MCU Fight: Thor Vs. Captain Marvel (Rematch)

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MCU Fight: Thor Vs. Captain Marvel (Rematch)

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  1. Thor

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  1. BigThor

    BigThor God of Thunder

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    We will be doing VS. battles for the MCU every week and will be using the Winners and Losers to create an accurate power tier list created by some of it's biggest fans (you). So don't forget to VOTE and after voting for a Winner please include a comment on which power tier, both the Winner and Loser should reside within. Also, see below for more details on the characters abilities as well as for a list of available power tiers to choose from.

    Don't forget to put which Tier group you think Thor and Captain Marvel belong to in your posts. Also, don't forget I've now added the option of being able to change your vote if you change your mind. :up:


    So, without further delay here is this week's match up

    THOR

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    CAPTAIN MARVEL

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    THOR

    - Superhuman Strength: As an Asgardian, specifically the son of Odin, Thor is the third strongest Asgardian of his time, surpassed only by Odin and Hela, and with their deaths, he is now the strongest Asgardian alive. After receiving visions from Odin's spirit, Thor's strength and fighting skill combined with his newfound ability to generate lightning quickly gave Thor to compete against the angered Hulk, generating a shock-wave with his punch that visibly dazed the Hulk. He was also able to easily swing around Rocket Raccoon's Milano escape pod at great speeds, and even hold open the massive forge of a Nidavellir star long enough for Eitri to heat the metal, as well as throw Stormbreaker with enough force that combined with his electrical powers, it was able to slice through a beam from the completed Infinity Gauntlet, and lodge deep into Thanos's chest.

    - Superhuman Durability: Thor's skin, muscle, and bone tissue have many times the density of the same tissue in the body of a human being and is nigh-invulnerable, much more so than regular Asgardians to the point that Gamora claimed that Thor's muscles felt as if they were "made of Cotati metal fibers". Thor's durability even allowed him to survive the full force of a re-ignited Nidavellir star, though it leaves his body severely charred and knocks him unconscious and he was close to death and would have died had Stormbreaker not healed him. Thor's physical constitution is so strong he was even remain conscious after having Thanos repeatedly press the force of the Power Stone against his head, which if touched by beings less powerful would instantly obliterate them.

    - Stormbreaker: Thor's newly forged maul Stormbreaker is able to focus and hone Thor's powers, acting as a conduit. The weapon, due to being made out of Uru, is nigh-indestructible and able to withstand energy blasts created by the Infinity Stones, even wounding Thanos. The only reason it failed to kill Thanos was because Thor intentionally delayed the killing blow, a catastrophic mistake unrelated to the weapon's abilities. Stormbreaker is able to summon the Bifrost Bridge, even after the bridge's apparent destruction, shown when Thor teleported himself, Rocket Raccoon and Groot to Wakanda instantly. The weapon, like Mjølnir before it, will return to Thor's hand when he opens it and strikes his opponents with massive force.

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    Regenerative Healing Factor: Despite his astounding resistance to injury, it is still possible to injure Thor. However, due to his Asgardian physiology, Thor is able to heal at a rate significiantly faster than a normal human and even much faster than most Asgardians. While fighting Hela, Thor was painfully pierced multiple times by her Necroswords, getting his right eye gouged out in the process, and while Thor was unable to regenerate his eye, he recovered from all of the stabs mere minutes later, despite the Warriors Three all perishing from a single stab from Hela each. After suffering a beating from Thanos and getting burned by the Power Stone, Thor managed to recover rapidly afterwards. Later, Thor survived the full force of a re-ignited Nidavellir star, though it left his body charred and near death, Thor was completely healed after receiving Stormbreaker to harness and amplify his supernatural powers.

    - Superhuman Speed: Thor can move at great superhuman speeds. Thor tackled Hulk through the wall of a Helicarrier in a split second, visibly appearing as a blur. He also proves capable of overwhelming the Hulk in hand-to-hand combat during their second fight, able to easily dodge his feral attacks and land his own blows and get a grip on him. In battle, while holding back, he is easily fast enough to contend with the extremely fast Loki in combat and although his adopted brother is capable of outmanuevering him when he is holding back, when Thor unleashed his rage, he was able to easily catch Loki off-guard, disarm him of his sceptre.

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    Superhuman Reflexes: Thor can react and dodge objects traveling at high speeds, with him dodging many of Hulk's blows during the Contest of Champions and he was able to blast away swords thrown by Hela as soon as they were sent sent flying towards him.

    - Superhuman Stamina: Thor's advanced musculature is considerably more efficient than that of a human and most other Asgardians. As a result, his muscles produce practically no fatigue toxins during physical activity compared to those of humans and most other members of his race. His virtually inexhaustible stamina enables him to exert himself at peak capacity for an undefined period of time without tiring at all.

    - Superhuman Agility: Thor's agility, dexterity, balance, and bodily coordination make him a great warrior for battle. He moves with incredible grace and speed despite his considerable size and body density. He was able to dodge the wing of a jet fighter thrown at him by the Hulk, as well as dodging many of Hulk's hammer and battle-ax blows and outmaneuvering him in their second battle. He can easily keep up with Loki while holding back despite Loki's great agility in both their fights.

    - Longevity: Thor, like all other Asgardians, is not truly immortal. It is possible to kill an Asgardian and other beings in the Nine Realms. More accurately, Asgardians are extremely long-lived beings. Thor ages at a pace far slower than a normal human, as he claims to be 1,500 years old, since like Loki, he was born shortly before the last great war between the Asgardians and the Frost Giants.

    - Weather Manipulation: Thor was born with the power to control weather storms, with it being the reason he is called the "God of Thunder". Even before Thor unlocked his powers, he still displayed a level of control over weather, able to manipulate parts of it, although his focus always seemed to be somewhere else so whenever events of him displaying this power occurred his mind was elsewhere. Among them was when he was able to keep rain from touching Jane Foster as a downpour occurred as well as when he began to generate sparks of lightning from his hands after becoming furious. He began to unlock the full potential of his abilities during his encounter with Hela, and is now able to generate rather large storm clouds and create thunder.

    - Electricity Manipulation: Thor was born with the ability to generate, control and project electrical energy, with him thus being dubbed the "God of Thunder". Following Odin's death and visions from his father's spirit, Thor finally fully unlocked his electrical powers and his powers over lightning are enhanced to the point where he could generate incredible amounts of electrical energy from his own body and summon thunder and lightning from the sky, all without the use of Mjølnir. The greatest display of his electricity manipulation is when Thor charges Stormbreaker and throws it at Thanos. The charged weapon proved powerful enough to quickly slice through a beam fired from the completed Infinity Gauntlet and grievously injure Thanos in a single strike, with Thanos himself saying that Thor may have been able to kill him had he aimed for the head.

    - Flight: One of Thor's new abilities that he discovered after losing Mjølnir was how he was able to hover, glide, and fly through the air at great speeds without any outside help. He was able to grab onto the Hulk and lift him several feet in the air while they were fighting in the Contest of Champions. He also was able to hover across the Rainbow Bridge multiple times during his final encounter with his sister Hela. He was able to launch himself into the air from the Asgardian palace to the middle of the Bifrost within moments. During the Battle of Wakanda, Thor flew easily while using the Stormbreaker to destroy the ships of the Outriders and later while attacking Thanos.

    - Teleportation: After Thor gained his new devastating weapon, Stormbreaker, he was able to teleport at will, due to gaining the ability to manipulate the Bifrost Bridge. As a result, Thor instantly teleported himself, Rocket Raccoon and Groot to Wakanda, in order to aid his allies in battle against Thanos and the Black Order.


    CAPTAIN MARVEL

    - Superhuman Strength
    : Danvers possesses a considerable superhuman strength that allows her to overcome several other creatures of the universe, such as Humans, Skrulls and Kree with relative ease. She was also able to stop a Kree missile traveling at high speed and send it against other missiles so that they could not crash into the surface of the planet Earth, as well as cross several Kree ships with relative ease and destroy an extremely huge armored ship, tying it down completely, despite the tough metal with which it had been manufactured.

    - Superhuman Durability: Danvers' skin, muscles and bone tissue often have the density of the same tissue in the body of a human being, which makes them almost invulnerable. She withstood destroying missiles and Kree ships launched by Ronan without any effort and pass through an armored ship to destroy it and was left completely unharmed of the great explosion that was generated.

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    Superhuman Speed: Danvers can move at great superhuman speeds. She is able to overwhelm several Skrulls, including Talos, in hand-to-hand combat, was able to easily dodge their wild attacks and land their own blows while in control of them. While chasing a Skrull through the city of Los Angeles, Danvers was able to keep up with the speed of a train to finally get on top of it. She was also able to handle Starforce members in combat, easily dodging their attacks. Also, by combining her speed with her flight capacity, she can travel at the speed of light.

    - Superhuman Reflexes
    : Danvers can react and dodge objects that travel at high speeds, with her dodging many of the blows of the Skrulls and later the members of the Starforce with relative ease and almost effortlessly. Also, while flying, she was able to dodge the gunshots of the Kree warship.

    - Superhuman Agility
    : Danvers has greater agility, dexterity, balance and body coordination than a human being. During her training with Yon-Rogg, Danvers was able to do elaborate cartwheels and flying kicks against Yon-Rogg. She was also able to dodge many of the Skrulls' punches and overcome them in her second battle. She was able to easily keep up with and surpass the Starforce members, despite the great agility in combat shown by the latter.

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    Regenerative Healing Factor: Through her cosmic power and Kree blood, she heals faster than an average human.

    - Longevity: Due to her enhanced physiology, Danvers' lifespan has been augmented, greatly reducing her aging process if not making her biologically immortal. This allowed her to remain physically the same age since she first became enhanced.

    - Cosmic Energy Manipulation: By using this power, all of her costume, her eyes and her hair are surrounded by the cosmic energy that her body generates. This greatly increased Danvers' physical abilities and photon blasts abilities, and gave her the ability to fly at incredible speeds, which is what allowed her to defeat the entire Starforce, defeat, with a single shot of energy, Yon-Rogg, and destroy the ballistic missiles as well as almost all of Ronan's.


    *****Below is the list of power tiers to choose from. Please select a power tier for each character doing battle (the characters below in Red are not in any particular order). Be aware both characters can share the same power tier*****


    The character's current statuses below are as follows

    *****NOTE: Characters that are OFFICIAL will always be Placed above characters that are UNOFFICIAL.*****

    Cosmic Tier (cosmic/interdimension level power/presence on a planetary scale, at the minimum)
    Thanos (w/ Filled Infinity Gauntlet)
    Dormmamu
    Eson The Searcher with Infinity Stone
    Surtur Prime
    Ego The Living Planet
    Odin
    Doctor Strange (w/ Time Gem)

    Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale?)
    Hela
    Thanos (Base)
    Ronan with the Power Stone
    Kurse
    Surtur's Fire Dragon
    Fenris
    Ultron Prime (Vibranium)


    Powerhouse Tier (Beyond top tier, power/interdimensional power on a block to city Level)
    Doctor Strange
    Vision
    Malekith (W/ reality gem)
    Hulk
    Ghost Rider
    Ebony Maw
    Scarlet Witch
    Destroyer
    Hulkbuster Ironman
    Pre-Eternal Flame Surtur
    Abomination
    Cull Obsidian
    Iron Man
    Abilisk
    Jotunheim Beast
    Kronan
    Ancient One
    Giant Man
    Kaecilius

    Top Tier (Street to block level?)
    Ronan
    Valkyrie
    Hogun
    Aldrich Killian
    Loki
    Drax
    Heimdall
    War Machine
    Corvus Glaive
    Iron Monger
    Whiplash
    Quake
    Malekith
    Sif
    Fandral
    Volstagg
    Korath The Pursuer
    Groot
    Killgrave
    Yondu
    Lash
    Hive
    Frigga
    Pepper Potts with Extremis
    Mantis
    Skurge
    Korg
    Baron Mordo
    Master Wong
    Corvus Glaive

    Superhuman Tier (Street Level)
    Black Panther
    Captain America
    Spider-Man
    Gamora
    Star-Lord
    Vulture
    Falcon
    Winter Soldier
    Luke Cage
    Red Skull
    Crossbones
    Quicksilver
    Iron Fist
    Jessica Jones
    Eric Savin (Extremis Soldier)
    Ellen Brandt (Extremis Soldier)
    Emil Blonsky (Super Soldier)
    Madame Gao
    Mr. Hyde
    Slingshot
    Aida
    Raina
    Deathlok
    The Patriot
    Carl Creed the Absorbing Man
    Lorelei
    Nebula
    Miek
    Ant Man
    Yellow Jacket
    Proxima Midnight
    Erik Killmonger
    Ulysses Klaue

    Street Tier (non super human, agent level)
    Daredevil
    Elektra
    Black Widow
    Okoye
    Rocket Racoon
    Hawkeye
    Nick Fury
    Punisher
    Coleen Wing
    Batroc the Leaper
    Shocker
    Kingpin
    Nobu
    Diamondback
    Bakuto
    Peggy Carter
    Sharon Carter Agent 13
    Dum Dum Dugan
    Mocking Bird
    Maria Hill
    Misty Knight
    The Punisher
    Phil Coulson
    Zemo
    Jig Saw
    M'Baku
    Shuri
     
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  2. Stormborn

    Stormborn Friendly Neighbourhood Thunder God

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    First things first, let's sort out who's fighting.

    Is this Thor at his peak (Infinity War Thor with Stormbreaker) or is it the fat, alcoholic Thor from Endgame?

    Carol didn't really get any game changing feats in Endgame so I still think Thor at his peak would take her. He's more skilled, comparably strong, his reflexes are just as fast (her fight vs Thanos proves she's not a speedster in combat), he has the durability to tank her attacks and he has lightning/Stormbreaker to put her down with.

    On the other hand Fat Thor would be curbstomped by her. That dude was a shadow of his former self.
     
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  3. jolldan

    jolldan Registered

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    Yeah I would like clarification on what version of Thor is it also
     
  4. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan SHHFFL 2014 Champion

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    Doesn't matter which Thor to me, Captain Marvel wins. Thor got thrashed by Thanos is multiple fights, even if one of them was off-screen. I think Thor's power set has been overrated by us because he got one shot in on Thanos, albeit a near fatal one. But had that been a proper fight, I think Thanos trashes him easily. Carol on the other hand showed me that without the gauntlet, she may have flat out beat him. Something Thor just didn't show me.

    Carol wins.
     
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  5. Stormborn

    Stormborn Friendly Neighbourhood Thunder God

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    For me, it completely depends on which versions of Thor, Carol and Thanos we're talking about:

    1) Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet
    2/3) Infinity War Thor with Stormbreaker >= Thanos with the Power Stone
    4) Thanos with his Endgame Sword
    5) Carol
    6/7) Unarmed Thanos >= Ragnarok Thor
    8) Classic MCU Thor with Mjolnir
    9) Hulk
    10) Fat Thor from Endgame
    11) Sakaar Thor (no lightning)
    12) Carol with the Kree power inhibitor
     
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  6. THORin

    THORin Farewell to Agents of SHIELD...

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    Agreed.
     
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    Endgame Thor want good as he was in iw ... If this is abt current Thor then captain marvel or most other superheroes are going to win against him..
     
  8. Stormborn

    Stormborn Friendly Neighbourhood Thunder God

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    Okay, let's compare their records against Thanos.

    Thor:
    • Ragnarok Thor lost to Thanos with the power stone off screen. He then survived torture with the power stone and an Infinity Stone fuelled explosion meant to kill him.
    • Thor at his peak with Stormbreaker ragdolled Thanos with lightning, reacted fast enough to cut through an Infinity Gauntlet beam and buried his axe in Thanos chest.
    • A fat, alcoholic version of Thor who hadn't trained in 5 years wielding Stormbreaker disarmed Thanos wielding a sword that can cut through vibranium, then got overpowered in hand to hand. His strength was close enough to Thanos to resist Thanos pushing Stormbreaker into his chest.
    Carol:
    • Unarmed Thanos grabbed Carol and threw her across the battlefield.
    • She bounced back within seconds and was able to no sell a punch from Thanos and hold the gauntlet open to prevent him from using it.
    • Thanos took the power stone from the gauntlet and one shot KO'd Carol with it
     
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  9. pr0xyt0xin

    pr0xyt0xin Shaper Savant

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    Sorry, but you need multiple entries for Thor much like you'd need for Professor Hulk and Hulkbuster Iron Man.

    I think like 5 but you could probably get away with 3... they are all drastically different power levels.
    Depowered Thor ~ Black Widow
    Mjolnir Thor ~ Malekith with Aether
    Ragnarok Thor ~ Hulk
    Stormbreaker Thor ~ Captain Marvel
    Fat Thor (dual wielding probably) ~ Nanotech Iron Man
     
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  10. BigThor

    BigThor God of Thunder

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    Except Fat Thor one shot Iron Man (accidently) when they were fighting Thanos, so he's still clearly far above him.

    What a suprise.
     
  11. Micromind

    Micromind New World New Rules

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    I'm waiting for @herolee10 to say something about this.
     
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  12. Stormborn

    Stormborn Friendly Neighbourhood Thunder God

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    @BigThor Are you going to clarify which version of Thor is fighting here?
    A lot of us think Thor at his peak would win but you’ve used a picture of Fat Thor and that guy would be curbstomped.

    Yeah, I second that. Infinity War Thor, Ragnarok Thor, classic Thor with Mjolnir and Fat Thor are all at very different levels.

    I'd also give Cap with Mjolnir, Celestial Star Lord and Nanotech Iron Man separate entries from the regular versions of the characters.
     
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    herolee10 No More Miracles

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    Honestly, I would say that Infinity War Thor w/Stormbreaker is on par with Captain Marvel. At the very least, it would be a very close call in determining on who would win in a bout between those two.

    But Endgame Thor against Captain Marvel? He would not last very long.
     
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    With no mentioning of what version we are using im assuming it just both characters in their prime and I still think Infinity War Stormbreaker Thor is a few notches above Carol.
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    Spider-Fan SHHFFL 2014 Champion

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    Okay? Yay for needlessly passive aggressive posts, I guess? I don't see any other reason for that particular reply.
     
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    HammerDown High Tide Or Low Tide

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    Pretty simple in my eyes.

    Prime Thor > Captain Marvel

    (End of Infinity War with Stormbreaker)

    Out of shape Thor < Captain Marvel
    (AEG dual wielding)
     
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    Stormborn Friendly Neighbourhood Thunder God

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    They're definitely comparable in a lot of ways:
    • They both have incredible physical strength (possible advantage for Thor due to more/better feats but we haven't seen an upper limit for Carol yet)
    • They're both skilled fighters with superhuman reactions (advantage for Thor due to more feats/experience and skill with weapons)
    • They're both ridiculously durable against blunt force (advantage for Carol since shrugging off punches from Thanos tops shrugging off punches from Hulk)
    • They're both extremely durable against energy attacks (major advantage for Thor, that "full force of a star" feat was insane)
    • They both have ranged energy attacks (Carol has photon blasts that can tear through kree ships. Thor has his lightning that can tear through armies, stun Hela and ragdoll Thanos.)
    • They both have feats flying through huge enemy spaceships (advantage for Carol since her flight speed is on another level)
    For me, the deciding factor is that Thor has an axe powerful enough to cut through an Infinity Gauntlet beam and one shot Thanos, and Carol is unarmed and has no durability feats against blades.
     
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    If Stormbreaker was able to hit Thanos while opposing the power of all Infinity Stones then I see no reason for it to not hit Carol. Also, Thor was able to tank the power of a star while Carol was put out of commision just with a blast of the Power Stone.
     
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    Spider-Fan SHHFFL 2014 Champion

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    Let's not act like the Power Stone is some small thing. That stone can wipe out planets in a second.
     
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    That blast didn't look like it could destroy a planet.
     
  21. Stormborn

    Stormborn Friendly Neighbourhood Thunder God

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    Sure. And they both have feats taking blasts from it. Carol was KO'd but survived, Thor was tortured with it held to his face and then KO'd by a blast that obliterated his ship. Thor also has feats taking blasts from the reality stone and the full force of a star. The guy's durability against energy attacks is off the charts.
     
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    Well, Earth is still standing, so that one no. But you're going to base the power of the stone's blast on what exactly? When Thanos was barely using it on Thor's head, it was killing him. It seems like you're acting like that was a meager blast, when it was a forceful hit from an object that can destroy planets without trying. Even if that punch operated the stone at 25%, that is 25% of planet destroying force straight onto Carol. I bet that one shots Thor, as well.
     
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    Thanos when he was torturing Thor was not using it nearly as forcefully as that blast he hit Carol was. He was barely using it on Thor, and it was killing him.

    I'm sorry, but acting like being one shot by one of the 6 most powerful objects in the universe is a mark of shame or something is just wrong.
     
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    AVEITWITHJAMON Darksider

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    I’m with Spider-Fan on this one, in Endgame Carol was almost laughing off full on hits from Thanos, something no version of Thor has been able to do.

    At the start of IW, we didn’t see the fight with Thor, but I don’t see Thanos using the power stone on him when he didn’t need it for Hulk.
     
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    Stormborn Friendly Neighbourhood Thunder God

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    Nobody's said anything about a mark of shame. In fact, I actually brought up surviving it as a durability feat for Carol.
    All I've argued is that it's not quite on the same level as Thor's feats against Infinity Stone blasts and a neutron star:
    • surviving repeat hits from the reality stone
    • surviving torture with the power stone held direct to the face
    • surviving a power stone blast large enough to obliterate a ship
    • tanking the full force of a star for 50 seconds whilst holding a gigantic mechanism open.
    • throwing an axe with enough force to cut through a blast from the completed Infinity Gauntlet.
    So now you're downplaying Thor being tortured by having 'one of the six most powerful objects in the universe' blasted point blank at his face for 15 seconds as though it's a mark of shame?
    Seems pretty hypocritical.

    As I've said already, that's a great blunt force durability feat for Carol and better than Thor's feats taking hits from Hulk. I just don't think that's enough to win her the fight when Carol doesn't have any feats hurting someone on Thor's level whereas Thor has lightning and Stormbreaker to put her down with.
     
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