MCU Phase 3: Have it your way

[Dr. Evil]

Me too... but that's a tall order, since a lot of the racial stereotypes of Asians are that they are tech savvy and know martial arts, which is common and desirable for superheroes. Shang Chi's still a good character, and Sunfire is... almost stereotype free. And if they ever bring Jimmy Woo into SHIELD... totally badarse.

Oh... and please don't forget Amadeus Cho. He won't forget you.

And Big Hero 6 is in development, although it's not MCU, it's still pretty awesome if Asian superheroes is what you're looking for.

I'd expect non Asian actors to be cast in the roles, but because it's animated and voice over, there won't be any issues.

As someone who is Asian American, I like that Melinda May is the most significant Asian character in the MCU. She's not the only one, but she is the most prominent. Hogun was sparsely used in Thor 2 (hell he didn't even have a poster of his own) and I don't know if we'll ever see the Howling Commandos again, so I don't know if we'll see the Asian one ever again.

 

[henzINNIT]

So we're thinking 4 slots beside Ant-Man, with Avengers 3 capping it off. Hmm...

Thor will certainly need a third chapter for 2016 to resolve the cliff-hanger from TDW (and provide much needed Loki)

Doctor Strange seems to be next in line for Marvel and could be quite fantastic.

I want to see Marvel tackle Hulk again with Ruffalo as the lead. If Hulk is as memorable in Ultron as he was in Avengers, then the guy deserves his due. You can make a great Hulk movie, so it's time to see one.

Finally, I'd go for another new property for the last, either Black Panther or something based on Black Widow and Hawkeye.

I think Cap 3 could wait until directly after Avengers 3 in a similar fashion to IM3 after the first team-up. Guardians may well warrant a sequel too, but I think it would probably settle toward the back of the pack.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

I wouldn't load Phase 3 with new properties. Two would be ok, but having Ant Man, Dr. Strange and another would seem a bit much. I would stick with the hot commodities and add the two new ones.

Phase 1 had five films before Avengers (Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk, Thor and Captain America)
Phase 2 had four films before AOU (Iron Man 3, Thor TDW, CATWS and Guardians of the Galaxy, one new branch)
Phase 3 should have five films. I'd go Ant Man, Thor 3, Captain America 3, Doctor Strange, Guardians 2. That would make for a nice lead-in to The Infinity Gauntlet.

I would also have Avengers 3 be a two part film. These movies will all but own the world by that time. This would allow you to basically double your box office (if not more) and provide a more satisfying (and longer) conclusion to this amazing saga.

 

[henzINNIT]

I wouldn't load Phase 3 with new properties. Two would be ok, but having Ant Man, Dr. Strange and another would seem a bit much. I would stick with the hot commodities and add the two new ones.

I was thinking maybe 3 entirely new properties was too many, but at the same time, Marvel will need to continue to broaden if they want to get everything on screen; and they're gonna want to spread out their more established series to ensure fans stick with the franchise as a whole.

As long as their contracts are, the cast are still only temporary, and I'm not sure Marvel are going to want to have all their big names out of contract at once when Avengers 3 hits. It would make sense to slow down a little on Thor and Cap and the other phase one names, to extend their presence.

I wonder if Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are destined to appear anywhere beyond Avengers, or whether they even could with the shared contract.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Well its definitely a possibility that we may get up to 3 new properties. Feige already said he wants to do a a sequel and a new face every year. Whether that comes to pass, who knows. My bet would be:

Antman 2015

TIH2 2016
black panther 2016

Cap 3 or Thor 3 2017
doctor strange or inhumans 2017

Avengers 3 2018

Phase 4: Mrs/capt. Marvel 2018

 

[KangConquers]

So we're thinking 4 slots beside Ant-Man, with Avengers 3 capping it off. Hmm...

Thor will certainly need a third chapter for 2016 to resolve the cliff-hanger from TDW (and provide much needed Loki)

Doctor Strange seems to be next in line for Marvel and could be quite fantastic.

I want to see Marvel tackle Hulk again with Ruffalo as the lead. If Hulk is as memorable in Ultron as he was in Avengers, then the guy deserves his due. You can make a great Hulk movie, so it's time to see one.

Finally, I'd go for another new property for the last, either Black Panther or something based on Black Widow and Hawkeye.

I think Cap 3 could wait until directly after Avengers 3 in a similar fashion to IM3 after the first team-up. Guardians may well warrant a sequel too, but I think it would probably settle toward the back of the pack.

I actually think Cap 3 is 100% guaranteed unless something disastrous happens come April. My Dream Phase 3 is in my signature, though I'm expecting 6 films and not 9...

 

[henzINNIT]

I actually think Cap 3 is 100% guaranteed unless something disastrous happens come April.

Oh absolutely. I just think it could probably wait until after phase 3.

 

[Lord]

Would like to see the original Captain Marvel, wasn't he the one who originally defeated Thanos?

 

[KangConquers]

Would like to see the original Captain Marvel, wasn't he the one who originally defeated Thanos?

The problem with a Captain Marvel film is a lot of his "franchise" will be cannibalized to feed the Guardians of the Galaxy. Cosmic Marvel is basically one franchise that has failed to find a hero that could keep it afloat long term. An inordinate amount of shared characters have graced the pages of Adam Warlock, Captain Marvel, Silver Surfer, Nova and Guardians of the Galaxy.

Maybe they'll still do it though, who knows.

 

[chamber-music]

I'd expect non Asian actors to be cast in the roles, but because it's animated and voice over, there won't be any issues.

As someone who is Asian American, I like that Melinda May is the most significant Asian character in the MCU. She's not the only one, but she is the most prominent. Hogun was sparsely used in Thor 2 (hell he didn't even have a poster of his own) and I don't know if we'll ever see the Howling Commandos again, so I don't know if we'll see the Asian one ever again.

The actress who plays Skye on Agents Of Shield is half Chinese.

I think we might see Colleen Wing along side Misty Knight in the Iron Fist show on Netflix.

Good chance of seeing the Ancient one and Wong in Doctor Strange as well. I think Marvel will change them from the more stereotypical portrayals in the comics.

Most of the good Asian Marvel superheroes are in the X-Men franchise.

 

[Dr. Evil]

The actress who plays Skye on Agents Of Shield is half Chinese.

I think we might see Colleen Wing along side Misty Knight in the Iron Fist show on Netflix.

Good chance of seeing the Ancient one and Wong in Doctor Strange as well. I think Marvel will change them from the more stereotypical portrayals in the comics.

Most of the good Asian Marvel superheroes are in the X-Men franchise.

Skye is still annoying to me.

Holding out hope for Shang Chi in the Netflix shows.

 

[DrCosmic]

The problem with a Captain Marvel film is a lot of his "franchise" will be cannibalized to feed the Guardians of the Galaxy. Cosmic Marvel is basically one franchise that has failed to find a hero that could keep it afloat long term. An inordinate amount of shared characters have graced the pages of Adam Warlock, Captain Marvel, Silver Surfer, Nova and Guardians of the Galaxy.

Maybe they'll still do it though, who knows.

This is true. I think it's telling that Carol Marvel is in the GOTG right now in the comics. Having Captain Mar-Vell and Carol as new/suporting cast in a GOTG sequel is probably the most likely way we'll see things shake out. All things considered, that could be kinda awesome.

 

[Hyde]

2015:

Ant-Man - Edgar Wright

2016:

Thor 3 - Francis Lawrence
Doctor Strange - Jack Bender/Fede Alvarez

2017:

Captain America 3 - The Russo Bros
Guardians of the Galaxy: The Annihilation War - James Gunn

2018:

Indestructible Hulk - Gareth Edwards/Paul Greengrass
Inhumans - Neil Marshall

2019:

Marvel's The Avengers: Infinity Gauntlet - Joss Whedon

Updated suggestions:

Thor 3 - Nick Hurran/Francis Lawrence
Doctor Strange - James Wan (2016)

Also scratch Inhumans off the list. I don't think there's going to be room for it amongst all the other movies.

 

[Loki882]

Kevin Feige has been taking up Doctor Strange and Inhumans repeatedly, so they're likely possibilities. I've notice that if he keeps bringing up a specific property over and over (GOTG), then the chances of it being on Marvel's shortlist are very good. Thor 3 is also likely, as is Cap three. I'd prefer to see a Captain Marvel film, both because she's awesome and the lack of female-led superhero films/studios ridiculous paranoia about them is frustrating.

 

[KangConquers]

Kevin Feige has been taking up Doctor Strange and Inhumans repeatedly, so they're likely possibilities. I've notice that if he keeps bringing up a specific property over and over (GOTG), then the chances of it being on Marvel's shortlist are very good. Thor 3 is also likely, as is Cap three. I'd prefer to see a Captain Marvel film, both because she's awesome and the lack of female-led superhero films/studios ridiculous paranoia about them is frustrating.

Captain Marvel has kind of been dodged by Feige, and Joss Whedon doesn't seem particularly fond of the character. I think her chances of getting a solo in Phase 3 are slim at best.

 

[Dr. Evil]

He also says Black Panther is in development. I think the more Vibranium is mentioned in MCU, I think the more likely we'll see him in MCU.

 

[KangConquers]

He also says Black Panther is in development. I think the more Vibranium is mentioned in MCU, I think the more likely we'll see him in MCU.

As well we should. Black Panther is far more deserving of a film and a spot in the MCU than Captain Marvel.

 

[Markyboy00]

I've been reading everyones posts on and off, so I might be repeating some of what others have said..

I personally think Marvel already has an outline of exactly what movies they're going to put out.. And all of them in some way are leading up to an EPIC Avengers3.. The one point I go by is.. Thanos is the ultimate badass... Ironman, Cap, Hulk, Thor, Widow, and Hawkeye wouldn't last 2 seconds against him.. The movies in phase3 have to introduce new Powerful heroes... Here's my feelings on phase3....


Quick overview of phase2

Ironman3
Thor2
Captain America2
GotG1:: (Introduces Ronan, Kree, Inhumans, the Watchers..After battle with the collector, they find Cacoon and it hatches)
Antman1:: (Creates Ultron.. Hints of Original Human Torch)
Avengers AoU:: (Introduces Vision)


Phase3......

Captain America3:: ??

Thor3:: ??

Shield:: (featuring mainly Colston, Hawkeye, Widow & Fury.. Introducing Quasar & Ms.Marvel as shield agents.. Plot: Wikanda in distress, and shield in to save the day.. Introducing Black Panther)

Ironman4:: ??

GotG2:: (Introducing Adam Warlock, Nova.. Battles Thanos and gets wrecked.. Starts making way to earth)

Inhumans:: (Introducing Skrulls, Super Skrull)

Avengers3 pt1:: (Cap, Thor, Ironman, Hulk, Fury, Hawkeye, Widow, Quasar, Ms.Marvel, Vision, Black Panther.. All go up against Thanos and get wrecked)

Avengers3 pt2:: (Inhumans, GotG, Nova, Watchers all join the fight)

 

[Loki882]

As well we should. Black Panther is far more deserving of a film and a spot in the MCU than Captain Marvel.

Why?

 

[DrCosmic]

Why?

Please don't take it as disrespect. Mar-Vell and Carol are both awesome characters who deserve a film above many characters. BP just isn't one of them.

• BP is a classic Avenger. If Vision is in AOU, he'll be the most classic Avenger missing from the MCU.
• BP has a rich unique corner of the Marvel Universe all his own.
• BP has a wider, richer, more developed setting, supporting cast, arsenal and rogues gallery. (Though Cpt. Marvel having Thanos scores him big points on that last bit, Thanos already being everyone elses enemy takes them right back).
• BP has several unique epic stories to adapt.
• BP has several abilities unique to him in the MCU.
• BP is simply more badass.

I love Carol to death, but... Black Panther has a theme song, I'm sorry.

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[Ant-manic]

they should take Captain Marvel more seriously. of all of the marvel females, she'd be the most satisfying to watch; from an action movie perspective. she's a suped up human jet fighter. plus she's not a femme fatale or martial artist; something we've seen plenty of in solo film heroines. there's also the pro-military angle to milk to death. putting Carol on the big screen's a no-brainer.

 

[Ant-manic]

Please don't take it as disrespect. Mar-Vell and Carol are both awesome characters who deserve a film above many characters. BP just isn't one of them.

• BP is a classic Avenger. If Vision is in AOU, he'll be the most classic Avenger missing from the MCU.
• BP has a rich unique corner of the Marvel Universe all his own.
• BP has a wider, richer, more developed setting, supporting cast, arsenal and rogues gallery. (Though Cpt. Marvel having Thanos scores him big points on that last bit, Thanos already being everyone elses enemy takes them right back).
• BP has several unique epic stories to adapt.
• BP has several abilities unique to him in the MCU.
• BP is simply more badass.

I love Carol to death, but... Black Panther has a theme song, I'm sorry.

and you can have Carol dogfighting to Scandal's 'The Warrior' or Kenny Loggins 'Danger Zone.' big deal. t:

 

[DrCosmic]

From what I've read of DeConnick's run they're taking her dead serious, and putting her in the GOTG in the comics is probably a sign of things to come for the MCU, since GOTG is already using up all of Mar-Vell's enemies and setting anyway. I agree seeing some human dog fights could be very satisfying, but beware, since that's pretty much what we see Iron Man do, especially against actual jets in IM1. And the pro-military angle could easily end up being just like Cap's storyline. Creating that uniqueness in the MCU is actually challenging for a largely unique character like BP, but for a character like Carol it may even be impossible, I'm not sure. It certainly isn't easy, and we've definitely tried around here.

And to be honest... I think that Marvel was being ignorant and shortsighted when they decided to make Ms. Marvel their flagship heroine way back in 2006. She, while in need of redemption, does have a largely uninteresting powerset and borrowed set of villains. I know they couldn't use Scarlet Witch because they had her crazy, or Storm because then they'd have to make her an Avenger or something, I guess? But why not the Wasp, that could have been utterly awesome! Or if they just had to go with Carol, why not Binary her out like X-Men did with Phoenix. Why revert her to the most boring version of herself?

While hindsight is 20/20, if the female superhero everyone was demanding was a super cool unique Wasp with two solo series to her name, or Binary-Marvel was headling her own series facing her own beloved villains... I don't think Joss Whedon would have this avoidance of the character, and I think Kevin Feige would be excited to bring a character with their own unique setting into the MCU. I think it'd be her movie we'd be looking forward to in August instead of the GOTG.

 

[Ant-manic]

From what I've read of DeConnick's run they're taking her dead serious, and putting her in the GOTG in the comics is probably a sign of things to come for the MCU, since GOTG is already using up all of Mar-Vell's enemies and setting anyway. I agree seeing some human dog fights could be very satisfying, but beware, since that's pretty much what we see Iron Man do, especially against actual jets in IM1. And the pro-military angle could easily end up being just like Cap's storyline. Creating that uniqueness in the MCU is actually challenging for a largely unique character like BP, but for a character like Carol it may even be impossible, I'm not sure. It certainly isn't easy, and we've definitely tried around here.

And to be honest... I think that Marvel was being ignorant and shortsighted when they decided to make Ms. Marvel their flagship heroine way back in 2006. She, while in need of redemption, does have a largely uninteresting powerset and borrowed set of villains. I know they couldn't use Scarlet Witch because they had her crazy, or Storm because then they'd have to make her an Avenger or something, I guess? But why not the Wasp, that could have been utterly awesome! Or if they just had to go with Carol, why not Binary her out like X-Men did with Phoenix. Why revert her to the most boring version of herself?

because it's the most relateable, movie-adaptable, and marketable. 'Binary' isn't as iconic-sounding as 'Captain Marvel.' and the synergy of Captain America and Iron Man works in her favor, in my opinion. her being female is what makes her unique to the movie-going audience. you see her and you immediately wonder if she could take Iron Man in a fight. doesn't work for Janet because she's the byproduct of another title character. and her powers are a weaker version of Carol's (flight, energy blasts, enhanced strength).

Carol's story is topical. her father didn't think the military was any place for women. she's both an overachiever and an underdog. and they've been building up her rogues gallery. Yon-Rogg, the kree's lunatic legion, and Doomsday Man all would make decent villains. i'd have to check the rights on Deathbird. for contrast, Janet has whirlwind; borrowed from Hank Pym.

 

[KangConquers]

Please don't take it as disrespect. Mar-Vell and Carol are both awesome characters who deserve a film above many characters. BP just isn't one of them.

• BP is a classic Avenger. If Vision is in AOU, he'll be the most classic Avenger missing from the MCU.
• BP has a rich unique corner of the Marvel Universe all his own.
• BP has a wider, richer, more developed setting, supporting cast, arsenal and rogues gallery. (Though Cpt. Marvel having Thanos scores him big points on that last bit, Thanos already being everyone elses enemy takes them right back).
• BP has several unique epic stories to adapt.
• BP has several abilities unique to him in the MCU.
• BP is simply more badass.

I love Carol to death, but... Black Panther has a theme song, I'm sorry.

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This.

Not every character is made to carry a movie.

Marvel has always been kind of weak in the female in a leading role department. All of the true A-list marvel females are team heroes like Invisible Woman, Jean Grey and Storm.