improved and has been used on several occasions in later models. They draw power from the Arc Reactor for more sustained operations, and can theoretically reduce the armor energy reserves to a drained state if operated indefinitely.

Smart Mini-guns: Small anti-personnel guns in the shoulders that can target individual targets at once and fire at a moment's notice. It's proved to be highly effective against unarmored foot soldiers. They could be used to incapacitate rather than killing, allowing them to be used to incapacitate HYDRA agents during the assault on Baron Wolfgang von Strucker's research base in Sokovia.

Tank-Missile: Among the most proficient of the armor's weapon system are the missiles which he first used against a tank sent by the Ten Rings. The armor holds a multi-fire adhesive grenade launcher in the upper arm. It includes Anti-Tank, Armor-Piercing rounds. In later models, the armor has mini-rockets hidden in a secret compartment in the boosters on the back, that blew up numerous Chitauri ships. Stark was able to destroy a Leviathan by flying into its mouth and launching them throughout its body with missiles in compartments in his knees. He was able to use a missile hit by a repulsor to take down an attacker.


Pre-Eternal Flame Surtur

Fire Demon Physiology: As a Fire Giant, Surtur is indeed magical in nature. Given how his essence traveled into is skull, and how he was unable to die, even after being defeated by Odin “half a million years ago”, Su

Fire Manipulation: As a Fire Giant, Surtur can generate massive waves of fire from his Twilight Sword to engulf his targets in flames.

Superhuman Strength: Surtur's original level of strength was already great enough to match, if not surpass, that of Thor.

Superhuman Durability: Surtur's original level of durabillity is already great enough to withstand blows from Thor using Mjolnir

Longevity: Surtur’s age is unknown, however it was believed by Thor that Odin killed Surtur “half a million years ago”. While this may be hyperbole, Surtur is evidentially older than Odin, and while defeated, he seemingly is unable to truly die until he destroys Asgard.


*****Below is the list of power tiers to choose from. Please select a power tier for each character doing battle (the characters below in Red are not in any particular order). Be aware both characters can share the same power tier*****

The character's current statuses below are as follows

BLUE CHARACTERS = OFFICIAL FINAL PLACEMENT FOR CHARACTERS
GREEN CHARACTERS = OFFICIAL TRANSITIONAL PLACMENT FOR CHARACTERS FIGHTING UP THE TIER LIST
ORANGE CHARACTERS = OFFICIAL TRANSITIONAL PLACMENT FOR CHARACTERS FIGHTING DOWN THE TIER LIST
RED CHARACTERS = UNOFFICIAL SPECULATIVE PLACEMENT FOR CHARACTERS

*****NOTE: Characters that are OFFICIAL will always be Placed above characters that are UNOFFICIAL.*****


Cosmic Tier (cosmic/interdimension level power/presence on a planetary scale, at the minimum)

Dormammu

Eson The Searcher with Infinity Stone

Surtur Prime

Ego The Living Planet

Odin

Doctor Strange (w/ time gem)


Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale)]

Hela

Ronan with the Power Stone

Kurse

Fenris

Ultron Prime (Vibranium)

Thanos





Powerhouse Tier (Beyond top tier, power/interdimensional power on a block to city Level)

Thor

Hulk

Ghost Rider

Hulk Buster Iron Man

Abomination

Doctor Strange

Malekith (W/ reality gem)

Ancient One

Vision

The Destroyer Armor

Giant Man

Kaecilius


Top Tier (Street to block level)

Aldrich Killian

Valkyrie

Drax the Destroyer

Ronan

Loki

Iron Monger

Scarlet Witch

Whiplash

War Machine

Quake

Malekith

Heimdall

Sif

Hogun

Fandral

Volstagg

Korath The Pursuer

Groot

Killgrave

Yondu

Lash

Hive

Frigga

Pepper Potts with Extremis

Mantis

Skurge

Korg

Baron Mordo

Master Wong


Superhuman Tier (Street Level)
Black Panther

Captain America

Gamora

Spiderman

Winter Soldier

Vulture

Red Skull

Crossbones

Falcon

Quicksilver

Starlord

Iron Fist

Luke Cage

Jessica Jones

Eric Savin (Extremis Soldier)

Ellen Brandt (Extremis Soldier)

Emil Blonsky (Super Soldier)

Madame Gao

Mr. Hyde

Slingshot

Aida

Raina

Deathlok

The Patriot

Carl Creed the Absorbing Man

Lorelei

Nebula

Miek

Ant Man

Yellow Jacket


Street Tier (non super human, agent level)

Daredevil

Black Widow

Rocket Racoon

Hawkeye

Elektra

Punisher

Coleen Wing

Batroc the Leaper

Shocker

Kingpin

Nobu

Diamondback

Bakuto

Peggy Carter

Sharon Carter Agent 13

Dum Dum Dugan

Mocking Bird

Maria Hill

Misty Knight

The Punisher

Nick Fury

Phil Coulson

Zemo
*****As I mentioned earlier, as fights occur an official tier list will be created and updated by me and that can be viewed here.*****

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=535009

So enjoy and we are looking forward to the results. Spread the word.

 

[Solaire]

Gonna have to say Surtur, think he’s out of Tony’s league.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Surtur is way too powerful, even without the Eternal Flame.

 

[Batmannerism]

Don't think Sony's armour would stand up to Surtur's flame for long. Also Surtur has a mean posse of fire demons and a dragon . Sorry Tony I think this ones too much for you......unless Tony gets prep time to build a specific anti Surtur weapons, then the big guy gets snuffed.

 

[jolldan]

Very tough one to pick again, Im swaying toward Iron Man for the a couple reasons.

1. Firstly Surtur seems very cumbersome and slow moving.

2. Pre-Eternal flame Surtur didn't actually seem very skilled in battle even with that big sword. The bulk of fighting Thor had to do against were against his minions and his dragon and who's to say Surtur would even have access to them in this battle? We never said the fight was taking place on his home turf.

3. Surtur is defeated by separating the crown from his head. So I would say Tony has an advantage in a couple repulsor blasts and a well placed shot with an anti tank missile could potentially win this for him.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Surtur wins this. I actually think Surtur is a tier higher than Iron Man. Even without the eternal flame.

 

[Iceman]

Very tough one to pick again, Im swaying toward Iron Man for the a couple reasons.

1. Firstly Surtur seems very cumbersome and slow moving.

2. Pre-Eternal flame Surtur didn't actually seem very skilled in battle even with that big sword. The bulk of fighting Thor had to do against were against his minions and his dragon and who's to say Surtur would even have access to them in this battle? We never said the fight was taking place on his home turf.

3. Surtur is defeated by separating the crown from his head. So I would say Tony has an advantage in a couple repulsor blasts and a well placed shot with an anti tank missile could potentially win this for him.

I think if Surtur hits Iron Man in anyway (including his fiery breath which is harder to avoid and easier to aim) it's pretty much over and the above also assumes Stark knows Surtur's weakness (which even Thor didn't till it was explained to him). I was going to vote Surtur without question but some great points above that made me think twice

 

[DrCosmic]

Surtur is transcendent tier and Iron Man is Powerhouse Tier. There's no real fight here, imho, just a fly eventually getting swatted.

 

[Web-Head]

Surtur

 

[Pennywise]

Surtur would destroy Iron Man!

 

[NHawk19]

Surtur cooks him in the suit. Tony only wins this if he's got some specific weapon to fight him like Liquid Nitrogen or something.

 

[jaqua99]

Wow okay. So Surtur clearly isnt in the top tier.

Given his defeat by Thor, he isnt in the transcendent tier.

So do you guys think this version of Surtur belongs in the powerhouse tier?

 

[Iron_Stark]

What are these, lets find as many characters that can kick Iron Man's ass and vote on them?

Of course Surtur wins.

 

[jaqua99]

What are these, lets find as many characters that can kick Iron Man's ass and vote on them?

Of course Surtur wins.

Valkerie and he is a good battle.

This is pre eternal flame Surtur. The one Thor beat easily.

I thought this was a competitive battle but I guess not

 

[metaphysician]

Surtur should take this. Yes, he lost to Thor. In a straight fight with Thor not holding back or taking it easy on a friend, Iron Man would do much, much worse. Note that Thor actually did have to shield himself from Surtur's attacks, with some degree of effort and stress, and he didn't exactly one-hit Surtur. He kind of thwacked the crap out of him, and only then delivered a final blow to remove the crown.

Put simply, Tony doesn't have a functionally-indestructible barrier, and he doesn't hit nearly as hard as Mjolnir.

 

[BigThor]

Surtur is transcendent tier and Iron Man is Powerhouse Tier. There's no real fight here, imho, just a fly eventually getting swatted.

Iron Man is Top Tier not Powerhouse Tier

Also this Pre Eternal Flame Surtur from the beginning of Ragnarok not Surtur Prime from the end of the film who is fully powered.

 

[Fosterson]

Surtur. He was able to withstand multiple hits from Mjolnir and his fire was hot enough to worry Thor.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Valkerie and he is a good battle.

This is pre eternal flame Surtur. The one Thor beat easily.

I thought this was a competitive battle but I guess not

Surtur also told Thor how to beat him and Thor wasn't holding back. No part of me thinks in his fight with Iron Man he was going all out, and he was still winning. I just see Surtur only really needing 1 good hit and this is over. I would say even pre-Eternal flame, Surtur and Thor are same tier (just Thor higher on the tier). Iron Man is just out of his depth.

 

[ernesth100]

I'm pretty sure Iron Man could do it with the right strategy and his current suit upgrade. It'd be no problem. A Unibeam to the head and the job is done.

 

[BigThor]

I'm pretty sure Iron Man could do it with the right strategy and his current suit upgrade. It'd be no problem. A Unibeam to the head and the job is done.

I wouldn't depend on MCU Iron Man to use a unibeam, he doesn't use it very much.

Besides he doesn't know Surtur's crown is the source of his power, oh and MCU Iron Man hardly ever aims for the head.

 

[ernesth100]

I wouldn't depend on MCU Iron Man to use a unibeam, he doesn't use it very much.

Besides he doesn't know Surtur's crown is the source of his power, oh and MCU Iron Man hardly ever aims for the head.

Good point.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Surtur would melt Tony's armor and turn him into a small smoking pile of ash.

 

[Thör-El]

Surtur with no eternal flame's an odd one. Going by comics Tony gets curbstomped. Even within the MCU Surtur's place storywise as a weakened but cosmic being make it seem like he ought to be out of Iron Man's league.

Feat wise though, he's in a strange tier alongside the Destroyer. Two characters who are supposed to be powerful but whose only showings involve dying within a minute to Thor when he was going all out. That doesn't tell us much though, I don't think Tony would last long if Thor wanted him dead.

 

[jaqua99]

Surtur also told Thor how to beat him and Thor wasn't holding back. No part of me thinks in his fight with Iron Man he was going all out, and he was still winning. I just see Surtur only really needing 1 good hit and this is over. I would say even pre-Eternal flame, Surtur and Thor are same tier (just Thor higher on the tier). Iron Man is just out of his depth.

How badass is it that a weakened depowered Surtur is on Hulk and Thor's tier? haha

 

[BigThor]

How badass is it that a weakened depowered Surtur is on Hulk and Thor's tier? haha

Very badass.